Converting bb guns to real ones?

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i never have heard of this being done, heres a link to the website i read it on
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ist-gunman--wearing-Barack-Obama-T-shirt.html

To the untrained eye, ball-bearing guns like the one used in the attack look every bit like a real firearm.
The potentially lethal weapons are often converted by criminals to fire real bullets, and can be bought easily in high-street shops and on websites.
 
yeah, i thought so. once again there goes the crazy anti's the website is coming out of britan,now it looks like they are trying to make bb guns look dangerous
 
the chances of them being converted to fire real bullets is very low to impossible. the barrel, bolt and alot of other parts cant handle the pressure of a real bullet.
once upon a time daisy did make a gun. it was a caseless 22 and they did not have a license to make firearms so ATF stomped on them. it is not easy to find then these days as they were forced to stop selling them. they worked by using the effect of air heating when being compressed to ignite the powder. there was only powder and lead no primer or brass.
this thing about converting BB guns to real firearms is a lie to give the anti-gun British a reason for banning BB guns.
 
BB guns can't feasibly be converted, but some of the "pressurized cartridge" types can be, and were found often enough that the UK prohibited them entirely. These used life-size cartridges that could be pressurized from a scuba tank, then loaded with a .22 pellet, thereby avoiding the prohibition on handguns, since they were under the energy cut-off that they used to define a "firearm"; what the bad guys naturally did was to make adaptors that let them shoot .22 LR out of those very same air guns. So, once again, in the name of "public safety", everyone gets their freedoms taken away.
 
the chances of them being converted to fire real bullets is very low to impossible. the barrel, bolt and alot of other parts cant handle the pressure of a real bullet.
I find it rather surprising that you think the above. I have seen 'guns' made out of telescoping car radio antenae and wood blocks, a bit of tape, a rubber band and a nail. A single shot, but nonetheless a working firearm that could be used again and again. I would think it quite easy to convert some pellet guns, if not BB guns, to fire a .22LR round. Again it would be a single shot firearm, but my bet is it would be usable again and again without having any noticebale effects from pressure until many rounds had been fired.

All the best,
Glenn B
 
One could stick a 22 LR in a .22 cal pelet gun an potentially fire it, but it would seem about as dangerous for the shooter as the shootee.

from the article...

The potentially lethal weapons are often converted by criminals to fire real bullets, and can be bought easily in high-street shops and on websites.

I would like see one of these websites that offers the conversion kits. In all my years of surfin the gun sites, never heard or seen this. So I don't think that 'often' would really apply.
 
Actualy there is a basis to this now intentional misinformation.

There was a system called the Brocock Air Cartridge. It was essentialy compressed air combined with a pellet into what looks a lot like a firearm cartridge.
A truly ingenious design.
You used a pump to pressurize a few cartridges ahead of time, combined a pellet, and essentialy had an airgun cartridge that looked very much like firearm ammunition.
When you fired the gun it just released the energy stored in the cartridge rather than from an air reservoir like most airguns.
So they actualy struck a valve on the back of the compressed air cartridge with a firing pin releasing the air, and then ejected the spent air cartridge much like a firearm does.

So it was basicly a firearm that operated like many real handguns, but used ammunition cartridges that were filled with compressed air instead of gunpowder. There was a little more to the design, but the result is actual firearms and these airguns operated almost the same. They chambered a round and struck the back of them.

Unfortunately because it was introduced in a nation that banned handguns (England) some criminals were willing to go through the effort to convert such firearms to fire puny actual firearm calibers. The airguns were not designed for the high pressures of most firearm cartridges, but they could effectively fire some minor calibers in converted airguns.

This resulted in the clever design being banned in England, the nation the company was based in.

Here is a picture of such an airgun:
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Since then antis in such nations have made the case that all bb guns are readily converted, which is far from the truth. They know many people will recall that really being done, and be misinformed to believe it is the case once again. Smoke and mirrors to achieve a desired result.

It is of course possible to use the barrel to essentialy make a zip gun from any bb gun that fires once if a way to ignite the round is setup. Of course a person could just as easily use any other metal cylinder or pipe to accomplish the same thing.
 
The article says that the gun was shooting ball bearings, which really wouldn't require any modification of a BB gun, just some ball bearings that were the proper size. OR, they were just BB's, and the idjits didn't know the difference. In some places BB guns are treated the same as real firearms. What part of "fire" do they not understand? :evil:
 
Ball Bearings

Hmmm.

Anyone know what the letters "BB" stand for?

I never really thought about it before.

Anyone?

Bueller?
 
When I was thirteen I taped a .380 round to the barrel of a daisy spring action pistol. Loaded a BB in it pulled the trigger and yes indeed the BB hit the primer and caused the .380 round to fire. Did it work, yes was it smart or safe, NO.
 
Anyone know what the letters "BB" stand for?

it's bird shot gauge. 'B' shot is .17 caliber, 'BB' is .18 caliber, and 'BBB' is .19 caliber... all the way up to 'F' at .22 caliber.

Ramone.
 
Yes BB was originaly a shot caliber.
However for marketing purposes it was changed to a different caliber so that daisy could be the only manufacturer of ammunition for thier airguns and people would not just buy shotgun shot. They also began to use steel shot because they noticed people that were using cheap steel ball bearings were getting high velocities.

So BB airgun caliber is actualy about .173 ammo or slightly below and .177 bore while true BB shot caliber is .18

Originaly it really was BB caliber. So that is where the name comes from.
 
There needs to be more rules and restrictions governing the use and sale of those powerful, dangerous air rifles.. Do it for the children!

....knock an eye out with those things!
 
Who here also thinks this was just a normal CO2 air pistol?
+1. I'm fairly certain this was a run-of-the-mill BB gun and the newswriter is just hyperventilating.

This is from Britain, you realize. Home of the people who want to ban 'pointy' knives because they're too dangerous, as well as pad lampposts so people text-messaging while walking (and not paying attention to the world around them) won't hurt themselves. Coming soon to a sheep farm near you!

-- Sam
 
If we just rounded up and executed everyone capable of using a weapon of any kind, we would have peace in the world. At least that seems to be the idea.

Jim
 
Oh man
as well as pad lampposts so people text-messaging while walking (and not paying attention to the world around them) won't hurt themselves.
you made my night with that link LMAO.

Back on topic,
It would be easier to make a zip gun from scratch.
 
A .bb gun IS a "real" gun.

My Daisy pumps up to a pretty good pressure that can obliterate a rat skull (when we lived next to a chicken farm and would get rats in the house I'd shoot the ones the traps didn't kill straight off). Its not exactly a "one shot stop", but it would put a hole into you.

And I definitely wouldn't want to be shot by the match-grade pellet rifles the kids use on the air rifle team.
 
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