FedEx screws up ammo shipment!

[nelson133]

I did package delivery for 23 years, just to establish that I have experience at it. There is no excuse for forging a signature. Everybody makes mistakes and mis-deliveries will happen, forging a signature isn't an accident.
I'm real tired of people whining about the requirements of their job. If you took the job, do it as specified. If you can't or won't, find something else to do.

 

[N003k]

The worst I have had happen was UPS left about 500 rounds of .308 sitting out exposed on my FRONT porch, right underneath a sign that said to deliver all packages to the REAR of the building and listed who lived on each floor (3 Family Apartment, we all know eachother well enough that it wouldn't have even mattered if they delivered it to the wrong floor) No complaint was filed about it or anything, but then the NEXT week I see the UPS truck drive right by my house at around 2pm, check the tracking information a few times, and about an hour later it's listed as 'Delivery Failed' and had a note saying the driver couldn't find WHICH apartment to deliver to, nevermind the building, just which FLOOR.

Worst part is, they've left TONS of packages just sitting on the enclosed back porch, which we've never complained about, THEN they started screwing around.

 

[dirtyjim]

i had fed ex throw a rifle barrel over my fence once & it rolled under a shrub. the gate was open & i was home at the time of delivery. i checked the tracking # later that night & it showed it was delived. i found it about an hour later with a flashlight.
i know in the houston area fed ex home delivery uses a digital camera thats built into their clipboard to take a picture of who the package is delivered to if its sent signature required

 

[Zach S]

I hate FedEx. I used to put "The blue house at the end of the road on the right" in the "address, line two" of order forms and I'd still have to knock on doors to get my stuff. If the vendor deals with FedEx exclusively, I don't deal with them. I'd rather pay more to get it from another vendor than have a few hundred bucks worth of my stuff on someone else's porch.

Never had a problem with UPS.

 

[Guns and more]

What is Fedex suppose to do when they can not obtain a signature??? I believe they put it back on the truck. The Driver forged the customers signature and then left the package in the front yard. 100% Fedex drivers fault!!! The package should have never been there for the dog to chew. What is so hard to understand about that?

If the package was worth all this discussion (three pages of passionate discourse), then maybe on the day you are expecting a package that you know you have to sign for, you could leave the dog in the back yard. "Oh, no, my doggy must have access to the deliveryman."
I'm not sure the driver signing constitutes "forgery" since he had no monetary gain. Maybe that trip to your house took him ten minutes out of his way and he made a bad decision. Have you been harmed? Yes, traumatized, of course.
Yeah, he should get life in prison.

What is it with dog owners? Let it go!

 

[woad_yurt]

I vote dog: 50% wrong, Homeowner: 25% wrong, Fed-Ex: 25% wrong. Since the homeowner owns the dog and let him out, knowing he ate cardboard, that makes him 75% wrong.

Wow. To the above I say "Nope."

Some folks are in for a rude awakening if they ever have to go to court for these types of incidents. If someone initially does what they should not have done and bad events stem from that action, the liability is assigned to the person who first did the incorrect thing. Just watch Judge Judy or The People's Court for an hour.

If the guy's dog ate some of the ammo and incurred giant vet bills as a result of the carrier's negligence (delivery without getting a signature when the signature was required,) the carrier would be liable. "Would any of this have happened had you done your job correctly? Better yet, could it have happened at all had you done what you were paid to do?"

Now, if the dog owner had a package delivered without requiring a signature, the dog owner would definitely be liable since he did already know about the dog's proclivity for chewing cardboard. Even if his dog chowed down on cardboard for the very first time, the dog's owner would be liable. But, that's definitely not the case here.

People should just do their job correctly. Period.

 

[Guns and more]

the liability is assigned to the person who first did the incorrect thing. Just watch Judge Judy or The People's Court for an hour.

I knew it! You all get your legal advice from Judge Judy. Boy, are you in for a surprise if you ever visit the "real" court system.
If I were the judge in this case I'd throw it out of court. "Quit wasting the court's time." Rightfully so.
Of course, I'm right! ;-)

 

[tpaw]

Forgery is a criminal offense.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

Well, I am not specifically picking on Fed ex. But the local Fed Ex in Conway which serves my area can NEVER find me. So I just drive to the Conway Distribution and retrive said package from thier "Problem rack" AFTER the tracking indicates the package is logged in. I try to do it the afternoon before they load the trucks next pre-sunrise; so I can be sure to capture my package.

What good is fex ex when they can ship the world over but cannot make the last 4 counties to my stinking road and I have to go get it myself.

UPS does a MUCH better job, HOWEVER... if the driver was new I end up going to the Searcy distribution to get said package. The Boss that runs that place sees me coming to the door, she starts hollering prior to my entry at her drivers.

To UPS's credit, I have not had to go back. Count me in as a satisfied customer.

 

[rscalzo]

Fed Ex driver FORGED your signature

If there was a monitary benefit to the driver maybe. But this was done simply to speed up his deliveries. no one is going to bother filing a criminal charge.

Dogs never bothered me in all my years on the street. I'd play with them more often than not. Once I made the mistake of playing with an Old English than came into out hdqts. White hair all over a blue unifor4m. Spend an hour with one of those sticky rollers.

Not getting a signature after a few attempts will result in the package sent back to the sender. Requiring a signature means someone better be home to accept it.

 

[stonecoldy]

The driver was wrong to leave the package if "signature required", period. That should be enough to get someone fired and depending on the package contents, worse.
I have never had a package left if no one was at home per Fedex delivery if signature was required, and could either pick it up at the main delivery depot if within Fedex working hours, or try to be available when they attempt re-delivery on the following day. Sometimes calling (if you have the tracking number) they will stop back by.
Airborne Express was terrible, much better after DHL took over them (until they stopped domestic delivery and laid off 8000 personnel in Wilmington, Ohio).
BTW, I have plenty of packages delivered on weekends (Saturdays) and they don't waste time if you don't answer the door promptly, gone pretty quick.
I also like dogs but was bit by enough delivering newspapers as a teenager that I wouldn't waste my time trying to deliver a package if one was loose in someone's front yard. Bad choice.

Consider insuring your packages. Otherwise they (Fedex) are only responsible up to $100 for replacement value. Fedex can give you rates (1-800-GOFEDEX or 1-800-463-3339). Get after them ASAP if you have a damaged package, otherwise they'll leave it up to you and your supplier to sort out.
I have plenty of bad stories, worst of which involved two coolers of environmental samples worth $30,000 (cost to repeat test project), which were lost in transit and never found. Guy who shipped them had insured them but Fedex said they would only cover the cost of analysis, not the labor to collect them again. So we lost $27,000 and had to repeat the effort on our dime.
I believe they have a big graveyard down in Memphis if I understood them correctly full of lost packages where packages with labels missing are sent. Probably what happened to mine.

 

[Guns and more]

Forgery is a criminal offense.

So answer me this, F. Lee Tepaw.

If I'm signing autographs for my adoring fans, and one time I sign your name for a fan, have I committed a criminal offense?

My mother-in-law was a big Burt Reynolds fan. When he owned the Tampa team, I promised I would get his autograph. I couldn't, so I signed a program with his name. Did I commit a criminal offense?

 

[GlowinPontiac]

The FEDEX truck (large box truck not residential delivery truck) makes daily stops at my work. Nearly half of the boxes are smashed with most of the contents gone or the box is mummified in clear packing tape that takes ages to cut through to find out that they wrapped up the empty box after they smashed it and lost its contents. Ive seen trucks with bowling ball sized holes in the roof or sides drop off a full load of power tools that are literally dripping water out of their boxes because it is raining. They literally throw the boxes off onto the loading dock and then leave before we can even inspect them. Forget filing a claim they dont want to hear it and claim that the driver says he dropped the load in great condition! UPS does a much better job but still gives us crushed boxes but at least when a box bursts and spills its contents UPS is nice enough to pick up all the loose pieces and put them all into a bag so we at least get them. Somewhere at a fedex warehouse they are sitting on a ENORMOUS pile of PVC and copper pipe fittings that we got the empty boxes from. Not surprisingly the copper fitting boxes started coming in in much better shape and with all their contents as the price of scrap copper dropped down........No idea what they do with the PVC stuff as it is virtually worthless as scrap.......

 

[runrabbitrun]

If you paid for signature required, you should of got it.
But I'd suggest in the future, make sure someone is home, put the dog away
or have the package shipped to your work place or one of those drop offs as suggested.

 

[Deanimator]

If I'm signing autographs for my adoring fans, and one time I sign your name for a fan, have I committed a criminal offense?

Ask Clifford Irving...

 

[Jbabbler]

Our local mail carrier backed down my driveway, through the flower garden and over a stacked stone wall. Her front tire got hung on the wall so she dropped it in 4-wheel drive and pulled the wall over then drove away. I asked her about it the next day and she said "I did that?" The same lady leaves packages at my side-door in the rain and constantly delivers other people's packages to my house.

 

[Guns and more]

Ask Clifford Irving...

There was financial gain there. Don't you see the difference?

What financial gain did the Fed-Ex delivery man have because he signed your name? You are making my point for me.

Let it go.
Here's the solution.................Start your own delivery company where millions of packages are delivered every day and nothing goes wrong, and put UPS and FED-EX out of business! (and do it cheaper, the world will beat a path to your door.)

 

[Deanimator]

There was financial gain there. Don't you see the difference?

What financial gain did the Fed-Ex delivery man have because he signed your name? You are making my point for me.

Let it go.
Here's the solution.................Start your own delivery company where millions of packages are delivered every day and nothing goes wrong, and put UPS and FED-EX out of business! (and do it cheaper, the world will beat a path to your door.)

You had previously changed the subject FROM Fedex. You're making MY point for ME.

If that driver signs somebody else's signature without their knowledge or permission, he OWNS that shipment, come hell or high water. If it were a gun returned from the factory for repair and it was stolen and used in a crime, HE is liable.

If you can't deliver, DON'T. It doesn't get simpler than that. All of the excuses and blaming of the victim in the world won't change that.

 

[Hikingman]

Keep in mind that one thing Fedex can do to Ya is...shipper often checks 'no signature required' and the driver may REQUIRE it at their discretion.:banghead:

 

[Enginetech88]

WOW!!!

This whole thread has gone to hell. How can anyone blame the dog? Think this.... The owner knew he has a dog that ate boxes. So he made sure the packaged got signed for, that way it could be put away where fido couldnt get it. Nooones fault but the Fedex drivers. Yes he may get in trouble for not making the delivery the first time. But guess what, thats not my problem. He knows what his job is, if he doesnt want to do it proerly get a new job. If there was a dog in the yard, I might not have entered either. But then someone should contact the person thats getting the delivery. It only takes a minute to type in an address and get the persons phone number. The local post office does it all the time. I know these guys want to get home. I work for a trucking company and deal with guys over the road that want to get home right now. I have compassion for these guys and the fedex guys. But guess what, If you have to wait this is the job you chose. I cant help that. Sorry!!

 

[Guns and more]

This whole thread has gone to hell.

True. So why am I bothering?

How can anyone blame the dog?

Because if the dog weren't there, the package would have been delivered.

But then someone should contact the person thats getting the delivery. It only takes a minute to type in an address and get the persons phone number.

Type it into what? Call on what? You must be kidding, UPS has it down to how many SECONDS it takes the driver to start the truck.

The owner knew he has a dog that ate boxes.

So he left him in the yard when he was expecting a package? How smart was that?

I quit. This has been fun, but I've hit a dog lovers wall. I'm glad I don't deliver packages.

 

[brj3car]

People are human and mistakes happen. Fedex and UPS drivers are under intense pressure to meet established numbers and goals. Any package not delivered today will have to be added to tomorrows route and reattempted again.

Forget the dog, the ammo, and the OP not being home. Signing a recipients name for a signature required package is known as falsification and is grounds for disciplinary action up to and including termination...period. That is Fedex policy, not an opinion.

 

[PALMERJ]

I'm sittin in my shop downstairs reading this thread and the door bell rang. Yes I was expecting a package. I ran from my basement to the front door and when I opened the door the UPS driver was pullin away, Man they are fast it took me less then 10 seconds to open the door. At least he left the package now its time to go to work?

Sorry this really didnt have anything to do with your thread. Other then the driver should not have forged the signature and kept the package and tried the next day.

Jon

 

[Flyboy]

I'm having trouble believing that anybody here is defending the FedEx agent for fraudulently claiming that the OP was present and personally accepted the delivery (which is what falsifying the signature would be).

When this thread dies, remind me to make a list of people with whom never to sign a contract.

 

[JeffDilla]

Guns and more: Read post #46. Straight Shooter said that the Fed Ex man told him he knocked on the door and no one answered so he thought it would be safe to leave the package. The FedEx man said nothing about the dog. I don't know how you can say

Because if the dog weren't there, the package would have been delivered.

It appears that's not really an issue.

What's the point of FedEx even offering the "signature required" service if they don't uphold it. Is it really too much to ask?