Foxnews Alert: Gunman on VA Tech campus

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So do we know what type of weapon it was? Shotgun?
there's a cellphone video at cnn.com. It sounds like rifle fire.
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The talking male mannequin on MSNBC just said that it must've been an
"automatic weapon"......the dr's aren't even done closing the wounds yet
and the the usual myths and BS politics are coming into play.
 
Any bets on how long it will be for Pelosi and company to call for gun control legislation today?

John
 
I work on a college campus and have a CWP, but the LAW prevents me from defending myself and those around me!
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Same :(

My new employer also prohibits firearms on all company property. What a world...
 
Has anyone confirmed if VCU is a victim disarmament zone? If so, the first VPC spokemouth to run for a microphone needs a beat down...
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I think practically ALL university campuses are gun-free zones.


John
 
Derek

Absolutely true. Several well-placed charges of nitro, or other explosive, could well have been much more devestating.

Hard to believe that college is stressful enough to get someone to snap like that.
 
Just 'cause it's legal don't make it right, and just 'cause it's illegal don't make it wrong. Unless there's a metal detector around, I'm packin'.

Biker
 
dammit, msnbc has a guy talking about weapons, he's saying "even on the internet you can order components of weapons and put them together. So it's not even that difficult to get that type of weapon." The guy is going on about m-16s and stuff. From the talking points it sounds like he's trying to drum up support to ban semi-autos.
 
"Wonder if the perpetrator was from Indonesia or the Philipines, or had traveled there."

I wouldn't be surprised, given the very large number of international students at Tech. John
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"Tech's international population, including 2,000 students representing more than 110 countries, contributes a unique vibrancy to the cultural climate of the campus and the surrounding community." - Tech site
 
Shooters name appairently is William Morva an asian looking young man .
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This must be a mistake, a case of crossed wires, or a huge coincidence. William Morva is the name of a white male prison escapee who killed a deputy near the VT campus last year.

Unbelievable, the reported death toll. I graduated not too long back (from NCSU, not from VT), but to think that these were fellow engineering students, and thinking back to just how disarmed and helpless the students are on campus, is just chilling.
 
Exaclty, Biker. My sentiments exactly. Look out for yourself. Keep packing. I'm not going to be wiped out by some stupid fing idiot. Time to go buy an AK and some more ammo, cause the next ban will soon arrive.
 
They JUST shot down a bill that would have allowed concealed carry at V. tech.
A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.
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http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658
 
I feel so bad for the victims here...

But we gotta be active with our congresscritters as a response to this.

Everyone, HAND WRITE your critter and tell them to ban victim disarmament zones!
 
About CCW on VT Campus. According to packing.org:
*Private property when prohibited by the owner of the property, or where posted as prohibited. Violation is a trespass charge and not a firearms violation
*School property/school functions unless gun is unloaded, in an enclosed container (but NOT in the glove box or console) and in the vehicle. A car's trunk is considered an enclosed container. However, a concealed handgun permit holder can have a loaded, concealed handgun in the vehicle while in the school parking lot, traffic circle, etc. The concealed handgun and the permit holder must stay in the vehicle. Firearms are not banned from property open to the public where a school function is being held unless that property is being used exclusively for the school function. Violation of this statute is a felony.

Those are the two sections that directly pertain to schools, I am not sure if a University counts as a school. They do specifically prohibit carry at VCU in the law. Also most (if not all) schools prohibits weapons on campus in their student handbooks, and a student carrying would likely be expelled (most undergrads are underage for carrying also), and staff would likely be fired.
 
Absolutely true. Several well-placed charges of nitro, or other explosive, could well have been much more devestating.

Hard to believe that college is stressful enough to get someone to snap like that.
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I don't think we have ANY confirmation that the gunman is, in fact, a student.

I am not trying to encourage speculation, but couldn't this be a terrorist attack?

There have been at least two bomb threats and now this.

The bomb threats were called into an engineering building.


As it is, I wager it's a student. The treats were called into an engineering building, and the attack seemed to be towards that. Disgruntled student?


John
 
Fox is saying that students identified "bandoliers of ammo" and rifle bandoliers are pretty much useless, so I'm thinking he had a 12ga. pump, and a 9mm pistol like a glock or taurus pt-92.

At least 43 hits (21 dead, 22 wounded), I'm thinking this guy fired a whole lot of rounds.

This is a terrible situation, and I expect we'll see something like HR1022 get some more backing.
 
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