Got in a wreck today

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Me and the wife are OK, got tweaked necks and a scraped and slightly dented car and a court date. It was a pretty goof wreck. 5 or more vehicles involved, 2 people hauled off in ambulances and the West bound of a major interstate closed for an hour. I got rear-ended by a tailgater. The tailgater whipped right after she hit me taking the drivers door off of a pickup and hospitalizing the driver.

What do guns have to do with this? I have a CCW and there was a gun in the car. It was in the glove-box. I know damned well they ran my license and they turned that up but they never asked. The officer(s) (state) were professional and polite. On-Star was VERY helpful to my wife. As soon as we were hit, I hit the button and had her talk to them as I jumped out of the car to check on the girl stumbling out of the car behind me (she was the other person who took an ambulance ride).

Do NOT slow down to get someone off your ass. Speed up, even if ya have to do 100mph to get out of their way. If they are stupid enough to tailgate you, they are stupid enough to take out you and several others as well.
 
If you want this thread to stay open you need to talk about the gun in the car and how it was secured or otherwise taken care of.

Jeff
 
What do guns have to do with this? I have a CCW and there was a gun in the car. It was in the glove-box.
I know damned well they ran my license and they turned that up but they never asked
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. The officer(s) (state) were professional and polite.
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So, did the subject of guns ever come up or was it a non-issue?

How do you know they turned it up? Were you in a car licensed to your wife? Is she licensed for CCW? Perhaps her plates were run.
 
I worried about it. I thought back to the threads about what happens if you have to go to the hospital. In the end, I left it loaded and untouched in the glove box. The car was drivable and my wife and I decided we were not hurt bad enough to go to the hospital. A lot goes through your head sitting there waiting for the police to show up. Then after they take your info and initial statement, you sit there another hour worrying about yourselves, the others, your insurance and if the police are going to be a pain about the gun or not. I'm glad to report that it was a non-issue. If that rates thread closure, so be it. Hat's off to the VA State Police.
 
herohog,
As long as we talk about the gun, options to take care of it if the car wasn't drivable etc...the thread is on topic. And it's a good discussion to have.

Jeff
 
So, what does the accident have to do with the weapon in the glovebox? Was your ability to reach the weapon compromised by the collision? Was it secure after the collision?
 
options to take care of it if the car wasn't drivable
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That brings up a good point. What would I say? As the tow truck arrives, "Excuse me, there are a few things I would like to retrieve from the vehicle." It is a legitimate request. BUT, supposing the gun issue was never brought up, have you ever pulled a decent sized handgun (let's say a full sized 1911 or heck even a Glock 19) out of the car? If you have two sections of newspaper, its not too hard. But if you have an audience, it could arouse suspicion. Unless, you pull the officer aside and explain things first.
 
It was a C9 Hi-Point (my glove box gun) and I had nothing in the car I could hide it in. If my wife had her purse I would have put it in there and carried it (she has no permit herself yet). If they had to take me or the car, I would be S.O.L. as they would have to handle my loaded pistol at some point. I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a small cloth hand bag of some sort under the seat should I ever (ged, I hope not) be in this position again.
 
In my opinion the weapon should have been secured. I hold a carry license; the fact that others saw the weapon momentarily as I removed it from the vehicle would be of no concern to me.

I prefer this outcome to allowing others to transport the weapon away from my position and out of my control. An inherent corollary to the right to Carry is the assumption that the licensee will keep the weapon Secure.
 
Sorry to hear about the wreck and glad to hear your all doing ok but I am also sorry to hear you have on-star. I don't doubt that it serves a purpose but I just do not trust it one bit.

I figure with all the things they have going today to track folks, the vehicle should be one safe place as far as how your driving when and where you stop and thing like that. Couple on star with the black box in your vehicle and they know every single move your making in your day to day life. and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't record everything you say in the vehicle even though they say they do not.

I figure if they can do a remote check on your vehicles engine and other major parts, whats to stop them from killing your engine and leaving you stranded in the middle of nowhere if it gets to the point where they start looking for the law abiding ccw holders.

I know that was a little off track but I just had to state it.
 
In 2005 my car was totally wrecked by a woman who ran a red light. My back was hurt. I told the ambulance driver about the pistol in the car. With me strapped to a backboard on the gurney in a position to watch him, he retrieved the pistol, unloaded it safely in front of me, put the pistol and magazine in a drawstring bag, and placed in my hand. He then advised me NEVER to let go of the bag in the hospital, under any circumstances. I held it for 4 hours in the trauma center until my friends arrived and took care of it.
 
In this case it was a non-issue. If my car had to be towed, I would have preferred to discretely carry it, otherwise, I would clear it and carry it openly in my pocket. If I was hospitalized, I would like to have cleared it, bagged it and had the wife take it. If we were BOTH hospitalized, well, I am then at the mercy of the officers I guess.
 
Do NOT slow down to get someone off your ass. Speed up, even if ya have to do 100mph to get out of their way. If they are stupid enough to tailgate you, they are stupid enough to take out you and several others as well.
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have fun explaining that to the police when you are pulled over for speeding. best thing to do when tailgated is to find a safe spot and pull over and let them pass.
 
Last wreck I was involved in, had to have car towed. We stood around waiting on tow and someone to pick us up...all the time, chatting with the motorcycle cop. When our ride arrived, I started unloading the car while the cop watched. I just picked up my pistol and tucked it under my armpit to hold it while grabbing other items, then carried it to the other car. He watched and never said a word. I even hesitated right in front of him as I was talking to my friend to see it he would question me...not a word. I don't have a carry permit, but I also wasn't doing anything illegal...just taking my personal possessions out of my wrecked car in order to take them with me. I don't think seeing citizens with guns is much of a surprise to LE.
 
I got hit two months ago and have not been able to shoot since then due to my hands tingling from a neck injury (lower back was hurt too). I should have taken the trip in the ambulance, but I did not because I has a rifle in the car. My wife came to pick me up and clean out the car before it was towed (totaled). There have been some threads here in the past where EMTs have shared what they do with the firearms. I would strongly suggest taking the ambulance ride if you are not sure. The gun will be OK. It may take some time to get it back, but you need to come first.

- Sig
 
"OnStar, how may I help you?"

"Yes, I've just been involved in an attempted carjacking!"

"I'm calling the police, hold on."

"You might want to tell them to send an ambulance too."

"Are you injured?"

"No, but I shot the carjacker several times?"

OK, what do you think OnStar will say next?
 
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Several years ago, a friend of mine was in a wreck. CCW with gun in glove compartment. The truck was not drivable, and he took the ambulance ride to the hospital. He informed the Virginia State Trooper about the gun and asked him to secure it for him. The trooper tagged it and took it to headquarters. After getting checked out and leaving the hospital, he went by the station, showed his ID, picked up his gun and went home.

Oakville Shooter
 
I keep a walmart bag under my seat just in case I have to handle my gun in a situation as this. I have a ccw, but sometimes I do not want anyone to see the gun.
 
Quote: "So, supposing that your car had been totaled and had to be towed. What then?"

??? Who was this question for? In most of the recent posts the car was towed.
 
I keep a walmart bag under my seat just in case I have to handle my gun in a situation as this. I have a ccw, but sometimes I do not want anyone to see the gun.
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Sometimes?
 
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