R.W.Dale
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Full power loadings pretty much replicate 308/7.62x51mm
With a cartridge developed in the 1880's
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Great Cartridges But NOt Popular
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Full power loadings pretty much replicate 308/7.62x51mm
With a cartridge developed in the 1880's
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gpb
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Great Cartridges But Not Popular
The 8X57 and the series of cartridges directly or indirectly derived from it.
6mm Remington
257 Roberts
7X57
9X57
9.3X57
The 8X57 and the series of cartridges directly or indirectly derived from it.
6mm Remington
257 Roberts
7X57
9X57
9.3X57
Kachok
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257 Roberts
6.5x55
7x57
6mm Rem
280 Rem (both standard and AI versions)
9.3x62
and 35 Whelen
6.5x55
7x57
6mm Rem
280 Rem (both standard and AI versions)
9.3x62
and 35 Whelen
Ar180shooter
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Another +1 for the .338 Federal.
Also, the .325 WSM.
Also, the .325 WSM.
NWcityguy2
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35 Remington, because bigger bullets still make bigger holes.
.250 Savage, .257 Roberts, 7mm Mauser
Yeah Baby!
I have had rifles in all three calibers, own a 7 Mauser now
All three are exceptional shooting calibers, very versatile, very accurate, very useful.
Man how I miss my old 99A Savage lever action!!!
Yeah Baby!
I have had rifles in all three calibers, own a 7 Mauser now
All three are exceptional shooting calibers, very versatile, very accurate, very useful.
Man how I miss my old 99A Savage lever action!!!
rskent
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Why is this a great rifle cartridge?
Just asking.
Boxhead
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Just about everything I use.
22 Hornet
222 Rem
250 Savage
7x57
280 Rem
8x57
338-06
348 Win
358 Win
35 Whelen
9.3x62
22 Hornet
222 Rem
250 Savage
7x57
280 Rem
8x57
338-06
348 Win
358 Win
35 Whelen
9.3x62
firesky101
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higher pressure than other rimfires. The ballistics really outrun the .22 mag, and has a similar effective range as the .17 hmr but with better performance in the wind. If you know anyone with one for a reasonable price I want, never mind that I NEED.
.333 Nitro Express
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I think the thread would be more interesting if we also said *why* we think our dark horse is a great cartridge.
My list goes as follows (and not necessarily in order of my preferences):
6.5x55 - When I managed a rifle brand, I kept this cartridge in the lineup, in spite of the fact that it never took off (and I'd hear it from my boss at every year-end report meeting). It just felt right, somehow. I now see that the new PM has drastically curtailed the 6.5 from the offerings--which makes sense from a marketing standpoint but still breaks my heart. I must confess that I never understood why Americans don't buy this cartridge. There are few cartridges between .25 and .270/.280 that are as mild, accurate, powerful and versatile as the 6.5x55 which, with the right bullet, can span the gamut between varmint and moose (ask the Finns). Why it is not more popular, especially in light of America's love affair with surplus Mauser 96s, I'll never understand.
.280 Remington / 7x64 Brenneke - Bridges the gap wonderfully between the 7x57 and the 7mm Rem Mag, giving you more punch than the former without the pyrotechnics of the latter. Especially with heavier bullets--like the wonderful 170gr soft at 2700fps--it could be a perfect, mild-recoiling one-rifle battery for America's big game (and much of Africa's too). I'd go as far as to say that the .280 Rem is a better cartridge than the .270 Win--all else being equal, more bullet-weight selection, and much better sectional density (therefore penetration) with the heavier bullets. I've never understood while this most excellent of .30/06-based cartridges has never taken off, while most others have. Perhaps no Jack O' Connor to engrave it in America's heart...
.300 H&H - With its lovely sloping shoulders, this most ancient of .300 magnums feeds like a dream, is a joy to handload and has plenty of history to boot. It is inherently accurate, can be loaded down to .30/06 levels or up to match its more powerful cousin the .300 Win Mag. But most of all, its long neck just begs for it to be loaded with 200+ grainers, making it a surefire killer for bigger game. As soon as I get a rifle in this chambering, I will load it up with a 250gr Hawk round nose to duplicate the .318 Wesley Richards (another awesome cartridge).
.303 British - While sales of .303 remain brisk for the zillions of Enfields out there, I am baffled as to why this cartridge is not loaded in more commercial rifles. I was happy to see Ruger offer it in the No. 1 (matter of time until I get me one), but I also think it would make a great chambering for a magazine-fed lever action like the Winchester 1895--which has been an on-and-off reality without ever becoming even a mild favorite. The .303 offers plenty of power and trajectory for any hunting out to 300 yards, and with its original 215gr bullet it makes an interesting cartridge for anything that walks in North America.
.35 Whelen - What I said about the .280 with regard to the 7mm class applies to the .35 Whelen for the medium bore class. What an awesome cartridge this is--powerful, mild-recoiling, flat-shooting, .30/06 based and therefore easy to chamber in an existing rifle/action, and yet it still is regarded pretty much as a wildcat. Come think of it, the whole non-magnum category between .300 and .375 is fairly underrepresented in popular bolt-action cartridges. I couldn't think of a better one-rifle battery for any nondangerous big game than a .35 Whelen and a few boxes of 225gr spitzers and 300gr round noses.
Besides my personal pets (obsolete British African cartridges, some European ones), I really do think the above to be truly great chamberings that have suffered from the magic of a popular "champion," good marketing and/or a smashing new rifle chambered for any of them.
My list goes as follows (and not necessarily in order of my preferences):
6.5x55 - When I managed a rifle brand, I kept this cartridge in the lineup, in spite of the fact that it never took off (and I'd hear it from my boss at every year-end report meeting). It just felt right, somehow. I now see that the new PM has drastically curtailed the 6.5 from the offerings--which makes sense from a marketing standpoint but still breaks my heart. I must confess that I never understood why Americans don't buy this cartridge. There are few cartridges between .25 and .270/.280 that are as mild, accurate, powerful and versatile as the 6.5x55 which, with the right bullet, can span the gamut between varmint and moose (ask the Finns). Why it is not more popular, especially in light of America's love affair with surplus Mauser 96s, I'll never understand.
.280 Remington / 7x64 Brenneke - Bridges the gap wonderfully between the 7x57 and the 7mm Rem Mag, giving you more punch than the former without the pyrotechnics of the latter. Especially with heavier bullets--like the wonderful 170gr soft at 2700fps--it could be a perfect, mild-recoiling one-rifle battery for America's big game (and much of Africa's too). I'd go as far as to say that the .280 Rem is a better cartridge than the .270 Win--all else being equal, more bullet-weight selection, and much better sectional density (therefore penetration) with the heavier bullets. I've never understood while this most excellent of .30/06-based cartridges has never taken off, while most others have. Perhaps no Jack O' Connor to engrave it in America's heart...
.300 H&H - With its lovely sloping shoulders, this most ancient of .300 magnums feeds like a dream, is a joy to handload and has plenty of history to boot. It is inherently accurate, can be loaded down to .30/06 levels or up to match its more powerful cousin the .300 Win Mag. But most of all, its long neck just begs for it to be loaded with 200+ grainers, making it a surefire killer for bigger game. As soon as I get a rifle in this chambering, I will load it up with a 250gr Hawk round nose to duplicate the .318 Wesley Richards (another awesome cartridge).
.303 British - While sales of .303 remain brisk for the zillions of Enfields out there, I am baffled as to why this cartridge is not loaded in more commercial rifles. I was happy to see Ruger offer it in the No. 1 (matter of time until I get me one), but I also think it would make a great chambering for a magazine-fed lever action like the Winchester 1895--which has been an on-and-off reality without ever becoming even a mild favorite. The .303 offers plenty of power and trajectory for any hunting out to 300 yards, and with its original 215gr bullet it makes an interesting cartridge for anything that walks in North America.
.35 Whelen - What I said about the .280 with regard to the 7mm class applies to the .35 Whelen for the medium bore class. What an awesome cartridge this is--powerful, mild-recoiling, flat-shooting, .30/06 based and therefore easy to chamber in an existing rifle/action, and yet it still is regarded pretty much as a wildcat. Come think of it, the whole non-magnum category between .300 and .375 is fairly underrepresented in popular bolt-action cartridges. I couldn't think of a better one-rifle battery for any nondangerous big game than a .35 Whelen and a few boxes of 225gr spitzers and 300gr round noses.
Besides my personal pets (obsolete British African cartridges, some European ones), I really do think the above to be truly great chamberings that have suffered from the magic of a popular "champion," good marketing and/or a smashing new rifle chambered for any of them.
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218 bee, 25-20, 32-20, 30-30, 38-55, 9mmx32R, 221 fireball, 358 win.
stubbicatt
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6.5x54 M/S. Light recoil, long bullet, accurate, beautiful rifles it is chambered in. Sorta like a 30-30.
rodinal220
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8mm Remington Magnum.
RSVP2RIP
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284 Winchester - case capacity of the 30-06 in a short action. With proper magazine can be loaded to potential with heavier bullets. The original compact magnum. Got a Winchester M100 in it and had a Ruger M77 in it which I gave to my brother. Both outstanding guns.
Not sure where you got the idea that the 6.8 wasn't popular. The only cartridge more popular in the AR is 5.56/.223. More companies make rifles, barrels and ammo for the 6.8 than all the other "secondary" cartridges combined. It hasn't caught on in other platforms because it doesn't offer anything new or special like it does in the AR.
I'd agree with the .280 Rem and add the 7mm WSM. 7mm Rem Mag ballistics with no silly belt and fits in a short action, what's not to like.
It does not matter much what cartridge you shoot as long as it's reasonable for the task.
The major reason there are so many of them is that the companies keep bringing them out to envoke that most effective selling idea. That's the word "NEW".
It gets us to buy another gun when we already have a suitable one!
However it's fun talking about the various choices we have.
There is a .280 Rem. topic going one elsewhere and they got into tiny little details over some miniscule difference in loading components to show the 280 to 'almost' equal the 7mm RM.
On and on it goes.
And here I am reading it myself!
The major reason there are so many of them is that the companies keep bringing them out to envoke that most effective selling idea. That's the word "NEW".
It gets us to buy another gun when we already have a suitable one!
However it's fun talking about the various choices we have.
There is a .280 Rem. topic going one elsewhere and they got into tiny little details over some miniscule difference in loading components to show the 280 to 'almost' equal the 7mm RM.
On and on it goes.
And here I am reading it myself!
R.W.Dale
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When you split hairs there's really nothing 280 does that 270 doesn't do better and did first with its higher pressure rating. There's only .007" difference in bullet diameter betwixt the two so in my book they're close enough to be considered the same.
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steveracer
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250 savage is my all time favorite centerfire rifle cartridge. I have killed truckloads of deer with a Ruger M77 chambered in 250 Savage.
R.W.Dale
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IMO 250 and 300 savage really stand out.
More than enough for deer out to 300yds but not overkill yet a great deal more powerful than "leveraction" or intermediate rounds. IMO 250 sav is the perfect deer rifle cartridge
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