Grocery chain gone anti-gun...

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Sometimes you have to get off your high horse and suck it up and just disarm and continue to patronize. Yeah yeah I know it is not forthcoming of RKBA but still there is a point where inconveniencing yourself will only get you so far.
 
Got to love Montana. ;)

That story, the PS90 and all, was in Colorado, actually. Here in MT, no one has said a single solitary peep about my carrying firearms. :)

Your story made me shed one little tear of joy.
And think, it wasn't that uncommon to see OTHER people carrying, as well. It's just that a SBR PS90 isn't exactly an everyday sight in a grocery store. :)
 
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Some of the Fred Meyers stores in Oregon sell handguns and I believe are owned by Krogers
WHAT?!?!? Can you please tell me where this magical store is? I've never seen a firearm of any type in any Fred Meyer I have ever been to. By "handgun", do you mean airsoft or paintball guns?

Oh my God, he wasn't lying. I just googled it and it seems as if certain Fred Meyers stores are selling guns and ammo. Specifically, Newberg, Tillamook, Bend, and a few others. I love it!
 
He did everything right except for going back in to shop. I would have replied: "I will remove my firearm from your store along with my family and all my future business. If I don't have the right to protect myself and my family, in this store - then I will NOT shop here and I will pass on your policy to every gun owner that I can possibly reach.". Or put all of that on a card and hand it to him when you leave. I'm going to make some cards.

A heads up, my local Lowe's is extremely anti-gun. Every single time I go (went) there, I would see employees huddled together looking at me with a half full cart and I'm looking at items. Not your typical BG profile. Finally, someone will get the nerve to approach me.

I have never been back, after 4 visits that were the same. I strictly do all of my business with Home Depot, where no one has had a problem. I know they don't care, but I alone have taken at least a thousand dollars of business away from Lowes. I bought some air filters at Lowes, they are the only place in town that carrys them. Do I get them there? Heck no, I order them on the net and not from Lowe's site.

If enough of us could manage to have one website where we could exchange such information, and as a large group of gun owners, we could send letters to the headquarters of such business's stating our legal right to carry. If they don't change their policy, we could have a nationwide boycott that might affect their bottom dollar.
 
Oh my God, he wasn't lying. I just googled it and it seems as if certain Fred Meyers stores are selling guns and ammo. Specifically, Newberg, Tillamook, Bend, and a few others. I love it!

Why is that so surprising? I recall plenty of stores in the mall where I used to live selling guns and ammo, and on the weekends it wasn't uncommon to see young folks walking around in the mall, rifles slung, or, more usually, sitting on a bench, holding the rifle, reading the new manual. :)

I do recall one particular store from my time in Vermont, too - groceries, guns, ammo, alcohol, tobacco products, etc. It was just another store, to other people, but I'd just moved from around Boston, to there! :D
 
For what it's worth, Kroger used to be a corporate sponsor of GeorgiaCarry.org. For some time I shopped at Kroger exclusively for this very reason. They gave up the sponsorship within the last year or two.
 
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Probably a change of leadership at the executive level.

I'm sure if we stay on them they'll get the picture.

I wonder how many food/retail establishments have been scrutinizing developments with Starbucks?
Honestly, I never made an effort to frequent their stores until all the the hubub about concealed carry. Since they did the right thing and refused to be bullied by the Brady Bunch, I now go out of my way to buy coffee from them.
 
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With that kind of treatment and the store not being posted, you could probably sue them and get something (not a lot) if you so desired. Might also be worth contacting the various RKBA organizations to start a boycott or get Kroger to revise their supposed policy.
That's absolutely ridiculous. If it's not posted they can't have you arrested for carrying, but if they ask you to leave or if they tell you to not bring your gun in, you have no legal recourse, because it is private property. Suing them is like the idiots that sue the gun companies.
 
I lived in Ohio for a number of years and it surprised me how anti-gun the state was.
It's an entirely different state now.

There is state preemption of gun laws. Cleveland doesn't think that applies to them. They're on their way to a boot in the groin from the Ohio Supreme Court.

Legislation is pending to legalize non-drinking carry in Class D liquor establishments and to remove most of the method of carry restrictions for a CHL holder while in a vehicle.

Ohio now has an EXTREMELY pro-gun Democrat governor.
 
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With that kind of treatment and the store not being posted, you could probably sue them and get something (not a lot) if you so desired.

This type of response is disgusting, it does nothing to support any cause, only ones greed. A merchant has the right to refuse service to anyone.

I also think that the "victim" deserved it. He obviously failed in his efforts to carry concealed.

Ohio has allowed open carry since late 2003 and one can still do so without a CHL license and so the gun being visible should really not have been an issue as far as the law in concerned.

Does this explain the open carry issue? Get it?
 
I lived in Ohio for a number of years and it surprised me how anti-gun the state was.

The mall I spoke of is near Lancaster, Ohio. Right near Columbus. ;)
 
Ohio has allowed open carry since late 2003 and one can still do so without a CHL license and so the gun being visible should really not have been an issue as far as the law in concerned.

No, it was not a legal issue in regard to the visibility of the gun, but the patron did say he was carrying concealed and yet the people in the store were able to discern that he was carrying. Apparently, his notion or method of concealed carry is flawed.
 
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Mainbar: It's unfortunate that the individual in question didn't understand the meaning of the word concealed.

Sidebar: The Fred Myers chain, owned by Kroger's, currently is looking at the sale of firearms and ammo. The test stores in Oregon are in Newberg, Tillamook, Brookings, and Bend. The topic has been a hot one on the Northwest Forum for some time. Here's a link, in the event that you are intersted.

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17594&highlight=fred+myers+ammo
 
Just sent em a message.

"To whom it may concern:

It has recently been brought to my attention, through several online sources, that your corporate office has taken the stance that it will be company policy to disallow the carrying of any firearm, either concealed or otherwise, in any of your stores. As someone who legally carries a firearm in my normal day-to-day activities, this concerns me greatly as I have been a frequent patron of your stores in the past. I would appreciate some clarification of your stance on this issue, as if it is indeed the case that you don't wish to allow legal firearms carry in your stores, then I don't wish to continue to give you my business or my patronage. Further, if this is indeed the case, I fully intend to help spread your message to other members of the firearms-carrying community with whom I am acquainted. I have no doubt that they, too, would be more than happy to drive further across town to shop at a more accepting store.

Regards,
il_10 (gave em my real name...)"

https://customer.kroger.com/comments/comments.aspx

can't hurt.
 
Why are so many being so easily made, in the store?
"So many"?

I seem to breeze right through, concealment isn't that hard, it doesn't even require some kind of ridiculous deep-concealment rig, just IWB with a suitable holster/belt and an untucked button-front shirt.
 
What part of oregon are you in so i can move there quickly?

If your in Portland then you'd have to go WAY out to either Newberg or Scapoose to see handguns in Freddies:what:

Newbery is my secret place for PMC 380...OH NO what have I done:banghead:
 
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That's absolutely ridiculous. If it's not posted they can't have you arrested for carrying, but if they ask you to leave or if they tell you to not bring your gun in, you have no legal recourse, because it is private property. Suing them is like the idiots that sue the gun companies.

The story seems to indicate that two people were harassed in various ways for perfectly legal conduct. Is is that different from the store manager coming up to them and saying "I see that you're a (religious insult), we don't like your kind here."? I don't see anything ridiculous about it, if it happened as described. But if you believe in random harassment for engaging in lawful conduct, enjoy. It does seem like the world is heading towards fascism anyway.
 
"So many"?

I seem to breeze right through, concealment isn't that hard, it doesn't even require some kind of ridiculous deep-concealment rig, just IWB with a suitable holster/belt and an untucked button-front shirt.
Exactly. If the store managers are singling you out, you aren't doing it right.
 
Guys, you're reading more into it than is written. It never SAYS he was concealing, just that he has his permit. It's been established that OC is perfectly legal in that state.
 
We have situations like this happen all of the time in VA. There is a group called the VCDL (VA Citizens Defense League) that will look into the situation, talk to the manager and corporate headquarters and then make the stores gun policies known among it's members. It's amazing how many stores change their "Policy" after getting a call and notice that they are being outed as anti gun in this very pro gun state.
 
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