Guns not wanted in "family-friendly" Target

[Potatohead]

Hope the antis dont start sending their own people in, with ar15 slung. Seems an effective way to quickly turn a business in their direction. Surely they're not that smart are they?


(I see now, this has already been covered by others in the thread.)

 

[tarosean]

Wrong! Period. OCT is doing it to draw attention to the fact that they cannot openly carry a handgun. Any "attention" they garner is a by product of their protesting the current laws in Texas.

The other "byproduct" is that they are jeopardizing TABC licensee's. Placing them position to potentially have their license revoked.

Intentionally hurting a private business is absolutely not the way to go about it..

 

[silicosys4]

Here is a pic on one popular, mainstream humorous website poking fun of the slung-rifle-in-walmart thing, for those who believe that OCT is somehow influencing public perception for the positive

http://uberhumor.com/meanwhile-at-walmart-17

This behavior isn't winning points, and I see this kind of post on a non political humor website as a sign that OCT is attracting some serious negative attention that is not accomplishing anything of value.

 

[SuperNaut]

Do keep in mind that WBC motivation is monetary; they provoke the grieving family members or friends into attacking a WBC member, then sue them (or sue the police for not protecting them). IIRC, all but one of the WBC clan are lawyers.

Good point, and it further differentiates the two groups.

Right, it sounds like the WBC clan is better educated than OCT.

 

[zxcvbob]

Wrong! Period. OCT is doing it to draw attention to the fact that they cannot openly carry a handgun. Any "attention" they garner is a by product of their protesting the current laws in Texas.

That's not true. You can carry holstered "antique" handguns. Muzzleloaders (Ruger Old Army, and all sorts of replicas), or actual Colt and Remington cartridge guns made before 1898.

This *might* even avoid the problem with the TABC licensing -- maybe someone more familiar with Texas law can comment on that.

 

[SnowBlaZeR2]

Right, it sounds like the WBC clan is better educated than OCT.

That's likely true. Being educated does not always make one a useful contributor to society.

 

[Midwest]

For what it is worth, there is a huge 25 page thread called "You guys have to stop open carying your rifles in places of business." at the open carry forums

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...pen-carying-your-rifles-in-places-of-business

Some blame the open carry groups
Some blame the NRA
Some blame the TSRA
Some blame Moms (MDA)
Some defend the open carry groups

It is a pretty hot topic

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[Deltaboy1984]

Temptest in a Teapot. Thanks OC Texas for this. As for myself I CCW anyway so this is a non issue for me here in Texas.

 

[george burns]

It's only a matter of time until something bad comes of this. Like a crazy shooting into a crowd or setting off fireworks, and getting some unstable person to start firing their rifle.
It's an accident waiting to happen. Can you imagine a group of men shooting at some crazy kid "which we know are out there", and hitting innocent shoppers in a department store.
It will set things back 10 years. There are those who are mentally unstable, this gives them a platform to go out in a blaze of glory, "in their eyes".
It's like you are watching a catastrophe about to happen in slow motion. All this is going to accomplish is create more places where gun owners are not welcome. Why don't people get this?

 

[barnbwt]

Temptest in a Teapot. Thanks OC Texas for this. As for myself I CCW anyway so this is a non issue for me here in Texas.

You do realize TX is on pace to get open carry in a year or so, provided someone doesn't queer the deal . How nice it would be to never have to worry about printing/revealing under any circumstances...

Being educated does not always make one a useful contributor to society.

It's only a matter of time until something bad comes of this. Like a crazy shooting into a crowd or setting off fireworks, and getting some unstable person to start firing their rifle.

Yeah, it'll be the blood soaked streets of the Wild West once these guys start carrying rifles they're already carrying.

Why don't people get this?

Because it never happens that way, ever; that's why. Why cry wolf when there're actual, good reasons to blast OCT's tactics? They're scaring people intentionally, which is immoral and illegal. They're showing how wildly impractical gun owners can be. They're showing a disregard and ignorance of the laws of both men and firearms safety. They're continuing to press on in zealous fury despite massive evidence their efforts are counterproductive.

Pick one, but don't claim they're shooting at people until they are. Which they haven't been, and which they won't.

TCB

 

[Midwest]

It's only a matter of time until something bad comes of this. Like a crazy shooting into a crowd or setting off fireworks, and getting some unstable person to start firing their rifle.
It's an accident waiting to happen. Can you imagine a group of men shooting at some crazy kid "which we know are out there", and hitting innocent shoppers in a department store.
It will set things back 10 years. There are those who are mentally unstable, this gives them a platform to go out in a blaze of glory, "in their eyes".
It's like you are watching a catastrophe about to happen in slow motion. All this is going to accomplish is create more places where gun owners are not welcome. Why don't people get this?

My thoughts are that this could back fire even worse (for Texas gun owners) if the anti's introduce legislation to ban the carrying of rifles in public except for hunting or on private land. Some will say "don't worry because Texas is very pro-gun and Republican and it will never happen" .

Don't think that this can't happen! I have read comments here and elsewhere that the political shift in Texas have been changing from Red to Blue.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/04/1213826/-Texas-is-going-to-get-very-very-interesting

"Battleground Texas is laying the foundation for the coming Texas Democratic majority."

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/...hy-texas-could-flip-quickly-from-red-to-blue/

"And when you look at how Texas’ changing ethnic landscape combines with its age breakdown, you’ll see signs that if Texas flips, it could go from red to purple to blue relatively quickly."

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/11/19/121119fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

“In not too many years, Texas could switch from being all Republican to all Democrat,” he said. “If that happens, no Republican will ever again win the White House."


Even worse that if open carry of long guns is banned in Texas , Bloomberg with his $30 million could focus his money toward writing legislation to ban open carry even in so called "free states".

It is bad enough we have to deal with the threat of UBC (Universal Background Checks). But now we have to be concerned with how these "open carry" stunts are doing to hurt our cause.

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