Happened Saturday -- what would you do?

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Shoot until he drops. The man has already attacked, and shown his willingness to sneak-attack as well. Whether his back was turned or not when the victim of the attack was able to retrieve their weapon matters not. They were attacked, and the attacker has not retreated.
 
Incident occured in East Central Florida.

Neighbor is in mid 50s, wife a few years younger. Attacker's age unknown, but younger by a few years.
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So I take it the attacker was not shot down? I wonder who he will victimize next, and if they can afford their hospital bills afterwards...


"simple assault" runs up quite a bill for the victims and society in general, it should not be tolerated any more than an attack with a weapon.
 
I would have shot. I was in fear for my wife's life and my own. I thought he was getting a weapon to finish the job.
 
Seems we're all in agreement with what my neighbor chose. He shot. Missed by an inch or two (bullet went into seat, according to deputy.)

Attacker turned and ran (wth a steel pipe in his hand.) Store had already called SO; deputy enroute captured BG.

Deputy told neighbor he wished the shot had connected; BG had long history of violence and deputy believed he would have killed or maimed them both.

No charges against neighbor. The wife, who had not been in favor of CCW before, is in CCW class today! They bought her pistol and upgraded from the lousy derringer Monday.

I wasn't there, so I'm guessing with the rest of you, but I think I would have fired too (I'm older but in better health.)
 
I hope your neighbor's carrying a full size 1911 now:)....or a 500 Magnum.:eek:

What WAS the BG after? A few dollars, maybe?

IDIOT.

I hope he does it again real soon to the person that can fire eight rounds in 1.3 seconds on the nose (sic). But, before he does that, I hope he knows where he's going to spend eternity, because at the rate he's goin' he's mighty close to being there.
 
I would have definitely shot him dead. After all he's protecting his wife who is all ready on the ground like himself and a target.

My next question would be what's up with the 2 women in the store are they holding it up??
 
"Shoot until he drops."

Agreed.

I'm an at-risk person myself.

Wasn't there somebody who posted something like this about a year ago, and one of the responses was to turn the gasoline hose on the attacker?

I agree about gas pumps being a high alert area.
 
The attacker never said a word to my neighbor. Neither did the women with him until afterwards. There was no robbery attempt, no threat, no traffic incident, nothing. Psycho IMHO
 
that's a tricky one. I know by the law, should NOT fire unless he turned back around with a weapon.
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WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

The requirements to use lethal force in most if not all states are:

Your attacker has the means to inflict death or severe bodily harm

Your attacker has the intent to inflict death or severe bodily harm

Your attacker has the opportunity to inflict death or severe bodily harm

All three conditions were met.

The fact that the man's attacker had his back turned is completely irrelevant.

The attacker retained opportunity by remaining in the near vicinity.

He had exhibited intent with his initial violent assualt and was exhibiting continued intent by not retreating and reaching under the seat to retrieve what a reasonable man would assume to be a weapon.

He had the means as demonstrated by his initial violent attack.

Shooting the attacker in the back would be completely justified under the conditions described.

Even in states where the law mandates retreat that mandate is eliminated if retreat is not possible. The man's wife was on the ground, the man was on the ground. Retreat wasn't an option.

Shooting the attacker was the only option.

Like the Sheriff's Deputy remarked: Too bad the man missed.
 
I would shoot him.

The poor victim on the ground was partially disabled and his wife just got punched hard enough to have blood coming out. All he had was a derringer with the bad guy going after a possible gun. There is no time to wait. If the bad guy whips around with the gun...........it's all over....... one way or the other. Either could be dead.

Rule #2 in a gun fight :

Never give the bad guy an even break.
 
Seems we're all in agreement with what my neighbor chose. He shot. Missed by an inch or two (bullet went into seat, according to deputy.)

Attacker turned and ran (wth a steel pipe in his hand.) Store had already called SO; deputy enroute captured BG.

Deputy told neighbor he wished the shot had connected; BG had long history of violence and deputy believed he would have killed or maimed them both.

No charges against neighbor. The wife, who had not been in favor of CCW before, is in CCW class today! They bought her pistol and upgraded from the lousy derringer Monday.

I wasn't there, so I'm guessing with the rest of you, but I think I would have fired too (I'm older but in better health.)
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Good to know he didn't get any idiotic charges levelled against him. What did he upgrade to? Was the derringer a "compromise" weapon with his wife? Sort of an "I don't want you to carry a gun at all, but you can carry this little non-threatening one if you must" deal?

I hate those, you can do what you want but only to such a pathetic degree that you won't actually be getting anything you want deals. Betcha she won't complain when he starts carrying an actual socially-useful firearm in the future. It's too bad his shot didn't connect with the scums brainstem.
 
In my view, perp has already shown intent to injure or worse. Perp violating personal property (which may or may not fall under Castle Doctrine in that state). Given history of being attacked by that perp, victim has reason to believe attacks will continue and given his health situation, feared for his life and that of his wife.

Justifiable shot IMO, but I am hardly a lawyer.

As an aside, this is one reason I maintain complete situational awareness when filling up. You ARE vulnerable - tied to your car so to speak. Wife will generally stay in car and keep doors locked until I'm done and ready to get back in.
 
I'm in my early 50's and had had a heart attack in the past.

I think it's about time I start wearing my 500. I guess I'll need to have my wife make me up some kind of special rig to harness it in the front of my pants.

There are certainly a lot of crazies out there!

I think part of it is that prison is a lot better place than where a lot of people currently live! And it's FREE!
 
I think a reasonable person would assume he is reaching for a weapon.

No ability to retreat from a stronger attacker? Shoot the bastard in the back until he is no longer able to continue the attack.

Fortunately it would probably all be on tape.
 
Good job on the neighbor for taking the shot rather than trying to "fight fair" at the possible expense of his and his wife's lives.

Shake his hand for me and make sure to send his wife to www.corneredcat.com for the female-related info she needs.
 
BANG! BANG! ... BANG!

If that happened today, with my wife being 7 months pregnant, you bet the guy would be full of holes from my Ruger LCP.
 
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