Been watching them go on gb for sub 200 3x in the last couple weeks
Help me pick a cartridge I don't want, to go in a gun I don't like.
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And respectfully the .270wsm still interests me most in an R1 configuration but eventually the bolt may get a nod. The .250 ai is mostly for the youngest daughter (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it lol, but she's shooting south paw so gonna haveta build that one anyway) however if the .250AI is gonna haveta find a new home to make room for this new abomination (perish the thought) my family and I will have to step up and offer it our humble abode.......That an offer?
And you've still got a .250AI to collect
So magnum bolt head? Does it have the claw extractor too?
WestKentucky
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Now that we are jumping into the .277s, I will throw this out there. Not sure it will fit in the action, but I have been saying that if I blow out my .270 barrel (might have already happened) I would try to cram in a .277 Weatherby. I don’t like belted magnums, but have to admit that a super duper .270 would be pretty sweet.
I don’t recall any votes for 6.8spc either, but where there is room for long action, long action rounds seem fitting.
I don’t recall any votes for 6.8spc either, but where there is room for long action, long action rounds seem fitting.
troy fairweather
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saw some 7x61 sharp and hart ammo today, this got me thinking
I missed that post.
The 45 Raptor is another that begs for a short barrel, brute of a rifle, not the stupid long axis I'll be working with. It's another that screams lever or slide to me also lol.
Sounds like she really wants a lefty model 7 with a remage barrel system.......250ai now, 6.5 or 7mm creedmoor later.
Well the guy who owns the rifle is giving it to me with the condition he gets first dibs if it's AWSOME! So this may turn into a prodigal son story.
Bolt head is a regular push feed, didn't want to try messing around with crf AND a rebated rim.
That leads me to the next post.
Agreed, there have been some great suggestions for shorter cartridges, but that's alot of action for a stumpy.
It's funny you bring up the .270wby, because it occurred to me earlier that it might be preferable, especially if the guy keeps the rifle, as he doesn't reload.
The mags are 3.5" ish long so even with the 170eol loaded with the shank at the bottom of the neck there is still enough space to clear.
Factory ammo is also available over the counter, and push come to shove I can make brass from 7mms (watched my fil do it for his .270 wby).
That would be nearly sacrilegious! It would need to be in little classier rifle.
Riomouse911
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When I first saw this, I was thinking an 8.59 Titan in a reworked Rem 700 made into a 660-like carbine....THAT would be a combo I would hate from the very first shot 
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Stay safe!
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mustanger98
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Hey LoonWulf, I tuned in late to this one and just read the first page so far. Then it hit me... your buddy's for sale rifle... not only is it an Axis you don't like, but it's already a .308 too. From what you said, I don't know how you're going to get further off the Rez, which is normally supposed to be fun.
You tempt me sir!
Oh its still fun, even @Riomouse911 's idea sounds fun.....to watch.
I was sorta waiting for a "why is this a question, you already have the perfect(ly bad) gun right there" post lol so I thought up all kinds a good reasons why I needed to change suff even if I stayed with the .308......and now I don't remember them.
I think the decision no .308 (besides messing with the stock barrel) has been made.
It looks like the .277 fast twist is where its going.
Now since were in a caliber range we need to pick a cartridge.
I'm gonna have a conversion with my buddy about what he wants, and what absolutely won't work for him. He didn't give me any direction when we talked today, but right now the front runners are the standard .270, the .270wsm, and the .270wby.
troy fairweather
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between me and my dad we have owned all of the commercial wsms and like them all. i like my 7mmwsm A-bolt very much, my brother shoots his A-bolt in 270wsm. both the rifles shoot very well.
MachIVshooter
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Make it an integrally suppressed project.
While I'd love to, and you KNOW I'd be pestering you about it, if it we're an option, we can't have them here.
TN Outlaw
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I'm so curious which direction you will decide to go.
For me, I have this hankering for a .277-08 in a light rig. Maybe a 20" Sporter 1:8"twist bbl. It just seems to be a perfect little hunting rifle to slip around in the woods being short and handy and packing a good wallop with a 160gr NP or 170gr Berger and not be under gunned if I came to a good size field because of it still being a flat shooting round and enough for any sensible hunting distance.
BUT, I also have a hankering for a 26" .270 WBY or WSM hotrod shooting the heavies. This is what has driven me the most to get started on this project. I wish there were more .277 bullets tough enough to handle the higher velocities on game. The TTSX and Nosler AB should work. Maybe the Woodleigh Weldcore too.
I hope you don't mind me using you as my personal lab rat before I settle on a direction for myself. Lol
For me, I have this hankering for a .277-08 in a light rig. Maybe a 20" Sporter 1:8"twist bbl. It just seems to be a perfect little hunting rifle to slip around in the woods being short and handy and packing a good wallop with a 160gr NP or 170gr Berger and not be under gunned if I came to a good size field because of it still being a flat shooting round and enough for any sensible hunting distance.
BUT, I also have a hankering for a 26" .270 WBY or WSM hotrod shooting the heavies. This is what has driven me the most to get started on this project. I wish there were more .277 bullets tough enough to handle the higher velocities on game. The TTSX and Nosler AB should work. Maybe the Woodleigh Weldcore too.
I hope you don't mind me using you as my personal lab rat before I settle on a direction for myself. Lol
the Black Spot
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Didnt read whole thread. But i'd keep it 308 and cut barrel to 17" and shoot cast bullets out of it.
doubleh
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Axis in the post did it for me. I wouldn't touch one again with a stick and I have no like for the 308 either. I bought an Axis before the accu-trigger or Boyd's stocks. I spent quite a bit of time and a few bucks on this sucker. I built my own stock from scratch and installed an aftermarket trigger. I now have a rifle I still don't like and isn't worth much for sale or trade. It's one good quality is it's pretty accurate. Now if it were a 110 I could work up some interest.
mustanger98
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There's 110's and there's 110's. I like the Model 11/111GL with or without the Accutrigger. I could've done without that stupid center-feed crap... just aggravating to load, and while you can just single-load, you can't drop in a single-shot follower.
With the Axis and Axis II, I don't know much about it. The gun writers tried to act like it's a sort of reiteration of the Model 340. Considering how they change stuff over time and having a little positive experience with a M340 in .30-30, I don't think so. Just like a salesman tried to tell me a Ruger American was the same gun as the M77 Mk2. Yeah, right.
Well, it is what it is and we get to shop around and tinker.
With the Axis and Axis II, I don't know much about it. The gun writers tried to act like it's a sort of reiteration of the Model 340. Considering how they change stuff over time and having a little positive experience with a M340 in .30-30, I don't think so. Just like a salesman tried to tell me a Ruger American was the same gun as the M77 Mk2. Yeah, right.
Well, it is what it is and we get to shop around and tinker.
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I'm not familiar with the GL variants?
Bending the sides of the box out a bit helps make the centerfeed easier to load. They have actually become the mag guts for a number of projects, including the 6-284 Arisaka @horsey300 picked up from me earlier this year.
They ain't as nice as a properly designed and executed double stack. That's sized to a specific cartridge, but they are modular, reliable, and with some tweaking pretty easy to live with.
So I talked to my buddy and right now we are pretty set on
McGowen stainless 26" 1-8 .270wby
Boyd's at-one or ProV (he needs to handle my stock still to see if he wants the vertical grip or a more sporter shaped stock)
Glades Armory replacement handle to fix the eww savage installs on the axis.
I'll do a trigger job first and foremost, trying @Hookeye 's method. Then if not acceptable a swap to a rifle basix.
Somewhere in there (cause it's gonna take me the better part of the year to save up for the barrel) I'll mess with the stock .308. I want to try cast bullets in the short tube idea, as well as see how it does with regular loads at 16-17"s.
I'd prefer a .35 or .375 bore to do that with, but like I said earlier, I wanna see what I can make of a .308.
troy fairweather
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i would like to try the lee bullet for the 300 blk. with powder coating works nice and let u run more fps. i have a ss 700 bdl with a 5r mili spec barrel in a b&c medalist stock, on top is a swfa ss10 with leupold mark 4 base with prq rings. it is fun to shoot and keeps u from getting bored with more of a flat shooter. for the axis trigger i shim them and they come out very nice.
mustanger98
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GL variants... G - Hunter series, L - Left handed.
G series used to come with a wood stock. Also used to have barrel-mounted sights up until about 2008, AFAIK.
G series used to come with a wood stock. Also used to have barrel-mounted sights up until about 2008, AFAIK.
I'm probably gonna use the 245mbcs again, they shot well from my 300aac.
I'd actually forgotten that you could get them with sights lol.
My first savage was a wood stocked 7mag, that I got in highschool (99) for 275 with a cheap Simmons scope lol.
mustanger98
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I still have some of those sabots from when I had a 300aac. Might have to try them again.
Days of the open sighted bolt rifle seem to have passed. To bad that, even if I didn't use them I LIKE the way sights look.Appearantly Savage forgot too.
Picked up the rifle this afternoon, feels like it might already have an aftermarket trigger or spring pack, of some sort.
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How about 375 Raptor. Seems potent.
Velocities are off the website linked above, so take it at face value:
Velocities are off the website linked above, so take it at face value:
- Speer 235 grain @ 2400-2675 fps
- Barnes 250 grain TTSX @ 2250-2450 fps
- Sierra 250 grain Game King @ 2250 – 2550 fps
- Nosler 260 grain Accubond @ 2250 fps – 2525 fps
- Nosler 260 grain Solid @ 2200 – 2400 fps
- Speer 270 grain BTSP @ 2200 – 2400 fps
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