Hi-Point 10mm NEW PISTOL

[Mark_Mark]

Interesting. Wonder how heavy they had to make it. The bolt thrust of 10mm is considerable. .45 ACP is about 3,100 lbs, full power 10mm is around 5,300 lbs.



Keep 2 things in mind if you buy one of these to suppress:

One, 10mm is still quite loud due to being a supersonic pistol round with a blunt bullets profile. This being a blowback host will also make port noise significant.

Two, this is a fixed barrel pistol, so you'll need to use a fixed barrel spacer or direct thread mount.

$35 spacers… check!

 

[Lennyjoe]

Have at it guys! They’re all yours.

I like my Hi-Point carbine but just can’t with their pistols.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

From yeet cannon to YEET CANNON

I think these will sell like hotcakes to dudes up here in Alaska to keep in their cabins, side by sides, fishing boats, etc.

Disposable stash gun that can be used for wildlife defense. At least until someone comes out with a $200 magnum revolver.

 

[TTv2]

Is this the first 10mm handgun to come in at under 500 bucks? If it sells good, maybe it will spark a trend of more affordable 10mm pistols. I would personally like to see an offering from taurus. This will probably be my first hi point purchase. I am not a fan of their looks, but a 200 dollar pistol in 10mm, hard to pass up.

Pretty sure it is, but I'm sure there have been times the Glock 20 has been right at 500.

Funny, last night I was telling people that Hi Point would be wise to focus on making pistols in more obscure calibers like 10mm because the 9mm market is oversaturated and I dont think Hi Point can compete when better 9mm's than theirs are available for not much more, but you offer a $200 10mm and that opens up a market of fence sitters who would like to try the cartridge, but don't want to pay 500 or more for the pistol.

Same goes for stuff like 5.7, .22 TCM, .30 Super Carry, etc.

 

[Styx]

I can't imagine that the pot metal HiPoints are made out of is any more cheaper than polymer. I wish they would go that route. Not sure I'd buy the pot metal Hi Points in any caliber at any price. With that said, they do seem to be very reliable, and have a good warranty.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

I can't imagine that the pot metal HiPoints are made out of is any more cheaper than polymer. I wish they would go that route. Not sure I'd buy the pot metal Hi Points in any caliber at any price. With that said, they do seem to be very reliable, and have a good warranty.

Go what route, polymer slides?
Hipoints are already polymer framed with a zamak (zinc/ aluminum alloy) slide.
Of course, Glock has gone steel/poly for their .22 slides, so why not I guess.

 

[TTv2]

The reason the Hi Point slides are zamak is they need weight for a straight blowback to work and zamak is fast and easy to die cast accurately for a low cost.

I do wonder what Hi Point has done to these 10mm's because for years I heard from people if Hi Point made one it would have to be ginormous, yet the .40 Hi Points are rated for +P (not a SAAMI spec but HP is basically saying you can go 10% over max .40 PSI safely) and that's right at 10mm territory.

I have to assume tungsten weights have been added somewhere in the slide to up the mass, but keep the size the same.

 

[Styx]

Go what route, polymer slides?
Hipoints are already polymer framed with a zamak (zinc/ aluminum alloy) slide.
Of course, Glock has gone steel/poly for their .22 slides, so why not I guess.

I thought the whole thing was pot metal. I never seen one or held one in person. Never seen one in any gun store my entire life. What I was really getting at was them offering something that's normal size and not as hideous.

In that case they should just up the price $75-$100, and use steel slides. They would still sell a ton of them at that price.

 

[Styx]

The reason the Hi Point slides are zamak is they need weight for a straight blowback to work and zamak is fast and easy to die cast accurately for a low cost.

I do wonder what Hi Point has done to these 10mm's because for years I heard from people if Hi Point made one it would have to be ginormous, yet the .40 Hi Points are rated for +P (not a SAAMI spec but HP is basically saying you can go 10% over max .40 PSI safely) and that's right at 10mm territory.

I have to assume tungsten weights have been added somewhere in the slide to up the mass, but keep the size the same.

I will let you be the test dummy lol. This is one pistol that I'd advise to not be a beta tester with. If I were to buy one, I'd at least wait 6 months or so until more data and reviews are out before buying.

 

[WestKentucky]

Not quite pocket carry ... It still won't win the beauty contest, but where else can you get into 10mm for under $500? $225 MSRP sounds like I may need one in my life

Rock Island. My GI basic 10mm 1911 was 400. And it’s a serious shooter.

 

[MikeInOr]

A 10mm blow back pistol? Sounds like a real wrist buster to me!

 

[Mike J]

Is this the first 10mm handgun to come in at under 500 bucks? If it sells good, maybe it will spark a trend of more affordable 10mm pistols. I would personally like to see an offering from taurus. This will probably be my first hi point purchase. I am not a fan of their looks, but a 200 dollar pistol in 10mm, hard to pass up.

Just before Christmas PSA had Taylors & Co (Armscor) 10mm 1911's on sale for under $400. The next week they went up to a touch over $400. Then they were gone.

 

[Buckeye63]

They will sell them as quick as they can make them
Perfect 4 wheeler pistol … deer stand pistol .. barn pistol.. nightstand gun ..range toy … and if you handload .. perfect to test loads in
In my 45acp Hipoint… I ran a bunch of 45 Super through it .. not a hitch

 

[JohnKSa]

Interesting. Wonder how heavy they had to make it.

According to the Hi-Point website, 49oz., about 3.1 lbs. For comparison, a Glock 20 is 28oz, about 1.8lbs. and a Springfield XD-M in 10mm weighs 31oz, about 1.9lbs.

 

[Buckeye63]

I thought the whole thing was pot metal. I never seen one or held one in person. Never seen one in any gun store my entire life. What I was really getting at was them offering something that's normal size and not as hideous.

In that case they should just up the price $75-$100, and use steel slides. They would still sell a ton of them at that price.

Across the parking lot where I used to work.. was a Pawn Shop that would purchase police confiscated firearms… mostly cheapies .. sometimes a great one now and then .. I would get pick after employees … I would buy every Hipoint right off the bat …..at a low cost … some looked great .. some missing sights .. some with road rash ..
Hipoint would give me replacement sights .. they would ship them with the replacement mags I would order … also I had a couple that were non operational.. some looked like they were thrown from a car ..
I know of two I had to send to them ..They repaired one of them , the other was replaced with a new one .. the old serial number was place on the new one

I can’t say how many I owned , how many I traded .. how many I sold , …probably a dozen at least .. most C9’s
Hipoint has great customer service.. and as far as I have seen great quality control…

 

[Mark_Mark]

According to the Hi-Point website, 49oz., about 3.1 lbs. For comparison, a Glock 20 is 28oz, about 1.8lbs. and a Springfield XD-M in 10mm weighs 31oz, about 1.9lbs.

well at $200 for a full house 10mm, let’s factor in the lower income and cheapo’s in the gun community!!

No joke… back in the day’s 10mm meant Upper Crust Gun people

 

[JohnKSa]

Dunno. I bought my first 10mm in '91. I don't remember folks in the gun community viewing it at as an "Upper Crust" option, it just wasn't a common choice.

 

[Styx]

Across the parking lot where I used to work.. was a Pawn Shop that would purchase police confiscated firearms… mostly cheapies .. sometimes a great one now and then .. I would get pick after employees … I would buy every Hipoint right off the bat …..at a low cost … some looked great .. some missing sights .. some with road rash ..
Hipoint would give me replacement sights .. they would ship them with the replacement mags I would order … also I had a couple that were non operational.. some looked like they were thrown from a car ..
I know of two I had to send to them ..They repaired one of them , the other was replaced with a new one .. the old serial number was place on the new one

I can’t say how many I owned , how many I traded .. how many I sold , …probably a dozen at least .. most C9’s
Hipoint has great customer service.. and as far as I have seen great quality control…

I believe you're the first guy I know who collects Hi Points. What do you do with all of them, and what do you get out of them when I assume you own Glocks, M&Ps, and others "higher teir" pistols in the same calibers?

Note: I also heard they are very reliable and have great CS, so I am not bashing anyone for owning them...

 

[Styx]

According to the Hi-Point website, 49oz., about 3.1 lbs. For comparison, a Glock 20 is 28oz, about 1.8lbs. and a Springfield XD-M in 10mm weighs 31oz, about 1.9lbs.

Yea and don't forget they're a lot smaller to boot. I can see the allure of the 10mm option for someone who just wants to get their feet wet with a cheap 10mm plinker. I don't see much of point in buying the other Hi Point calibers when you can get a Taurus G3 series for the same price or only $50 more, a Ruger 9mm for only $50 more, or a Canik for $75-$100 more...

 

[JohnKSa]

There's an argument to be made that there's no such thing as a cheap 10mm plinker. Just 10 boxes of 10mm budget ammo will run around $250.

 

[TTv2]

I will let you be the test dummy lol. This is one pistol that I'd advise to not be a beta tester with. If I were to buy one, I'd at least wait 6 months or so until more data and reviews are out before buying.

I didn't say I was going to buy one and my general rule of thumb after the Charter Professional is wait a full year, maybe 18 months before buying a new to market firearm.

 

[TTv2]

There's an argument to be made that there's no such thing as a cheap 10mm plinker. Just 10 boxes of 10mm budget ammo will run around $250.

And .40 is that much cheaper?

 

[JB111]

Just before Christmas PSA had Taylors & Co (Armscor) 10mm 1911's on sale for under $400. The next week they went up to a touch over $400. Then they were gone.

But thats during a sale, not msrp. I went and looks at taylors & co website and their 10mm is closer to 700 msrp and the same can be said for armscor listing. So the majority of the time it will still be over 500 bucks. The hi point will have an msrp of less than $225 and will probably will be found in store for as low as $175 depending on location. That is a whole new can of worms. Not the best looking gun on the block, but will open the door to the world of 10mm for a lot of new people. I have friends who really enjoy shooting my glock 20 and 40, but due to circumstances in their life, be it a wife, kids, low paying job, lots of bills, etc.. just cant swing five or six hundred bucks for one. But $200, that's more doable.

 

[JohnKSa]

And .40 is that much cheaper?

Well, 10mm ammo is probably about 30%-40% more expensive than .40S&W, but I didn't really have .40S&W in mind as a comparison when I made my earlier comment.

For whatever it's worth, IMO, .40S&W isn't a particularly good choice for a "cheap plinker" either.

 

[TTv2]

Well, 10mm ammo is probably about 30%-40% more expensive than .40S&W, but I didn't really have .40S&W in mind as a comparison when I made my earlier comment.

For whatever it's worth, IMO, .40S&W isn't a particularly good choice for a "cheap plinker" either.

Well, nothing that isn't .22 or 9mm is ever considered a good choice for economical shooting. That's not the point tho, the reason people buy something that isn't 9mm is because it isn't 9mm and they see it has some appeal that makes it worth increased cost. With .32 that's lower recoil leading to more effective accuracy, for 10mm it's more power. .40 is in the same boat, the reason it's chosen over 9mm is the larger, heavier projectile is more powerful and causes more damage leading to greater effect at stopping a threat.

If people are willing to pay that little extra for .40 over 9mm, when wouldn't they also accept paying that little extra for 10mm?

Pre-Covid I was finding 10mm ammo for the same price as .40, but even if it was a buck or two more a box, I can accept that increased cost because of the increased performance. I certainly can't be alone in that assessment.

That said, I don't like overpaying for something that I can do myself, which is why I reload for most every pistol caliber I own... except 9mm cuz that's cheap enough I let others do it for me.