The original post was written by someone who has 4,000+ posts and is a "contributing member" to this website. They're decent guns and a good bang for their buck, but I'm assuming the OP already has multiple semi-auto handguns and I'd also be willing to bet the vast majority of those guns are probably superior to a Hi Point. What's the point of buying a Hi Point other than it cost less than a case of 9mm ammo? I picked up a .40 S&W a number of years ago for cheap and would sell it in a moments notice because it never gets shot. It's not a bad gun, it's just that I have no reason to own it. If I had hours every week to go out and shoot it might get used, but realistically it does nothing for me other than take up space in the safe.
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The original post was written by someone who has 4,000+ posts and is a "contributing member" to this website. They're decent guns and a good bang for their buck, but I'm assuming the OP already has multiple semi-auto handguns and I'd also be willing to bet the vast majority of those guns are probably superior to a Hi Point. What's the point of buying a Hi Point other than it cost less than a case of 9mm ammo? I picked up a .40 S&W a number of years ago for cheap and would sell it in a moments notice because it never gets shot. It's not a bad gun, it's just that I have no reason to own it. If I had hours every week to go out and shoot it might get used, but realistically it does nothing for me other than take up space in the safe.
CajunBass
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I bought one about ten years ago, just to see if they were as "bad" as "everyone" said they were. I put at least a thousand rounds through it, actually I think it was a lot more than that, but it was a long time ago. Out of that total, whatever it was, I remember I had a total of six malfunctions. Four of them came out of one box of reloaded ammo I got at the range. I shot the reloads the range sold (usually they worked just fine) WWB, Rem-UMC, Blazer Brass, and American Eagle. FMJ mostly but did fire a half a box of HP's I had laying around. No problems.
When I got bored with it I sold it, for more than I paid for it, and had a half dozen "buyers" lined up saying they'd take it if the first guy didn't. I should have asked more I guess.
Should you get one? Only you know that. I thought it was a lot of fun. People asked about it, asked to shoot it, a couple went inside and bought one of their own.
When I got bored with it I sold it, for more than I paid for it, and had a half dozen "buyers" lined up saying they'd take it if the first guy didn't. I should have asked more I guess.
Should you get one? Only you know that. I thought it was a lot of fun. People asked about it, asked to shoot it, a couple went inside and bought one of their own.
SwampWolf
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It seems like you answered your own question.
That's it right there.
Hi-Point is an American based firm out of Elyria, Ohio, home of Rigid pipe wrenches and tools. Hi-Point has one of the
best warranties in the business, and top-notch CS. Would that were true for many more expensive manufacturers.
That said, I'd save your money, till you find a use for an inexpensive gun, or pool it with more money, to get something
less bulky, and generally better quality.
best warranties in the business, and top-notch CS. Would that were true for many more expensive manufacturers.
That said, I'd save your money, till you find a use for an inexpensive gun, or pool it with more money, to get something
less bulky, and generally better quality.
BSA1
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I have two co-workers that own High Points. One has the pistol in 9mm and the other owns four carbines (380, 9mm, 40 and 45). He is planning on planning one in 10mm.
My co-worker that owns the pistol is not the smartest pencil in the desk if you know what I mean. The gun keeps surviving his efforts to totally disassemble it and continues to work flawlessly. I have put it back together for him once and told him in the future he would have to send it back to the factory. It is not a easy gun to work on.
My other co-worker is a smart pencil in the desk. Retired LEO gun guy. Loves the Carbine.
Both owners say their High-Points always work which is the basic purpose of a firearm which is to go bang every time you pull the trigger and have enough accuracy to hit the target. I am in middle of buying some land that is going to clean out my savings account so my next couple of future gun purchases could very well be the handgun and carbine in 9mm.
Very affordable, reliable and a no b.s. warranty. What is there not to like?
My co-worker that owns the pistol is not the smartest pencil in the desk if you know what I mean. The gun keeps surviving his efforts to totally disassemble it and continues to work flawlessly. I have put it back together for him once and told him in the future he would have to send it back to the factory. It is not a easy gun to work on.
My other co-worker is a smart pencil in the desk. Retired LEO gun guy. Loves the Carbine.
Both owners say their High-Points always work which is the basic purpose of a firearm which is to go bang every time you pull the trigger and have enough accuracy to hit the target. I am in middle of buying some land that is going to clean out my savings account so my next couple of future gun purchases could very well be the handgun and carbine in 9mm.
Very affordable, reliable and a no b.s. warranty. What is there not to like?
I have both the 9mm and the 9mm carbine, they work. I don't carry either of these, but, i got the pistol for less than $100 out the door on a black friday deal at Cabelas and my wife wanted the carbine so she could have a "rifle" that did not have a lot of recoil in the event the "zombies" come, I have since installed the american flag grips on the C9, got them for Christmas from my son, and removed the magazine safety that prevents firing with no mag (real easy to do).
The biggest issue I have found with fail to feed, has been limp wristing. hold the gun firm, and it fires, ejects and loads fine. you cant limp wrist the C9 or it will have issues.
That said, it makes a good garage, truck, barn, camper or tackle box gun, one I don't worry about getting messed up. Yes, I do have and can afford better guns, I have rugers, sigs, kimbers, etc, but I also had some discretionary funds and like someone above, was curious as to the hype. I did not want to be one of those guys that bash hi-points and had never owned one. Now, I cant really bash them, they are what they are, mine both work. If I only had $100 and needed a gun, it would get the job done, so would a used single shot shotgun, but the hi-point has a higher capacity.
EDIT: One comment though, and this is to highlight a current trend I am seeing, there are a lot of good reliable firearms right now for under $300, and someone the other day said they bought an new Ruger EC9s for $220. So, if inexpensive is your only reason for buying, $150 for a hi-point or $220 for a Ruger, maybe the ruger is a path you could consider. If I had it to do over again, I probably would not have bought the C9, I dont hate it, it just does not get used very often. But an EC9s for $220 or a double stack Security 9 for $300, those would actually be carried and shot more frequently.
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The biggest issue I have found with fail to feed, has been limp wristing. hold the gun firm, and it fires, ejects and loads fine. you cant limp wrist the C9 or it will have issues.
That said, it makes a good garage, truck, barn, camper or tackle box gun, one I don't worry about getting messed up. Yes, I do have and can afford better guns, I have rugers, sigs, kimbers, etc, but I also had some discretionary funds and like someone above, was curious as to the hype. I did not want to be one of those guys that bash hi-points and had never owned one. Now, I cant really bash them, they are what they are, mine both work. If I only had $100 and needed a gun, it would get the job done, so would a used single shot shotgun, but the hi-point has a higher capacity.
EDIT: One comment though, and this is to highlight a current trend I am seeing, there are a lot of good reliable firearms right now for under $300, and someone the other day said they bought an new Ruger EC9s for $220. So, if inexpensive is your only reason for buying, $150 for a hi-point or $220 for a Ruger, maybe the ruger is a path you could consider. If I had it to do over again, I probably would not have bought the C9, I dont hate it, it just does not get used very often. But an EC9s for $220 or a double stack Security 9 for $300, those would actually be carried and shot more frequently.
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I bought a Hi Point CF380 a few years back just because. It has been one of the most reliable handguns i own. I shot the snot out of it, wanted it to malfunction, but it never did.
Decided to buy the 380 carbine to go with it, but it was not in stock at the LGS when i went to buy it, so i got the 9mm instead. It has been just about as good. A few fail to feed the first round, but only when my nephew shoots it?????.
I doubt I will EVER buy another Hi Point handgun, but I an thinking about another carbine, but in 45 acp.
FWIW, I am a huge Ruger fan boi and purchased a PC Carbine as soon as my LGS could get one in. The Ruger had multiple fail to feeds. The Hi Point purred right along.
Decided to buy the 380 carbine to go with it, but it was not in stock at the LGS when i went to buy it, so i got the 9mm instead. It has been just about as good. A few fail to feed the first round, but only when my nephew shoots it?????.
I doubt I will EVER buy another Hi Point handgun, but I an thinking about another carbine, but in 45 acp.
FWIW, I am a huge Ruger fan boi and purchased a PC Carbine as soon as my LGS could get one in. The Ruger had multiple fail to feeds. The Hi Point purred right along.
Whiterook808
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I understand the curiosity and the price is cheap, so not much to lose. I just think the novelty will wear off quickly and it is probably not worth your time.
Monac
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I agree about getting a carbine instead of a pistol. I think if I got a Hi Point, it would be their 10mm carbine, because I think 10mm is a good cartridge, but I am not keen on handguns with heavy recoil and muzzle blast. I should research it.
I recall several years ago at a major national match, Hi-Point had a bay at the range where they were letting shooters try out their carbines. Shooters were, to put it mildly, unimpressed. The guns jammed repeatedly.
Later, Hi-Point put one of their carbines up for auction to raise money to support the shooting sports. No one wanted to bid. Finally, one shooter bid and another and another until the bid was $50. That’s not a typo. Fifty dollars.
The winner didn’t want the gun (he was just making a contribution to the sport) and told Hi-Point they could auction it again. This time there were no bids at all.
It was embarrassing, but you’d think a gun company would try to bring reliable guns to a demonstration. Hi-Point didn’t do that and ended up looking foolish.
Anyway, I have no interest at all in Hi-Point.
Later, Hi-Point put one of their carbines up for auction to raise money to support the shooting sports. No one wanted to bid. Finally, one shooter bid and another and another until the bid was $50. That’s not a typo. Fifty dollars.
The winner didn’t want the gun (he was just making a contribution to the sport) and told Hi-Point they could auction it again. This time there were no bids at all.
It was embarrassing, but you’d think a gun company would try to bring reliable guns to a demonstration. Hi-Point didn’t do that and ended up looking foolish.
Anyway, I have no interest at all in Hi-Point.
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Good enough reason right there. I have a C9 for the same reason. And now I can take a newbie (or seasoned shooter) to range and let them compare the High Point, Glock, S&W M&P, Walther, 1911, etc.
Just for fun.
It will be 9mm since I'm not about to adopt a new cartridge this late in my life.
Over the last 40+ years, I have bought less than 300 rounds of factory ammunition. All the rest has been hand-loaded by me. So, all cases are either brass or nickel-plated brass.
DeadFlies
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Buy it.
The C9 isn’t my favorite (the 45 is quite good) but they’re cheap entertainment, especially if you’re into shadetree gunsmithing.
The C9 isn’t my favorite (the 45 is quite good) but they’re cheap entertainment, especially if you’re into shadetree gunsmithing.
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I've never owned one, but have always heard that they work and the customer service is unparalled. My introduction into the "cheap gun" market was surplus, so that's the route I took, not cheap American brands. Hi Point is different from all the other cheapo US brands, in that they DO work, while the others (Jennings, Bryco etc) don't usually. I think it's because Hi Point "bit the bullet" and completely abandoned aesthetics to guarantee function, while the other cheap brands still tried to halfway make a sleek product (which resulted in both ugly appearance and poor function).
I wouldn't hesitate to use the carbine, I understand it's embarassing how well it holds it's own versus the more expensive 9mm carbines. Mag capacity is the ONLY drawback.
He said it was a bear to take apart, and seemed to be packed with lithium grease inside. And when he called customer service about it, the lady was horrified that he had taken it down to that level ("but why did you do that")
; the guns are apparently designed to work, and have minimal maintenance beyond wiping the bore down (ideally by running a snake through it), and it is meant to work "until it doesn't"- and then you use the warranty to replace it. It's not a range toy, but instead it's a disposable gun that you should get a few thousand rds out of.
Like you said, an interesting and "Soviet" type solution to the gun question.
I wouldn't hesitate to use the carbine, I understand it's embarassing how well it holds it's own versus the more expensive 9mm carbines. Mag capacity is the ONLY drawback.
I read an in-depth review of a Hi Point from someone who owned a lot of guns and won one (he chose the Hi Point on the table because he already had lots of guns, and he was genuinely curious about the ugly duckling he had heard about but never used).
He said it was a bear to take apart, and seemed to be packed with lithium grease inside. And when he called customer service about it, the lady was horrified that he had taken it down to that level ("but why did you do that")
; the guns are apparently designed to work, and have minimal maintenance beyond wiping the bore down (ideally by running a snake through it), and it is meant to work "until it doesn't"- and then you use the warranty to replace it. It's not a range toy, but instead it's a disposable gun that you should get a few thousand rds out of. Like you said, an interesting and "Soviet" type solution to the gun question.
Elm Creek Smith
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One of my friends, the one that can drop $2500.00 on a nice gun in an instant without worrying about making payments on something else, carries a Hi Point 916 with 3 spare magazines. He did a fluff'n'buff on it, so it always works. When I asked him why, he said, "If I have to use it in self defense, I won't worry about it sitting in an evidence locker somewhere. I'll just get another one."
FROGO207
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I bought a half dozen more when O stated that we needed to get rid of the cheap handguns just to spite him. I gave some away as Christmas presents. The CF 380 and two C9's I kept I use for truck guns/loaners to use at the range when I go with friends. They just plain run and run. Wish other brands that look a bit more refined ran as well as they do. For the record none that I have owned have had any problems functioning. YMMV
I gave some away as Christmas presents. The CF 380 and two C9's I kept I use for truck guns/loaners to use at the range when I go with friends. They just plain run and run. Wish other brands that look a bit more refined ran as well as they do. For the record none that I have owned have had any problems functioning. YMMV
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