Hypothetical question when carrying. What to do.
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Plan2Live
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Well, so much for trying to shift the scenario to another likely scenario not involving banks.
As for the backlash against banks and the no gun signs. All I can say is it must be nice living in Texas. If you refused to do business with any bank or credit union around here that displays no gun signs then you would be operating with cash only. Do you have a major credit card issued by a mega bank? Do their physical locations prohibit legal carry? Probably. Do you still carry their card?
In my area (and I won't get anymore specific than that) I know of one bank branch that was forced by corporate to post a no gun sign. There are two entrances. Corporate supplied one sign. This was intentionally not brought to corporate's attention. The one sign was placed on the least used door and not in the direct line of sight. That's the best the local folks could do in protest and still comply with corporate policy. So if you don't do business with all businesses that display the signs you might be harming gun friendly employees too. And those gun friendly employees will probably follow a Don't Ask Don't Tell protocol if you go about your business and don't push the issue.
As for the backlash against banks and the no gun signs. All I can say is it must be nice living in Texas. If you refused to do business with any bank or credit union around here that displays no gun signs then you would be operating with cash only. Do you have a major credit card issued by a mega bank? Do their physical locations prohibit legal carry? Probably. Do you still carry their card?
In my area (and I won't get anymore specific than that) I know of one bank branch that was forced by corporate to post a no gun sign. There are two entrances. Corporate supplied one sign. This was intentionally not brought to corporate's attention. The one sign was placed on the least used door and not in the direct line of sight. That's the best the local folks could do in protest and still comply with corporate policy. So if you don't do business with all businesses that display the signs you might be harming gun friendly employees too. And those gun friendly employees will probably follow a Don't Ask Don't Tell protocol if you go about your business and don't push the issue.
Mrcymstr
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Yes sir, the fact that I said bank had nothing to do with my hypothetical. It could have just as easily read grocery store.
As for some of the other questions. In Tennessee you must have an HCP to open carry. And yes the signs do carry the weight of law. There is some debate (since there has never been a test case to my knowledge) as to whether the sign must be worded in any particular way.
Thank you all for all your answers. (Even the ones that strayed off topic and got hung up on the whole bank thing.
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Deltaboy1984
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My Banking is done online and with auto deposit. My bank has a non descript gunbuster sign but no Legal 30-06 signage. Our County Judges have sided with gun owners on this much to many businesses dismay.
The Man With No Name
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You are right. I don't believe in credit so only have one credit card. I will check online some and make sure they aren't anti-gun. If they are I will get rid of it.
As far as hurting employees I guess that could be a consequence. Frankly I live in the United States and have the right still to leave a job where things go on that bother my conscience. They have the same rights so if they are hurt by responsible gun owners choosing to do business elsewhere then that is their own fault.
1911 guy
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I have the advantage of living in a small town in the middle of "corn country". Very rural and very "Mayberry" town. I like it. A lot. There isn't a business intown (including the bank) that's posted.
Having said that, I have had to divest myself of some hardware on acassion when going to places I couldn't get out of. Like the time I went from work to report a stolen vehicle. Pulled into the cop shop, popped my trunk and began putting stuff in the trunk. When I got to the front door, the nice policeman asked what I was doing. I said "putting my CCW in the trunk. Along with my knives, flashlight, reloads and baton." He laughed and asked "Where the %$#@ do you work?"
Having said that, I have had to divest myself of some hardware on acassion when going to places I couldn't get out of. Like the time I went from work to report a stolen vehicle. Pulled into the cop shop, popped my trunk and began putting stuff in the trunk. When I got to the front door, the nice policeman asked what I was doing. I said "putting my CCW in the trunk. Along with my knives, flashlight, reloads and baton." He laughed and asked "Where the %$#@ do you work?"
thefamcnaj
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I agree.
I'm lucky on the banking situation though. Suntrust has a branch in my local Bilo grocery store. The grocery store is not posted, the bank is in the middle of the store with no door therefore its not posted either.
That is why I do my business at sun trust. How ever I don't know if the stand alone branches are posted or not.
If I did find myself in the op's situation, I'd clear the gun and take the magazine and the round I took from the chamber with me inside. I'd leave the fire arm in the dash, in SC the dash or center console is fine to leave/transport a fire arm in.
sansone
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last year I made a choice to carry a LCP instead of my "better" gun for situations like yours. It is truly concealed at all times so certain merchants that post a sign can be ignored. The usual places that are truly inappropriate for firearms are respected.
lobo9er
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only one bank in my area that has the "no guns" sign HSBC. I don't do business with them.
Different states have different rules. When making deposits, I always had my gun, in NY, the bank president knew because he wrote a letter as part of the procedure to get a permit in NY. You can't worry about every little thing. No one is going to know unless you tell them, Either that, or remove the slide and leave the frame in the car, or drop the mag, be creative.
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Lex Luthier
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I have carried inside our old bank, and our new credit union. No signs, no problems, especially when transferring the contents from safe deposit boxes.
Deanimator
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That would be the proper solution in Ohio as well, with the proviso that any magazines or speedloaders left in the vehicle with the non-licensed person would also have to be unloaded. If you carried them into the posted business, they would not have to be, and there is no ban on carrying ammunition (or loading devices) into a posted facility.
MICHAEL T
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1 I try never to go where my pistol can't . 2 I would stop using other people and learn to drive .
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