I Tore My Gunrange Membership Card

[patrick526]

Never again that I will go back at Shoot Straight Casselberry, FL! Today, another shooting incident has occurred at that gunrange after the suicide-murder that happened there 3 weeks ago. I hate to hate the place because the staff there are all nice and friendly, however, I am more concerned about the clients/people coming in there. I think I really have to lay low in shooting and just find another place to shoot in the future.

Here's the link to the news: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/042709_Another_shooting_at_gun_range

 

[Animal Mother]

So you are blaming the range for two crazy people?

I think you are placing blame on the wrong people, the people who own the range are the victims here.

 

[outerlimit]

They had a wrongful death lawsuit filed against them for the first incident on April 5th, when it was very clear from security footage and witnesses that the mother shot her son in the back of the head before killing herself.

Amazing..

 

[patrick526]

No am not blaming the place and staff. Like I said, they are really nice. It's the crazy people that always go there is my big concern.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Surely they did nothing to encourage or allow these kooks and their copycats to commit these acts, and you certainly did not. Please reconsider.

 

[edelbrock]

Wow that sucks for the range owners and the people that work there. I bet a lot of people will defect from that place. The owners and employees really are the victims.

 

[kyo]

I don't blame you. You are doing what you think is right, so be it

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

If you feel "creeped out" by going to and using a facility that someone used to off themselves, I can understand it.

 

[patrick526]

Thanks for understanding guys. The Shoot Straight Cassellberry gunrange is really a small nice place. Aside from their low prices, the staff are all friendly and very helpful. However, why do crazy people nowadays commit their crimes there is beyond my apprehension! I just wanted to be on the safe side. I don't want to be there or even become a victim if another crazy person shows up and start doing some crazy things. The first crime at that range really creeps me out (mother shooting the son), because I'm there on that day and just went home because I am perspiring a lot inside the range. After leaving the place for an hour, the crime happened! I thanked God so much that I left early, because if am not perspiring that time, I will stay and probably saw the whole crime myself.

 

[Guitargod1985]

Aside from their low prices, the staff are all friendly and very helpful

I'm sorry, but I have to vehemently disagree with you on this. Their prices are routinely $200 or more above MSRP. That's not what I'd call cheap.

I used to buy guns at Shoot Straight, when I was younger and uninformed. After purchasing an HK P2000SK there for upwards of $1000 and realizing that they raped me, I'll never go back.

 

[Bobarino]

i hate to be the one to break this to you but you can't escape being around crazy people. you'll find them at whatever range you choose to use in the future too. they are everywhere you go. the physical location of the range or it's name make no difference. there will always be someone you'll run into at a range that will make you uncomfortable, sometimes enough so to pack up and leave. it's just something we all have to deal with. if you like the staff, the range and prices, i'd suggest staying a loyal customer of theirs. besides, now the odds are strongly against something like this happening again for a very long time.

Bobby

 

[Bill2e]

Join a real gun club, not an indoor shooting range. They cost more, but are worth it.

Check out Seminole Gun & Archery, Eustis Gun Club, Chilota Shooting & there is one near Moss park. One of them has to wrok for you, your call.

I stopped shooting at SS a while ago.

However I find it hard to blame SS for this one.

 

[ZO6Vettever]

He could have rented an Avis car and whacked a bridge abutment at 100 miles per hour. Would it have been Avis fault?

 

[Seenterman]

Cant blame the shop but

I wouldnt go to a range I didn't feel safe at. If crazy people keep going there and doing crazy things, I wouldnt go their eathier.

Wasn't that mother banned from that range before off'ing herself and son for pulling something crazy? Early reports said something to that nature but I heard nothing of it since.

 

[SpecialKalltheway]

just don't lie when people ask if you are superstitious now, by saying "no that stuff is silly."

"The general root of superstition is that men observe when things hit, and not when they miss, and commit to memory the one, and pass over the other."
- Francis Bacon, quoted in 2000 Years of Disbelief, by James A. Haught.

you are doing what everyman has the right to do, you are making yourself feel comfortable. Nothing wrong with that.

I do send my regards to the range and workers though and do agree they are the real victims in all of this.

 

[Afy]

The crazies will always find a way to off themselves.

I feel for the guy lost his wife and kid, but I think a lawsuit against the range is indicative of what is wrong with the system.

 

[outerlimit]

Wasn't that mother banned from that range before off'ing herself and son for pulling something crazy?

Yes, I read that in another story. That's probably where the lawsuit comes in. I'm sure the husband or father or whatever he is, is claiming that she "never should have been there" or some such thing.

 

[rmt22]

it does seem that indoor ranges attract a CERTAIN type where a skeet/gun club will be safer and promote a better experience. So +1 for finding a better place

 

[larry_minn]

Why tear up your range membership? I understand they will no longer be renting guns UNTIL they can do background checks on customers who want to rent a gun... (Or they already have a gun/are with a member/person who has a firearm)
Talk to range and have "members/thier family only" shooting times. I have rented a few guns in other states when due to situation I can't bring my guns along. Many have waved requirements if I show my carry permit.

 

[patrick526]

I am definitely going back there probably... but not at the present. I'll let it pass through time until good people show up again at that place. I'll miss that place. I remember the good 'ol bonding of families from parents to kids, shooting there at weekends just to have fun.... sighhh Now, all of that is gone!

 

[Ned Kelly]

"You like to live in a calm, nice neighborhood, and it brings fear to the place. People don't want to live here," said neighbor Hilda Colon. She and her son, Andrew, can't believe this is the second shooting inside in a matter of weeks. "I'm a gun owner myself, and to me there needs to be something done, because this is getting out of hand," said Andrew Colon. "It's getting out of control. I don't know what can be done, but something needs to happen."

What does he mean by something needs to be done?


This idealogy is what is going to take our freedoms away. Why do people feel that restricting peoples freedoms will make the world a safer place?

Perhaps we should all just sit back in a recliner with a mouse and keyboard with a feeding tube in one end and an excrement tube and catheter in the other. Locked in a concrete room with no windows.

 

[Eric F]

Well my thoughts, I think my safety may be at a more elevated level of risk for this particular range. There is a range here that attracts suicides also. Thothing can be done about it but I dont want to be in the next lane shooting when some one puts a 500 magnum to their head and lets one go. The bullet will surly come straight to me. I would just find a diffrent range for a while and see if that activity cools off. I would not blame staff or even the range, this was more than likely a copy cat thing and like here at this local range by my home it will continue to happen there.

 

[KevinAbbeyTech]

This idealogy is what is going to take our freedoms away.

I agree, you can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws.

 

[MagnumDweeb]

Hey seriously buddy, these last two suicides were by no means the first. One of the original owners who sold his share works out at my gym and we've shared horror storries. Shoot Straight can expect two to three suicides a year. Thank god no one goes nuts and starts shooting other people. Not to mention last year when a "CCW" instructor shot himself in the kidney and died waiting for the ambulances.

Cousin of mine has a partial ownership in an open range in Miami. Every year they get three or four suicides. Most people don't realize how often gun ranges get used for suicides, granted for the longest time the news hadn't taken notice. But now with all the gun purchases, I guess any suicide deserves attention. I rarely go alone to Shoot Straight, actually I rarely go to Shoot Straight and I can walk there. You know the Publix with the Blockbuster and Anthony's pizza, I live on that lake behind there, but still I drive to Sanford when it is free once a month on the first sunday of the month. It is a drive but it's open air, I get my students done on their shooting qualification(I'm an NRA certified pistol instructor), and I can collect a lot of free brass.

I don't hold the kindest opinon for the folks at Shoot Straight but I've likely had a far different experience, it's better than nothing if you like cramped spaces with lots of newb shooters forgetting the three (and fourth) rules. If you own your own gun and know what you are doing, it's an acceptable place.

 

[Aw4g63]

I heard about this earlier today from a buddy that lives by there.

I feel your pain. I have a range 10 minutes from my house but every time I went there it was full of people from the ghetto and kids. Now I'm only 27 but most of the people I've seen there in my age range and lower seemed to be lacking basic common sense.

I've told the range officer about things I see but I end up feelling like a rat instead of feeling like I've saved someones life.

Now, I drive an hour to a range out in the middle of no where. I've only seen one guy break a rule and it was such a small violation. He stepped over the yellow line during a cease fire to grab his drink. Not a huge safety issue.

Go find a range that is safe. Heavy traffic, public ranges are dangerous. But they serve as great traps for knowledgeable knewbs that are a danger to the people around them.