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Ruger's recent releases of unexciting "new" products got a lot of us brainstorming and a number of cool ideas were floated for guns that don't currently exist. It might be interesting to float those ideas again. Who knows, in an ideal world we could be taking the first step to proving there is a market for guns that aren't bottom run, plastic stocked bolt action rifles, polymer auto pistols, and ARs, ARs ARs and more ARs.

The top 3 guns I wish someone would make are:

1. A scout rifle-esque bolt action chambered in 7.62x54R. It would be kind of like a short barreled Mosin, only with some mind paid to the comfort of the shooter. I could see having a fixed, 10 round magazine that loads via stripper clip with a hinged floor plate for quick unloading. Giving credit where credit is due, another member here floated an idea similar to this. I thought it was interesting so I ran with it.

2. A PCC in 10mm auto that can share magazines with popular auto pistols chambered in the same round.

3. Pump action carbines chambered in popular magnum revolver rounds. It would be nice if care was taken to eliminate the fore end rattle that is endemic to pup shotguns.

So, those are the three guns I'd like to see made that never will be.
 
A Ruger Mini Thirty that as a proper bore size, uses AK magazines; and has a stripper clip guide on the ejection port.
 
I know that the logistics of this would be problematic but I think a bottom eject lever action would be pretty sweet. Minimally, a side eject with some kind of rail or slide that directs the shell down instead of 17' to the right of the shooter.
 
I just want a US made Dragunov clone in 7.62x54r. I think if it was made well and under $1200, they'd sell a decent amount of them. Now that veprs are no longer importable, there aren't any other new production semi automatic rifles that fire the round available to civilians.

I think the M44 is still too cheap and available to make a "scout" in 7.62x54r make sense.
 
akv3g4n said:
I just want a US made Dragunov clone in 7.62x54r. I think if it was made well and under $1200, they'd sell a decent amount of them. Now that veprs are no longer importable, there aren't any other new production semi automatic rifles that fire the round available to civilians.

I think the M44 is still too cheap and available to make a "scout" in 7.62x54r make sense.
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Except that Mosins are just plain uncomfortable to hold, carry, and shoot, have a terrible safety, and no way to mount an optic that isn't ungainly.
 
I don't know why any mainstream American gun maker would make anything chambered in what is essentially a foreign mil-surp round like the 7.62x54 here in the US. Especially when current American "mil-surp" rounds are still in production.

Even Ruger didn't bring out their new GSR or American Ranch in 7.62x39, which I really would have liked them to do.

Plus, I still don't know when the last time a non-military (commercial) based rifle was made with the receiver cut for stripper clips. Anyone know?

I really don't know people that use stripper clips except for mil-surp aficionados. I have stripper clips, but I hardly use them. It seems they are good for dropping a round when I pull them out of a pouch. Magpul should do something about that. ;)
 
I would buy the Mini 30 being discussed here in a heartbeat.

I don't think a scout rifle in 7.62x54R would do well at all. You'd be competing with $150 Mosins, which would be a pretty tough sell. Maybe it could work in 308, but there's a few rifles that are already like that.

For a new idea, how about some kind of SKS-lite Ban Buster special? Chamber it in 223 and 5.45x39 in addition to 7.62x39, lighten it up, and shorten the barrel to 16 inches. Keep the internal 10 round mag and straight wood stock, and remove any potentially evil features like the bayonet lug. Then we'd have a AWB-proof semi auto, that isn't based on a limited supply of imported rifles.
 
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I wish Surefire would make their MR07 mount so the Xseries bolted to it. This would (should) place the switch just below the centerline of the trigger, like the Dawson setup did, instead of a lot below the centerline, like all the other add on rails, and the (revised) Colt Rail Gun.

I like the Mini30 suggestion... Magazine availability was one reason I walked away from one.
 
I wish someone would make bolt action rifles with front sight and rear aperture in standard and short actions and also drilled and tapped for mounts.
 
Anything modern that's not a bolt action but has a wood stock...I would even settle for a wooden AR provided somebody made all the bits function but still hold a touch of class, and avoid that aggravating tuning fork type spring that goes sproioiiing for about an hour after each shot.
 
I would like to see a stainless steel pump .44 Mag carbine (16"), using a rotary box magazine that holds six to eight rounds, sturdy plastic stock that side-folds, tritium ghost ring sights, a secure way to mount a light, and proper sling mounting options. The end of the barrel should have a flash hider. The stock should be able to securely hold a pair of loaded mags in addition.
I would easily pay $1500 for such a weapon.
 
I think a 10mm PCC, either locked breech or at the very least delayed-blowback, figures very high in the list. But 223 is just a wee bit more powerful and so much cheaper and more available it'll never see the light of day. The 'popularity' of 10mm DI uppers is testament to this sad, lamentable fact.

Doesn't mean I don't want one, though.

On the pistol front, the obvious need/lack is a 1911-ish or Glock-ish platform capable of holding 7.62x25. Not only to revitalize the dying Tok front, but to accommodate a whole new world of "slightly longer than 45ACP" cartridges that would dominate in the world of modern ported handguns.

TCB
 
A 9 or 10rd revolver in .32mag or .327mag, with light rail as a home defense gun.

Smith came close with a .357 but I would like more ammo and no lock which Smith defiled theirs with.
 
How about a ten round magazine for the ruger american rifle? That would be a miniscule cost to engineer and make their recent releases in that line of rifles much more appealing.
 
Mosin Bubba said:
I would buy the Mini 30 being discussed here in a heartbeat.

I don't think a scout rifle in 7.62x54R would do well at all. You'd be competing with $150 Mosins, which would be a pretty tough sell. Maybe it could work in 308, but there's a few rifles that are already like that.
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7.62x54R is the cheapest centerfire ammo in its power class, even for new production, JSP stuff.

Yes, there are still $150 Mosins available, but as I pointed out earlier, they have all the ergonomics of a rough cut beam, an inconvenient safety, and no good option for mounting an optic.

Instead of stripper clips, a detachable magazine could be used. I just kind of like the idea of a quick reloading option without having to buy a bunch of magazines.
 
Remake the colt 1903 pistol with a modern mag release (mags for new would work with old)
- - I'll take one in .32acp AND .380acp, please
- - - - or knock the semirim off the .32acp and make a longer more powerful round of ~0.3" diameter (I call this round .33BFD and have ideas to expand on it - any wildcatters want to start a wacky project?)

More PCC in all common chamberings that take standard mags (XD45 mags? XD9 mags? 1911 mags?)
- - Failing that, Mech-Tech can get onboard with XD kits (I like my 1911 MechTech CCU)

More stubby grip / midlength barrel carry guns (the 1911 CCO is about ideal)
- - come on, even Springfield is doing it now, everyone should be onboard with guns tailored for IWB carry

Make me a semiauto carbine in .22tcm and make it share mags with the pistol
- - M1carbine ergonomics and styling ideal, but I'd suck it up and use AR ergos if I had to

Gatling gun in common pistol cartridges
- - a year ago this would have been "in .22lr", but maybe that ship has sailed

Handguns in Tokarev
- - and modern ammo in Tok or some similar round, perhaps .33BFD
 
A reliable, faithful reproduction of the Mauser C96 pistol chambered in 9mm, maybe a "red nine" version, that wouldn't break the bank. Say MSRP of $1500 or so.

That, for me, would be the mecha of firearms heaven on cloud nine during nirvana!
 
splithoof said:
I would like to see a stainless steel pump .44 Mag carbine (16"), using a rotary box magazine that holds six to eight rounds, sturdy plastic stock that side-folds, tritium ghost ring sights, a secure way to mount a light, and proper sling mounting options. The end of the barrel should have a flash hider. The stock should be able to securely hold a pair of loaded mags in addition.
I would easily pay $1500 for such a weapon.
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I like the idea of a pump action .44 carbine but I wish everything you stated except in a Ruger Deer Field... For that matter, I wish they would bring it back into production or make another .44 mag semi auto rifle.
 
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