I wish someone would make . . .

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readyeddy said:
The nice thing about a 10mm in a 16" carbine barrel is the big case full of slower burning powder. This should translate to a significant increase in velocity with the longer barrel. 9mm not so much.
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From what I've read in the rimfire/pistol caliber forum at arfcom, 10mm doesn't gain much.
 
jeffmack said:
Polymer framed, striker fired Tokarev with modern safety features.
Powerful, decent capacity, light weight, and thin for CCW.
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I'd be in for that, although striker/hammer fire isn't a priority for me.
But an XD45 action would fit that case length, I think......
 
Jason_W said:
Ruger's recent releases of unexciting "new" products got a lot of us brainstorming and a number of cool ideas were floated for guns that don't currently exist. It might be interesting to float those ideas again. Who knows, in an ideal world we could be taking the first step to proving there is a market for guns that aren't bottom run, plastic stocked bolt action rifles, polymer auto pistols, and ARs, ARs ARs and more ARs.

The top 3 guns I wish someone would make are:

1. A scout rifle-esque bolt action chambered in 7.62x54R. It would be kind of like a short barreled Mosin, only with some mind paid to the comfort of the shooter. I could see having a fixed, 10 round magazine that loads via stripper clip with a hinged floor plate for quick unloading. Giving credit where credit is due, another member here floated an idea similar to this. I thought it was interesting so I ran with it.

2. A PCC in 10mm auto that can share magazines with popular auto pistols chambered in the same round.

3. Pump action carbines chambered in popular magnum revolver rounds. It would be nice if care was taken to eliminate the fore end rattle that is endemic to pup shotguns.

So, those are the three guns I'd like to see made that never will be.
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Never shot one myself but Uberti does make a pump rifle chambered in .45 colt or .357, replica of the Colt Lighting. http://www.uberti.com/lightning-rifle
 
The 10mm is mainstream in that all major manufacturers produce it. It's not as popular as the 9mm, .40, or .45 ACP, but it is the only mainstream semi-auto pistol round that enters power realm of the magnum revolver rounds and can thus pull double duty as a self defense round and medium game hunting round.
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Well we have a different definition of main stream I guess. Main stream to me is major pistol manufacturers like Ruger and S&W making at least one model for that cartridge. Also when you consider that 10 mm is about twice as expensive as 45 acp or 9 mm I think that will doom a new PCC model. I could be wrong about that and it certainly would be cool if someone would actually build one and test the market. I might just sell one of my carbines and buy one. 40 cal bullets are cheap. ;)
 
"bigfatdave," you may be on to something.
A 7.62x25 conversion barrel for an XDs 9mm would be the cat's pajamas.
 
I stand corrected.
I was thinking about all the 9mm Norincos, but you are right: the .45acp is closer in length than the 9mm
 
"I don't know why any mainstream American gun maker would make anything chambered in what is essentially a foreign mil-surp round like the 7.62x54 here in the US. Especially when current American "mil-surp" rounds are still in production. "

RED DAWN !!!!!!!!!
 
I would go for a 10ga SxS coach gun. 10mm PCC is definitely an interest. Maybe a pump or lever action big bore in 460 and 500 S&W. Impractical? Who cares... I'd buy it.
 
David4516 said:
You'll laugh at this, but I'd like to see a rifle chambered in .25 ACP. With .22LR being nearly impossible to find, I can reload .25 ACP for my small caliber needs.
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I'm not laughing, I've thought the same thing. Especially considering recent trends reloading .25 acp might be cheaper than .22LR sometimes. Garyhan's idea for a .327 lever gun would be super cool too, either could be a sweet small game and plinking gun.

I think an otherwise historically correct 9mm lever action would have some commercial potential. Dunno about where you guys are but 9mm costs at least 30% less than .38 locally.
 
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I think an otherwise historically correct 9mm lever action would have some commercial potential. Dunno about where you guys are but 9mm costs at least 30% less than .38 locally.
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I can get Fed brass for $13 locally but .38 SPL costs $22, that's 41% cheaper! I can get aluminum cased or steel cased 9mm for $10, about 55% cheaper. With .38 SPL at such low pressures I can't believe I can't find .38 SPL in aluminum or steel cased ammo. What is wrong with the ammo makers? I would gladly pay $14 to $16 for cheap .38 SPL practice ammo!
 
I think a 10 shot .327 magnum built on a redhawk frame and a lever action chambered in the same would be really cool. Also, just a good inexpensive bolt action with good iron sights? Also, some kind of bolt action .44 magnum that doesn't have as restrictive OAL limits as the Ruger offerings.. Perhaps feeding from a tube mag like a lever gun... Just spitballing :)
 
I don't really have any unique ideas for the thread. Most of the things I would want have been made at some point at least and are just discontinued...


I agree that the .327 lever gun idea is neat. If somebody had gotten on board with that early on, the caliber's history may possibly have gone a little differently.

I'd like to see a Savage model 24 styled combination gun in .223/12 ga (again) and .357/12 ga (I think the original was 20 gauge). I think those would be some handy guns that would have a little more versatility than the typical small-game offerings you mostly saw with model 24s. Would much rather it be wood stocked; I have a couple of great Savage rifles but I find their current model 42 very aesthetically challenged.

I'd also like to see S&W make the model 317 with a steel cylinder. I ended up with one of these due to some custom work and it's a great little kit gun. At the cost of a couple ounces, probably would be a good idea to go ahead and make the barrel true stainless (rather than a steel sleeve under aluminum), like the model 642. I think that would be a real winner.
 
Sherman! Set the Wayback Machine for 1937-38.
Back then, Mossberg made a grand total of 201 left-handed, bolt-action .22 rifles featuring a tubular magazine. Apparently, this was a huge mistake, because no manufacturer has attempted this stunt again to this very day!
In my dreams, I'd like to see a left-handed, bolt-action .22 rifle with a tubular magazine in the buttstock. These magazines were once popular in semi-autos like the Browning SA-22 and Remington Nylon 66, among others.
Why wouldn't a buttstock-fed tube mag work in a bolt-action .22 rifle?
I'd settle for an under-the-barrel tube mag, but I sorta like free-floating the barrels of my bolt rifles.
 
M1 Carbine in various pistol caliber chambering (9mm, 40S&W, 10mm, 45ACP)

Bull pup, semi auto, rifles and shotguns, fully ambidextrous (or at least lefty friendly) for under $1000, closer to the $750 range.
 
readyeddy said:
The nice thing about a 10mm in a 16" carbine barrel is the big case full of slower burning powder. This should translate to a significant increase in velocity with the longer barrel. 9mm not so much.
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My 9mm Camp Carbine adds almost 300fps with Titewad, one of the fastest powders available.

Even if it didn't gain a single fps I would still love a 10mm carbine that accepted Glock mags. I know the Mech Tech is available but it's way too heavy and doesn't have a safety. I want a safety on a Glock carried outside a holster.
 
it's because the biggest problem with 10mm is that people keep putting it in autoloading pistols. Same issue as what faced the 30 carbine, when they stopped putting it in rifles and pretended it was a pistol round due to relative power levels. If/when SBRs are retired from the NFA, I think 10mm will enter a golden age.

I was going to add 357 top break revolver, since that's always a popular fantasy, but instead I'll go with 8-shot 10mm top break auto-revolver fed by moon clips :evil:

TCB
 
gpurp said:
Surprised at the number of times 10mm is being mentioned here.
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For what it is, it's a great cartridge. I am not one who thinks 10 mm is thermonuclear, but rather it's a medium size cartridge that is easy to reload and load light .40SW or fairly hot with decent bullet price and selection. All pretty good in a carbine or handgun.
 
basically it's a plinking level 357 (or a bit more w/ handloading) that is tons easier to feed from a magazine
 
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