I won't own a gun that won't function with any ammo I feed it

[Jeb Stuart]

I have heard of the years some internet poster say "I won't own a gun that won't function with any ammo I feed it". This phrase usually comes after some owner posted a failure with a certain ammo or just a a malfunction.
Is there really a gun made that will actually feed any recent ammo made, no matter what the quality? Would you get rid of a gun simply because it did not feed a certain ammo? Sounds like a ridiculous statement, but you know the internet.

 

[rpenmanparker]

Uh, oh!

 

[JohnKSa]

I've got one pistol that is very picky. So far I haven't found any ammo at all that it will work with...

 

[jonnyc]

Whoever said that must not own many .22 semis.

 

[sequins]

I won't own a gun that is generally unreliable but if it chokes on lacquered steel cases yet never drops a beat on American brass I'm not too concerned.

Never say never

 

[Fine Figure of a Man]

Is there really a gun made that will actually feed any recent ammo made, no matter what the quality?

Probably not but I think there are many that will feed any quality ammo.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Probably not but I think there are many that will feed any quality ammo.

Uhhhhhhh.....revolvers!

But seriously, if I buy a gun that will only function reliably with one or two specific brands/bullets, it will end up going down the road, and I won't own any gun just for looks or collectability- each and every one must function well enough with commonly available ammo to be trusted in a SD scenario.

 

[rpenmanparker]

Uhhhhhhh.....revolvers!

Based on the name, I’m guessing that is a kind of gun that goes around instead of back and forth. Is that right?

 

[jmorris]

I have heard of the years some internet poster say "I won't own a gun that won't function with any ammo I feed it".

That’s silly, some ammo is garbage. There are a number of sources of ammo that isn’t functional in any gun.

 

[Zerodefect]

There's a reason certain ammo is banned at busy training centers. Too much time gets wasted to gummed up pistols shooting gooey russian steel cased stuff.

If a pistol feeds Federal, S&B, Blazer, American Eagle, perfectly fine. Then it's GTG.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Based on the name, I’m guessing that is a kind of gun that goes around instead of back and forth. Is that right?

Some even go around and back and forth! The '95 Nagant and Webley auto revolver come to mind.....

 

[GAF]

I once owned A FEG APK that would only function 100% with aluminum case ammo.
I kept it and carried it. One day I dropped it on the concrete pad at the range. From that
day forward It functioned 100% with brass cased ammo too.

 

[Tommygunn]

I once owned A FEG APK that would only function 100% with aluminum case ammo.
I kept it and carried it. One day I dropped it on the concrete pad at the range. From that
day forward It functioned 100% with brass cased ammo too.

I wish I could fix my computer doing that ......

 

[kcofohio]

I wish I could fix my computer doing that ......

A many of times I wanted to "fix it" that way.

 

[Riomouse911]

I’ve seen lots of posts that say they wouldn’t use ammo/gun combo X for self defense if it wasn’t 100% reliable... but that’s common sense. I would hope that all of us onTHR take the time to find good combos before trusting it to protect outselves and our families.

Lots of my guns have had hiccups over the years; some ammo related, some gun related, some magazine related and others operator related. If I tossed every gun onto the scrap heap that balked when I was shooting, I sure would have a lot fewer guns to play with.

Stay safe!

 

[montanaoffroader]

If it's strictly a range toy, I will tolerate it being picky about ammo. If it's a hunting or self defense gun, not so much. If I depend on it to do a job, it needs to function with a reasonably wide range of ammo.

 

[Mn Fats]

Would you get rid of a gun simply because it did not feed a certain ammo?

That would eliminate every single semi .22lr I own. So no.

Sounds like a ridiculous statement, but you know the internet.

I agree. I've never heard anyone say that before now. Seems a little drastic. I'd say "I won't own a gun that doesn't function with most of the ammo I feed it." Not just a brand or two.

 

[Ignition Override]

Zerodefect: My CZ 75D PCR, Sig P228 and of course Makarovs and AKs function well with Russian steel ammo. I've never seen any "gooey stuff", whatever that is.
You might check the LuckyGunner's Very detailed evaluation I describe below.

But "Forged", in the brown/black box, by Winchester? That's the only steel ammo I've ever used which caused frequent problems, and in the CZ and German-proofed Sigs it is like junk.

When the Very lazy guys use lots of steel for a while (no cleaning), they often don't realize that rigid cases allow gunk to build up around the cases--because they don't have enough gun respect to often clean--and then switching to expandable brass, cases bulge into the accumulated chamber residue and can have problems.

**Luckygunner's "Brass vs. Steel-Cased Ammo, Epic Torture Tests" (2013) in ARs, including very detailed gas port pressure and chamber pressure curves/charts with various ammo, are quite interesting.
Lacquer melting? ......Nope.....Some of their guns were too hot to touch, yet lacquer-coated ammo still extracted very well.

 

[tarosean]

Lots of my guns have had hiccups over the years; some ammo related, some gun related, some magazine related and others operator related. If I tossed every gun onto the scrap heap that balked when I was shooting, I sure would have a lot fewer guns to play with.

Winner winner chicken dinner....

Shoot em enough and they will all malfunction at one point. The guns that I own that have not malfunctioned, simply haven't been shot enough.

 

[Trey Veston]

I guess I've been lucky or I just don't buy guns that don't have a reputation of being reliable, but I've never had a gun that refused to work with a certain type of normal commercial ammunition.

Wait, strike that. I have a Ruger 22/45 Lite that had issues with Remington Hornet ammo. But it's a tack driver and Remington .22 ammo is generally garbage, IMHO.

 

[mjsdwash]

I once owned A FEG APK that would only function 100% with aluminum case ammo.
I kept it and carried it. One day I dropped it on the concrete pad at the range. From that
day forward It functioned 100% with brass cased ammo too.

Love the APK, always worked with everything from the start, and when I dropped it, all I got was a gouge. Wish FEG made it big in the US. I lost an extractor, and it took over a year to find a replacement (Walther parts didn't quite work).

 

[Deanimator]

My Giles .38 Special M1911 ONLY works with flush seated wadcutters. You can't even load anything else into the magazine.

I guess I'd better swap it for $100 at the next Cleveland buyback...

 

[Old Dog]

I must be in the minority, for I've sold or traded off every gun I've ever owned that had issues with any ammo they were fed ...excepting, yes, the .22 semi-autos, pistols and rifles.

But if it's a centerfire handgun, if it's a picky eater, I don't want it.

Is there really a gun made that will actually feed any recent ammo made, no matter what the quality?

Yes. Every SIG P-series I've ever owned, every Beretta pistol except one, every CZ pistol, and 12 of my current 14 1911s ...

By the way, for all you American Eagle fans, we've bought pallets of that in .223 for training over the last couple of years, and had major problems with several production runs. NOT a fan ...

At any rate, to answer the OP, it is NOT a ridiculous statement.

 

[rskent]

"I won't own a gun that won't function with any ammo I feed it"

If you are talking about a gun that the manufacturer recommends a certain brand or type, I agree. If the gun needs a little work to get it going I would rather just fix it.

I've got one pistol that is very picky. So far I haven't found any ammo at all that it will work with.

I have always wondered who bought cut out guns.

 

[armoredman]

I have one - my Trash Panda AR-15 does not like my regular reloads, won't chamber them reliably. I bought small base dies and that seemed to do the trick. Factory ammo, no problem, and the Bear Creek Arsenal barrel in it does a pretty good job putting them where I want the to go.