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I think Hi-Point makes one.
Is there such a thing as a full size .380?
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bigfatdave
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Hi-Point makes a full size, double stack, all steel auto in .380 ACP?
Tomcat47
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Taurus PT58 HC
I have the PT58 HC and really enjoy this gun. I bought two of these for me and the wife some time back. I was looking for an all steel pistol as well.
I carry the SS version and love the way this gun handles, shoots, and carries. At first it seems too large but I found a holster at wildbills that fits like a glove and hugs your hip at a slight forward tilt and even with a loose shirt in summer it is not noticed.
I like the Beretta Cheeta, The Browning BDA on this thread is beautiful.
I chose the Taurus because of Platform, Material, and HC ( High Capacity ) I carry 2 clips (40 Rounds )
It is a great gun! The Walther P99 Holster Fits great.
Here is a previous thread RE: Holsters with pics in the Holster ( Post # 17 )
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=281275
I have the PT58 HC and really enjoy this gun. I bought two of these for me and the wife some time back. I was looking for an all steel pistol as well.
I carry the SS version and love the way this gun handles, shoots, and carries. At first it seems too large but I found a holster at wildbills that fits like a glove and hugs your hip at a slight forward tilt and even with a loose shirt in summer it is not noticed.
I like the Beretta Cheeta, The Browning BDA on this thread is beautiful.
I chose the Taurus because of Platform, Material, and HC ( High Capacity ) I carry 2 clips (40 Rounds )
It is a great gun! The Walther P99 Holster Fits great.
Here is a previous thread RE: Holsters with pics in the Holster ( Post # 17 )
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=281275
RimfireChris
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Wow everyone, thanks. 
According to my friend he wants it for self defense, at home and carry. He's retired and can wear whatever he wants too, in fact he used to carry a full size 1911, so size isn't a concealment issue for him. She didn't specify if it was racking the slide or recoil, just that "his hands were giving him more trouble lately." Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, I've got a lot of options to give her.
According to my friend he wants it for self defense, at home and carry. He's retired and can wear whatever he wants too, in fact he used to carry a full size 1911, so size isn't a concealment issue for him. She didn't specify if it was racking the slide or recoil, just that "his hands were giving him more trouble lately." Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, I've got a lot of options to give her.
Justin
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The Glock 25 isn't legal to import into the US because its design doesn't score enough points on BATFE's arbitrary importation list to be considered a "sporting" gun.
CDIGMAN Wrote: "Browning made a beautiful .380, once upon a time, you can run into them, now and again on Gun Broker http://www.nazarian.no/images/wep/29...da380_Main.jpg Also, the Beretta model 84 is it's fraternal twin."
I so agree with this. I've always thought these Berettas & Brownings were some of the most beautiful pistols ever made. Very pretty guns.
Even though I have no use for a mid-sized 380, I've occasionally been tempted to buy one of these just because of their appearance.
Robert in the hills of Tennessee
I so agree with this. I've always thought these Berettas & Brownings were some of the most beautiful pistols ever made. Very pretty guns.
Even though I have no use for a mid-sized 380, I've occasionally been tempted to buy one of these just because of their appearance.
Robert in the hills of Tennessee
TexasBill
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Browning still makes the BDA .380 and it's still beautiful. My wife has the Browning and I have the Beretta 84FS Cheetah. Both are wonderful guns.
However, there is also the Walther PK380. Yep, it's plastic. But the slide is easy to rack and recoil is extremely mild. We have one of these, too.
The Colt Mustang, SIG 238 and Ruger LCP would all be rather poor choices (sorry, rosewood151) due to their recoil and small grip size.
However, there is also the Walther PK380. Yep, it's plastic. But the slide is easy to rack and recoil is extremely mild. We have one of these, too.
The Colt Mustang, SIG 238 and Ruger LCP would all be rather poor choices (sorry, rosewood151) due to their recoil and small grip size.
oldfool
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full size is a relative term
after all a full size FA 454 or Ruger Redhawk is a tad heftier than a S&W k-frame, but they are all full size handguns
to me the Browning BDA, CZs, and Berettas mentioned in thread qualify as full size 380s, whilst the Sig 238 and Mustang do not
oddly enough my single stack Colt Gov'mt 380 is full size to me - enough handle, enough barrel, enough weight, all steel, locked breech = shootable
but then, I have small hands, would not suggest it as full size for the Jolly Green Giant, you know
as much as anything, "shootability", which is best served by handgun size and weight is what full sized means to me - scandium, airweight alloys, too small frames, too short barrels don't qualify, and most DAO triggers don't either
too few seem to appreciate how shootable the larger 380s are, if locked breech or delayed blowback, very easy to shoot well with
straight blowback not as good
alas, we mostly do get caught up in whatever the marketeers want to push us into, and the big trend is ever smaller, ever lighter, blocky black plastic
(hey, I got some of that stuff, too !)
absurd disparity between how my Colt shoots and how my LCP shoots, as expected
I think the Browning/Beretta BDA just might be the definitive "full size 380", but don't own one myself
if my Colt was precisely same as is, but with a DA/SA trigger, it would be - for me - my fantasy "perfect" 380
some significant part of what makes a pistol shootable is what the slide does when fired
if it comes "straight back at you", near zero muzzle flip, that counts for a lot
hard to come by in those downsized models
after all a full size FA 454 or Ruger Redhawk is a tad heftier than a S&W k-frame, but they are all full size handguns
to me the Browning BDA, CZs, and Berettas mentioned in thread qualify as full size 380s, whilst the Sig 238 and Mustang do not
oddly enough my single stack Colt Gov'mt 380 is full size to me - enough handle, enough barrel, enough weight, all steel, locked breech = shootable
but then, I have small hands, would not suggest it as full size for the Jolly Green Giant, you know
as much as anything, "shootability", which is best served by handgun size and weight is what full sized means to me - scandium, airweight alloys, too small frames, too short barrels don't qualify, and most DAO triggers don't either
too few seem to appreciate how shootable the larger 380s are, if locked breech or delayed blowback, very easy to shoot well with
straight blowback not as good
alas, we mostly do get caught up in whatever the marketeers want to push us into, and the big trend is ever smaller, ever lighter, blocky black plastic
(hey, I got some of that stuff, too !)
absurd disparity between how my Colt shoots and how my LCP shoots, as expected
I think the Browning/Beretta BDA just might be the definitive "full size 380", but don't own one myself
if my Colt was precisely same as is, but with a DA/SA trigger, it would be - for me - my fantasy "perfect" 380
some significant part of what makes a pistol shootable is what the slide does when fired
if it comes "straight back at you", near zero muzzle flip, that counts for a lot
hard to come by in those downsized models
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Peter M. Eick
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This is about as close as you will get to a full sized 380.
They are sure nice though.
krupparms
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Lg. or mid. size guns.
I have a double stack Makarov PMM in 9mak. it holds 12 in the mag.Mine was all beat-up when I got my hands on it.The grip is thicker than reg. Mak.s ,but it still fits into that class of firearms. it has adj. sites & shoots fine.I like CCI Blazer ammo for it.With 2 xtr. MAGs & 13 RDs in pistol,I feel like I have plenty of firepower for every day carry.If I feel that is not enought then I get an A.R. With alot of extra mag.s!I do not know where this H.G. came from( the importer) BUT it was made in russia. I have heard that a small amount was brought into the U.S.A.. Good luck
I have a double stack Makarov PMM in 9mak. it holds 12 in the mag.Mine was all beat-up when I got my hands on it.The grip is thicker than reg. Mak.s ,but it still fits into that class of firearms. it has adj. sites & shoots fine.I like CCI Blazer ammo for it.With 2 xtr. MAGs & 13 RDs in pistol,I feel like I have plenty of firepower for every day carry.If I feel that is not enought then I get an A.R. With alot of extra mag.s!I do not know where this H.G. came from( the importer) BUT it was made in russia. I have heard that a small amount was brought into the U.S.A.. Good luck
oldfool
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Peter M. Eick
now that's what I am talkin' about !
(he sez, drooling on keyboard)
mighty nice
now that's what I am talkin' about !
(he sez, drooling on keyboard)
mighty nice
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Full size .380? You bet! Single stack only, though.
Yeah, the Beretta 84 is a much better bet.
Yeah, the Beretta 84 is a much better bet.
Id second that sugestion for the Walther PK380, if he can get past the all metal idea. My wife picked one up, and as much as I dislike the plastic frames, her pistol is comfortable in the hand, balances well, is light, and the recoil is on par with a .22 in the same size pistol. A plesant bonus to the other qualities, it is VERY easy to rack the slide, and is pretty accurate.
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Well I don't think anyone is expecting one-shot stops with a .380.
That's why you have a mag full of cartridges and even if all your bullets don't kill or stop them you'll be battling with someone who has been shot full of holes.
They're aren't any guarantees with any caliber.
That's why you have a mag full of cartridges and even if all your bullets don't kill or stop them you'll be battling with someone who has been shot full of holes.
They're aren't any guarantees with any caliber.
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I always think of the Colt 1908 (same as the 1903, but in .380 instead of .32) when I think of a Full Size .380. That, and the BDA and Beretta 80 series.
A really nice deal, though it strays from the .380 idea, are the surplus Beretta 81s that are all over Gunbroker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=205152084
Under $300, metal, in a soft shooting caliber. It may just fit the bill.
But if I were not considering snagging a good deal on a used Colt or Beretta, a BDA would be my choice.
A really nice deal, though it strays from the .380 idea, are the surplus Beretta 81s that are all over Gunbroker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=205152084
Under $300, metal, in a soft shooting caliber. It may just fit the bill.
But if I were not considering snagging a good deal on a used Colt or Beretta, a BDA would be my choice.
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