Titan6
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I did not say there was no such category in the US, only Japan. Did you read the link I posted?
I did not say there was no such category in the US, only Japan. Did you read the link I posted?
I understood and yes I read the link. However...I did not say there was no such category in the US, only Japan. Did you read the link I posted?
That's funny. Hadn't heard that one. That'd be a heck of a lot of bodies!The point I was making was the missing person argument is one of the strawmen arguments frequently introduced, with the belief that most Japanese buildings are 15% constructed out of missing murder victims.
f gun control were really such an important factor in Japan's low crime, it would also be hard to explain why Japan's murder rate is higher than Britain's (a shooter's paradise compared to Japan). Both Switzerland and Israel have many more guns per capita than even America, and require citizens to own or train with pistols and fully automatic rifles. Yet these countries have less murder and violent crime than Japan, and
almost no gun crime.
Intentional Death Rates (Homicide + Suicide) per 100,000 per year.
(posted at Wikipedia)
Japanese Suicide rate (2010) 24.6
Japanese Homicide rate (2009) 0.86
Intentional Death rate 25.46
U.S. Suicide rate (2005) 11.1
U.S. Homicide rate (2009) 5.0
Intentional Death rate 16.1
As members of the this forum, we may be more susceptible to overestimation of the role that gun laws play in the multivariate problem of violent crime. Obviously it has a part, but the role of gun laws can certainly be overshadowed by more powerful socioeconomic factors.Criminologist Marvin E. Wolfgang (who personally hated guns) did an in-depth study of 588 homicides in Philadelphia:
""More than the availability of a shooting weapon is involved in
homicide. ... The type of weapon used appears to be, in part, the
culmination of assault intentions or events and is only
superficially related to causality. ... It is the contention of
this observer that few homicides due to shooting could be avoided
merely if a firearm were not immediately present....""
I would extend the mantra of Motive and Opportunity trump Means in homicide to the analysis of suicides as well and would say the difference between Japan and USA goes far beyond gun laws, and that the gun laws are an irrelevant distraction that cause us to miss real social differences and actual causal factors in intentional deaths.
The citations are right within the linked wikipedia page. Or is this just a troll?daorhgih said:It does need some sort of citation to verify.