Lets say you're in a car accident..

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This morning I looked outside and it was snowing like crazy. I thought to myself "oh great, get to drive 80 miles home in a snow storm" Then when I got dressed and put my gun in its concealed holster I got thinking again, what happens when you get in a car wreck when you have a gun on your person?

Say you run off the road into the ditch and get knocked out, the paramedics then come and pull you out and take you to the hospital, then at the hospital they cut off all your clothes and put you in one of those stylish gowns, what happens with your gun? Do they put it in a little bag with your cut up clothes or something? Do you need to alert the police that you had a gun on you but now its gone?


Any who, not planning on getting in a wreck, but that just popped into my head.
 
normally the paramedics will leave it tell the hospital police/security and they will either hold it or call the local pd who will secure it.

once stable id ask the doctor where i pistol is and have a family member try and get it if possible
 
Mothers Wisdom: If you plan on getting in a car wreck and going to the hospital....make sure your wearing clean underwear.
 
I'm not sure what will happen but I have read a few cases where the paramedics took the gun and handed it over to the police.

If this ever happened to me I would contact the ATF and let them know the gun was stolen. Just because it was a paramedic or a cop that took the weapon, doesn't mean it wasn't stolen. Yeah whatever, flame on.
 
Securing an injured person's valuables is not theft by any stretch of the imagination. Matters not whether it's a wallet, a gun, or a paperback book. Now, if they say, "Gun what gun?" or won't let you have it back once you are able to secure it yourself then you may have an issue, but just securing for safe keeping, no.

And yes, I think there are sadly some law enforcement and emergency personnel out there capable of something like that, but by and large I don't think they're the majority. I find that most emergency personnel are very much good people at heart wanting to do help their fellow man.
 
Lotta good guesswork...

It happened to me.

One of the ambulance drivers unloaded it, put the Colt in a plastic drawstring bag with magazine and looped the drawstring loosely around my wrist. The rest of my personal effects (wallet, watch, etc.) were in a separate plastic drawstring bag.

At the trauma center they kept both bags with me. Clothing that was removed was placed in a third bag. When I went into a procedure room, the bags stayed outside the door, then went with me back to recovery. All bags stayed at the bed with me. Upon recovery, I was transferred to another room. I dressed and took the other two bags to Discharge, where I was eventually released.

No, nobody called the police. Cops have too much to do already.

Could somebody have stolen the gun while I was out? Yes. Sorry, I figure that's the risk you take. Or did somebody tell us that the right to bear arms is granted with no risks?
 
I work as a professional paramedic and have run several calls where someone was carrying.
Most of them, I took the gun, cleared it and turned it over to hospital security who locked it up along with the patients other belongings.
I was on at least one call I remember where the police were on the scene and they took the gun and told him he could get it back from them.
Nobody cared about it .

It isn't a big deal at all..............at least here. Where you live, I have no idea.


FWIW: if you are being transported to the hospital by ambulance and they never figure out that you are carrying a gun, they arn't doing their job.
 
They put all of your belongings in a container to be collected by you or your family.
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Best to have a chat with your family about who can and who can not take possession of a gun.
 
With my luck, I'd wind up with temporary amnesia and not realize I had my gun with me until a few years later when my amnesia is gone, but then alzheimers sets in!:)
 
everything is turned over to hospital security and placed in a safe until someone is able to "claim" the belongings for the accident victim or the victim himself/herself is able to do so. the gun, knife, etc is not treated any different than any other belonging... assuming the person was not injured during the commision of a crime.
 
Best to have a chat with your family about who can and who can not take possession of a gun.
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I think that is the most sensible post yet. Let your family know you carry and maybe even the ser.no. so it can be IDed and claimed with minimal stress especially if the accident might have the worst outcome. It might be worth more research in a specific state if it is of great concern.
 
I recall an instance where a man was in an accident, not really injured, but decided to ride the ambulance to the hospital to be checked out. He voluntarily surrendered his firearm to the officer who was working the accident for safekeeping. When he got out of the hospital and tried to get his gun back from the department, he found that they had not only run a serial number check on the gun, but also fired it to add to a database of ballistic fingerprints. They also refused to turn the gun back over to him for a period of time, I think they were waiting for the results of the gun trace.

Anyone remember the actual case I am talking about? it was fairly recently.

I also know of a few instances where the police either destroyed or refused to return ammunition that was with a gun that they took possession of, regardless of whether the gun was linked with a crime.
 
Yea that is a sorry truth but I would bet that most guns that fall into the LE's hands get the numbers run much like the plates on a car or a drivers lic. number.
I have not had to surrender a weapon with each contact with a LE but when I have it was returned to the car and I'm sure the numbers were run.
I can't say what they would do if it was in their hands for any amount of time.
 
So, you were just in a serious car accident. You were rendered incapacitated and unconcious. And the first concern you deal with when regaining conciousness (assuming you ever wake up again) is "where is my gun?" and on a distant second take, wonder why you can't move your legs... Gotta love gunnies!:D
 
What happens if a meteorite shower hits in the road on front of you. Would your CCW pistol be able to knock oncoming meteorites out of the sky before they hit you??
 
I used to work as a paramedic. I am now an ER nurse. When we would be picking someone up at an accident scene, the police ARE going to be there. We would have PD secure the firearm. Someone who is unconscious from an accident is going to most likely end up going to a trauma unit. One of the first things that the patient is going to have is a fairly thorough head to toe evaluation and usually all clothing is cut off to access the patient. We will find a gun during this.

As an ER nurse we would occasionaly get the person dragged in by friends unconscious or the ever infamous "dump off" in the ambulance bay. Once again someone who is unresponsive is going to get stripped down and we will find all kinds of things.
At the hospital that I work at security would be called to secure the firearm but it is hospital policy to notify PD of the firearm when found to see what they would like us to do with it.
 
What about when the car is towed, and you have a gun in the glove box? I know mine resides there on a regular basis, I could see the towing company going through the car.

Or better yet, an AOW/SBR/Silencer in the trunk. Would the car going to the tow yard be considered an illegal transfer?
 
Our state agency yearly re-qualification also included home firearm safety, firearm retention, etc., and in addition we were told that if we were involved in an accident an EMT was NOT qualified to receive our firearm. Same for nurse, etc.

We could only give it to a peace officer to safe guard, and we were instructed to be sure and get a receipt.

I guess this was all assuming we were conscious!

My thought was that if I was seriously injured and fighting for my life, that wouldn't be at the top of my list of things to do. Besides, if someone is working hard to save my life, I'm not inclined to say no to them at that point.
 
What do you call a snow storm? I don't think we are thinking about the same thing. ;)

Here the only accidents you get in a snow storm are getting stuck, you can't drive fast enough. :D
 
If your car gets towed, you will probably never see anything of value that was in the car; again. When your car is towed, they tell you right up front that they are not responsible for anything but the car itself. That means to me that they are giving themselves permission to steal everything in it unless you tell them you changed your mind about them towing your car.
 
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