Marlin Model 60…

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Spats McGee said:
I don't know if Ruger will bring back the 60 or not. I hope they do, though. I like options.
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I have a feeling Ruger is going to say you do have options. You can get a 10-22 in plastic, wood, take down, you can even make it shoot arrows. What other options do you want.
 
If they do bring them back are they going to do something to them so they don’t outshoot the factory 10/22’s? ;)
 
toivo said:
The Ruger site says "Currently not in production." I didn't see anything about "yet," so I wouldn't hold out too much hope.
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Their reps have stated they’ll start making 60’s again, and they’ve put them on their site to indicate the forthcoming models.

Ruger didn’t just copy and paste Marlin’s old website and post a bunch of old models which will never be seen again - they’re releasing the limited number of forthcoming models to generate consumer interest and accelerate the early sales volumes when the new models inevitably do hit the streets. It’s a marketing tactic, akin to pre-sale advertising, or “unveiling” future models at conventions like SHOT.
 
The 10-22 is a fine firearm, and I can see the appeal for folks who like the ability to modify and upgrade to their heart’s content. I’m typically on the opposite end of the spectrum though. I looked at both the 60 and the 10-22 years ago, and decided that I wanted something that I could shoot successfully, stock-out-of-the-box, and hit a squirrel in the head at 100 ft with factory sights. I’m not dogging the Ruger, but the Marlin has always been an affordable, accurate, grab-and-go gun that is what it is and makes no apologies for it.
 
I have 2 older Model 60s but I’ve recently taken a liking to a 10/22 in stainless. My older ones are finicky about ammo with regard to cycling. One is very accurate but not so the other. It was pretty roughly handled by its previous owner so I don’t hold the accuracy against it. If a new 60 were as reliable as my 10/22 I think I’d be in on one.
 
Remington1911 said:
Fixed it for you.
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That may be your sentiment but it isn't mine.

"I don't see the Camp 9/45 coming back. Ruger already has a better, more modern solution in their PC carbines."

The Camp Carbine was a decent rifle for its time. However, there are several things that make the Ruger better. What does "better/modern" mean? I don't see how anyone would argue that a .45 carbine that uses something other than a single stack 1911 would be a better idea. Or a 9mm that uses something other than S&W 59 mags. Glock mags are ubiquitous. The trigger sucked. The mag release sucked. I have never been a fan of birch stocks, so the fact that they're wood is not a plus for me. IMHO, call it trendy if you want but to me a 9mm carbine screams homestead defense and for that, I want the ability to mount a light and suppressor. So the threaded barrel and picatinny rail or free float tube of the Ruger is a huge plus. Bottom line, there are things the Ruger does that the Marlin doesn't and nothing the Marlin does the Ruger doesn't.
 
DMW1116 said:
I have 2 older Model 60s but I’ve recently taken a liking to a 10/22 in stainless. My older ones are finicky about ammo with regard to cycling....
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My only 60 is in really rough shape, and it's my next project. My 10/22, on the other hand, has always been a beast in terms of reliability. She's MOSC (Minute of Soup Can) accurate, but she'll eat anything. The only times I can think of that she's ever malfunctioned were when trying to run a suppressor, and even then, it was probably with subsonic ammo.

ETA: You know, now that I think about it, I just reset the red dot on her. Maybe she needs to go to the range for an accuracy check...
 
They run pretty well with the right ammo but choke on the wrong. However the accurate one shoots basically everything the same. My 10/22 cycles everything so far but only standard velocity loss shoot accurately. They’re almost different philosophies of use.
 
I also heard Ruger mention the Model 60 and said the development and production would take time. Ruger is “tweaking” the Marlin lines (like it or not) to better flow in their production lines.

Based on the popularity of the 60, Ruger would be fools not to bring it back to some degree.

But I also heard a Ruger rep state that they get lots of calls for their semiautomatic 44 Carbine but that isn’t coming back soon, if ever. I suspect the Camp 9 is the same deal.

Personally, I’d like a .357 lever rifle. Hope they get here soon too.
 
CraigC said:
That may be your sentiment but it isn't mine.

"I don't see the Camp 9/45 coming back. Ruger already has a better, more modern solution in their PC carbines."

The Camp Carbine was a decent rifle for its time. However, there are several things that make the Ruger better. What does "better/modern" mean? I don't see how anyone would argue that a .45 carbine that uses something other than a single stack 1911 would be a better idea. Or a 9mm that uses something other than S&W 59 mags. Glock mags are ubiquitous. The trigger sucked. The mag release sucked. I have never been a fan of birch stocks, so the fact that they're wood is not a plus for me. IMHO, call it trendy if you want but to me a 9mm carbine screams homestead defense and for that, I want the ability to mount a light and suppressor. So the threaded barrel and picatinny rail or free float tube of the Ruger is a huge plus. Bottom line, there are things the Ruger does that the Marlin doesn't and nothing the Marlin does the Ruger doesn't.
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Looking at something from 30 years ago and judging it by todays standards is really a weak way of making an argument.

I will take the marlin all day and twice on sunday, the trigger on mine does not "suck" and the one ruger I shot was just the cheapest feeling.....thing....I have had in my hand since the P89.

This is going to roll down hill to a lock pretty darn quickly.
 
Buzznrose said:
I also heard Ruger mention the Model 60 and said the development and production would take time. Ruger is “tweaking” the Marlin lines (like it or not) to better flow in their production lines.

Based on the popularity of the 60, Ruger would be fools not to bring it back to some degree.

But I also heard a Ruger rep state that they get lots of calls for their semiautomatic 44 Carbine but that isn’t coming back soon, if ever. I suspect the Camp 9 is the same deal.

Personally, I’d like a .357 lever rifle. Hope they get here soon too.
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I can tell you that a 357 lever is just so much fun. You can load it from mild to wild, and it is fairly accurate.....accurate enough to be pop can deadly at 50 yards, and that is good enough for me. There is something just magical about the lever, it is one of those things you get or you don't. I guess I watched too many John Wayne movies.
 
Buzznrose said:
I also heard Ruger mention the Model 60 and said the development and production would take time. Ruger is “tweaking” the Marlin lines (like it or not) to better flow in their production lines.







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Unfortunately, tweaking probably means cheapening.

It would be sad to have them produced as poor copies of the former ones.
 
Speedo66 said:
Unfortunately, tweaking probably means cheapening.

It would be sad to have them produced as poor copies of the former ones.
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Why do you say they? Is it in their interests to make this gun a piece of junk?

By most accounts, the new Ruger Marlin lever guns are better than the JM models due to CNC and materials used.
 
Speedo66 said:
Nobody knowledgeable proofreads them?
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Probably not! Years ago, the NRA ran some sort of promotion, and in its emotional "please donate" section, they had a passage that read in part;..."in the proud anals of the N R A..." I called them on the failure, and was told that about a half a dozen staffers had read(?) the material, and had approved it! None had discovered the error! :fire: Needless to say, I didn't donate.

FWIW, the word should have been annals. BIIIG difference!
 
IWAC said:
Probably not! Years ago, the NRA ran some sort of promotion, and in its emotional "please donate" section, they had a passage that read in part;..."in the proud anals of the N R A..." I called them on the failure, and was told that about a half a dozen staffers had read(?) the material, and had approved it! None had discovered the error! :fire: Needless to say, I didn't donate.

FWIW, the word should have been annals. BIIIG difference!
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Maybe it wasn’t a typo?
 
Bringing back the tube-fed Model 60 would be an excellent complement to the 10/22. The Winchester/Browning/FN conglomerate makes several platforms that theoretically "compete" with each other, but instead offer more choices to the user. The one that I question is how the Chevrolet / GMC thing still exists.
 
Since millions of 60's have been sold I think Ruger is smart enough to produce them. I think that the idea that Ruger would make them shoot poorly is silly. Many people actually believe the 60 is better and I doubt that Ruger will argue the point or do anything to sabotage sales. That's a poor business model. The idea of business is to make money. Not prove a point. Rivalry between products you sell is good for business. When Pontiac came out with the GTO, it wasn't long before we had the 396 SS Chevelle, 4-4-2 Olds, and Buick Gran Sport all from the same company.
 
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