Marlin Model 60 vs Ruger 10/22?

[FlyinBryan]

lol, disregard my previous post. i just saw that your 5 shot 1 hole groups were at 100 yards!!!!

a stock marlin 60 will out shoot a custom lilja air gauged benchrest 1022 barrel!!!!!

incredible!!!

 

[BUGUDY]

Is there any truth in this, " the older 60's were better shooters".?

 

[ArmedBear]

Is there any truth in this, " the older 60's were better shooters".?

No. See my target above.

rangerruck's is an old one, mine is a new one.

 

[ArmedBear]

FlyinBryan, his targets are what they are. I doubt that any production .22 semiauto will outshoot an expensive custom build with top-notch parts like that.

The question I have, though, is why spend that money on a 10/22 instead of a real .22 rifle that will do better, still, if THAT'S what you want?

Some people just have to have the best 10/22 on the block. And others of us can only laugh at the notion.

Dollar for dollar, the Marlin 60 is the better rifle by far.

Price-independent? Well, there's no way to build a 60 like a 10/22, because the parts aren't even out there if you wanted to do it. If you want to build a 10/22 for the price of a custom Anschutz-based rifle, go ahead. The bolt gun will still shoot better.

If money's no object, I won't playing around with kids' toys so I can brag. Hell, I won't be doing anything so I can brag about it.

Now if someone shoots semiauto-specific matches and gets the "I want to win" bug, then all bets are off. The rifle can get expensive, and that's just how it is.

 

[BUGUDY]

I am looking for a Mod 60. I have been pondering a 22lr for awhile now, and couldn't make up my mind what I wanted, now I know.

 

[gidaeon]

Marlin!! Now it needs to be said the 10/22 has the potential to be 'better' or take all kinds of forms but that means $$$. I shot both and ended up going for used Marlin 60. I have bad luck with 10/22 factory mags

You want stock setup? get a 60.. preferably a used one for < 100 as already stated. You will not regret it. And then you can take what you saved and a little more and get a new whatever you want

Disclaimer: buying used marlin rimfire's can prove addictive. (I am not yet wishing to resolve this.) Yes, you need a 99m1 someday.

 

[fireman 9731]

I have both... Both are 2008/09 production. I only use them for plinking so I cant say that one is more accurate than the other for what I do with them.

The sights are about the same, however, the trigger is much nicer on the Marlin, and the bolt hold open feature is handy too.

If I ever wanted to pimp one out, I would have to pick the Ruger simply because of the lack of accessories for the Marlin.

I kind of like the looks of the Ruger more, but the fit and finish is better on the Marlin.

The receiver is already grooved for a scope on the Marlin, but the Ruger usually comes with bases and screws. If that makes a difference to you.

Good after market mags for the Ruger are hard to come by sometimes.

I think either one will serve your purposes though.

 

[FlyinBryan]

from what ive seen in this thread, if the op gets a marlin 60, there is no ruger than will outshoot it even with hundreds of dollars thrown at it for match barrels, triggers, etc,,,,

i dont have a 60, i have a custom ruger, but if this is true, i think the answer is simple and i dont see how the op could possibly be dissapointed with one.

 

[Dookie]

My goodness, another 1022 vs. 60 thread.

I have yest to seen any targets put up that are significantly better than any factory 10/22's I have ever shot.

In factory form, both are utterly reliable, both are accurate enough, yet to see any real proof that the marlin shoots better enough to matter in the real world especially since neither can even be considered target grade. Both are great rifles with great histories.

The biggest difference is that on a Ruger, if something ever does break it can be fixed easy and quickly, no matter what broke. A marlin you are SOL as parts have to be special ordered and are a pain to put in.

If Ruger had ever made a tube fed semi auto, it would be very similar to the 60, tough, cheap, and fun.

There are no more $60.00 model 60's, even beat up versions are well over $100.00 now.

As for Ruger's plastic parts. So what? It kept them from jacking the prices because metal is not nearly as cheap as polymer. And Marlin uses a plastic trigger guard also.

 

[ArmedBear]

from what ive seen in this thread, if the op gets a marlin 60, there is no ruger than will outshoot it even with hundreds of dollars thrown at it for match barrels, triggers, etc,,,,

Never saw that in this thread.

The point is that a Ruger won't shoot as well, UNLESS you throw more money at it, and the OP wanted an out-of-box rifle.

Why you seem to find that to be a problem, I don't know.

 

[Winston_Smith]

The Marlin feels more like a real rifle.

Ruger has really started to cut some corners with quality and components. The best bang for your buck will be the marlin. The only thing Ruger has going for it is the detachable magazine (but at 10 rounds, the marlin wins capacity as well). TI mags are the only reliable hi-cap mags for the 10/22 and run 40$ for composite and 70$ Al.

If you really want a detachable mag, then take a look at the marlin 795.

I will not buy another new Ruger 10/22. I would rather build a clone from a non-Ruger receiver.

 

[FlyinBryan]

Never saw that in this thread.

hmm. you just missed it i suppose

As for accuracy? it is no question, that any marlin mod 60 unmodified, will allways outshoot any ruger 10.22, and that includes 10.22's that are highly modified, with 100's of dollars of new parts.

The point is that a Ruger won't shoot as well, UNLESS you throw more money at it, and the OP wanted an out-of-box rifle

to be honest i completely agree with you.

Why you seem to find that to be a problem, I don't know.

the only thing ive really responded to in this thread is when the op has been informed that a box stock 60 will outshoot a full custom 1022.

if its safe for him to expect that then i suppose all is well.

 

[handle02]

I vote marlin 60.I've had mine since the early 90's and I couldn't tell you how many rounds have went down the tube and I can still hit a limb rat in the head at 30 yards easily!!They are easier to load,faster to load,more accurate,more reliable,and they are CHEAPER!!! Just a better overall gun IMO. Sorry all of you 1022 lover's keep spending them greenbacks and maybe oneday you'll have a rifle half as good as the model 60. P.S. I just picked up an old glenfield marlin last night for 50 bucks, gotta love that!

 

[CZguy]

There are no more $60.00 model 60's, even beat up versions are well over $100.00 now.

That must be a regional thing because I can find them around here marked $75.00 easily. It just takes a little bargaining to get it down to $60.00 out the door.

P.S. I just picked up an old glenfield marlin last night for 50 bucks, gotta love that!

Was that one of the ones with the squirrel on the stock?

 

[handle02]

Yes, it's the one with the squirrel on the stock.It's not perfect,but a model 60 for 50 bucks I couldn't pass it up.

 

[jmr40]

Those are some impressive groups from a stock Marlin semi-auto. For my uses I still like the Ruger better. I have a couple of old Marlin 60's around the house that gave up the ghost years ago. It would be cheaper to look for another pawnshop keeper than try to fix them, and I may just have to look into that.

My Rugers won't shoot that well, but my CZ will, and I have come to really like the CZ when I want to shoot little bitty groups. If I didn't own the CZ I would be more inclined to buy a Marlin. For me the CZ and Rugers fill very different roles. A Marlin, while a great rifle, is not as accurate as my CZ, nor as fun to plink with as the Ruger. I much prefer the detachable mags.

I like the shorter more compact size of the Ruger and I like the stock design on MY rifles much better than the Marlin. I do not have a Ruger with the standard carbine stock. If I had made my assessment of a Ruger with that stock I would never like them either. Of the five 10-22's that belong to me and my kids 3 have the longer Deluxe stock with checkering, 1 has a Hogue stock and the most recent one has the new factory synthetic stock. I really like the feel of the new synthetic. It is trimmer and seems to have a slightly longer LOP.

Other than the 1 Hogue stock all of mine are just as they came from the factory. I can make 12oz drink cans dance at 50 yards or make a kill shot on a Squirrel. If I want to hit dimes I shoot the CZ.

 

[nulfisin]

Try them both

See what feels better in your hands. Then go with it. At this price point, you can't make a serious mistake -- even if you have to buy both over a period of time.

 

[AgentAdam]

The used beat up marlins go for $100 around here too and i was about to give up on pawnshop deals since Obummer when i found a practically unfired Glenfield by Marlin model 60 with the little squirrels and fancy checkering on the stock for $99 otd and a Newhaven by Mossberg 600(500) for what i thought was a good deal at $199 compared to the beat up Walmart duck guns. Both where like new minus 30+ years of storage and handling from the mid 70's. I'm normally a 10/22 fan but they don't make them like this any more.I think both of there plastic trigger group models are no good anymore.

 

[rangerruck]

for one of the above dudes; the American Eagle ammo, shoots surprisingly well, and does so with a number of 22's, but it will give up the occasional flyer.
CCI stuff was pretty good across the board. But the real surprise was the Aguila , green box and red box. these were both very hi speed 22 rounds, (not hypers), and they were solid point, and the other was hollow point. They consistently could bang out small groups, with no flyers.
mod 60's also come in the Glenfield variants, with the animals or acorns pressed into the buttstocks; usually you find a squirrel and an acorn. there is also a bunny , a coyote, and a wolf, which is the toughest to find.
The most desirable mod 60 to get is made between 85 and 88'; again, these were the only model years that used a 22 inch bbl, had a 17 or 18 round feed tube, it goes almost all the way to the end of the bbl, and also had a last shot bolt hold open lever. Starting in 89' because of the New Jersey Rule- no semis could have over 14 round feed mechs. So marlin went to a 14 round tube, and the bbl started to change from 22 inches, to 19 , where it is now.
And if you wanna go old school, look for the 99 series; these came out just
1 year before the mod 60's but these were like full blown rifles; white line spacers, black walnut stocks, Italian made swivels- very good stuff.
They came as 99's, 99c, 989, 99m1, 99m2... like that.

 

[akolleth]

Just like everyone else has seen to say

Marlin if you out of the box results

Ruger if you want to be able to play with it like a tinkertoy (but capable with lots of $ of being more accurate)


My vote- My Marlin 60 I bought for $50 OTD at a gunshow. So very accurate and fun to shoot.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

Go for the 60. Now in my gun vault I have one that will take nearly any ruger to school It is a 512 Remington Sportsmaster with a Trigger job. When I was a young man in my 20's and my nerves were super steady I could out shoot Ruger boys all day with that Rifle. At 43 and a couple of Accidents later it would be a dead heat.

Bottom line is this get what you want for popping cans; The 60 will get her done for less money.

 

[JRockman]

I must say, this was a great discussion. Thank you all for contributing your thoughts. Definitely a great summary with thoughtful comments and relevant experience to justify opinions.

 

[Bill B.]

Nice shooting Ranger!

Nothing wrong with the shooting but there is so dang many holes in the target's it's hard to see how that M60 groups. Please post some 5 shot groups on one target at 100 yards. It ain't bragging if you can do it everytime!

 

[medicdave]

My first gun at age 5 was a marlin model 60 as described above with the 18rd magazine. It shot well for a long, long, long time. I replaced it two years ago at age 26 due to it finnally peaning the breach face enough it wouldn't reliably lock up after who knows how many millions of rounds.(We grew up on a farm and got paid our allowance in 22 shells.) That said when I went to replace it I wasn't impressed with the new marlin model 60 and bought a ruger 10/22 stainless rifle. It picked up where the Marlin left off, and does about 1/2 in at 50yds with cheap remington bulk pack, but will shoot 1/2 @100yds with wolf match target. Longest shot on game is a crow at 117 lasered yds within 1/2in of POA. Don't know if I'll get 21yrs of service from the ruger, but its doin well so far...Dave

 

[DennyF]

Have both. Shot a M60 many years ago that a bud lent to me for quite a long time. That one needed cleaned regularly, or it had feeding/extraction problems. So long ago, can't recall what I mostly shot in it back then, could've been the ammo?

In my experiences, the M60 is a tad more accurate out of the box. Have fired several of them over the years, but only own one now.

My oldest 10/22 was made in 1967 and has tens of thousands of rounds through it. Once ran it for several years with no cleaning other than the occasional patch down the bore, just to see how much "abuse" it could handle. It handled alot.

That one now has an $80 Green Mountain 18" bull barrel on it and a Fajen synthetic thumbhole stock and is very accurate. Won the stock at a banquet, so with the new bbl and the original cost of the gun, that's a $155 rifle. Have a newer "plain Jane" 10/22 that's stock and that one also shoots very well, cost $179 new.

Have a new M60 SS/laminate still in the box after about 10 years, also won at a banquet. Might shoot it some day? Personally, I prefer the 10/22 with its magazine, partially because of the aftermarkets goodies that one can buy, or not buy? Mostly because I don't much care for tube magazines.

Either is a good choice, neither will break the bank for a plinker. Can't use semis to hunt with here in PA, so plinkers they be.