Most accurate 9mm for target/range shooting?

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hi,
the SIG P210 is close to perfect 9 mm target pistol.
But it is the same class as a Rolls-Royce.

The steel-framed target version of the P226 (6" bull barrel, tuned trigger, adj. sights) is about 1800 USD in Europe, I don't know if it is marketed is US.
It is well worth its price, beautiful (Nill-Grips are standard!) and undestructible.
I shooted it with the same accuracy as my Python. Great from a locked breech semiauto.

The HK P7, Expert, P9S are also great, but not the same class.
 
I think most of the suggestions on this topic merely prove that people don't know how accurate their guns are. Aside from being "combat accurate" of course ;) , which is just another way of saying, "inaccurate." Or they are just posting which 9x19 gun they like without reference to the topic question.

As usual. :D
 
Where would us poor, uneducated, wretces be without Sean Smith to tell us we're dumb and can't shoot. We probably smell bad too. I feel so much better knowing he's here to guide us.:rolleyes:
Please tell the great unwashed masses what we should shoot and how to shoot. Fire away Mr Smith.
 
Ky Larry,

Ever cross your mind that you took my post just a TINY bit too seriously?

:neener:

I was just making fun of the fact that these "what gun for X?" topics always result in people recommending what they own, no matter how irrelevant it is to the question that was asked. Or do you really think that a CZ or Glock is going to wrest the "most accurate 9mm" crown from a P210? A P7 might be in the running, or an STI... but cheap service pistols?

Hmmm... let me think... close call, that. ;)

I LIKE CZs, but they can't deliver the group size @ distance objective performance to be in the running, on average. Give a Glock 17 and a P210 to bullseye shooters of equal skill, and make a wild guess who is going to get hosed. :rolleyes:
 
Nope Sean,

you must have got a crappy G17. Everyone elses will out shoot a Sig 210 or P7 anyday. :what:
 
I have no experience of this,but I have heard the Luger was reknown for being very accurate....If I were in the market specifically for a target accurate 9mm sevice style pistol,I'd probably go with the Smith 952 or an accurized 1911 in 9mm-STI most likely.
 
hi,
"My most accurate pistol is definitely my Walther P88"

The standard P88 has actually WORSE trigger, than the shorter P88 COMPACT.

Because for every shot, you must push UP the entire firing pin with your trigger.

BUT: Sean Smith is right: none of these "service/selfdefence" semiautos come close to _dedicated_ bullseye target pistols.
No matter how do you love YOUR particular gun.

BTW: Pardini also make 9x19 version of the PC9.
 
I think most of the suggestions on this topic merely prove that people don't know how accurate their guns are
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I'd have said "aren't" instead of "are" but that's just me. ;)
Neither of my BHP's, nor my CZ75b 9mm are up to what what I demand for accurate.
The 75b, if I'd drop a Champion trigger group in it and fine fit a Kadet upper would be in the running though. - but that would make it not a 9mm...
 
I'd have said "aren't" instead of "are" but that's just me.
Neither of my BHP's, nor my CZ75b 9mm are up to what what I demand for accurate.

The 75b, if I'd drop a Champion trigger group in it and fine fit a Kadet upper would be in the running though. - but that would make it not a 9mm...
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The Champion hammer, sear and trigger would make it easier to shoot well, but really wouldn't change the gun's innate accuracy. It might make it easier for you to realize the gun's potential.

(I have a Champion sear in my 85 Combat -- but didn't want to go SA, so don't have the Champion trigger and hammer.)

A Ransome Rest would show this to be true... the trigger is part of the human factor.
 
My Para LDA 18-9 Ltd was a total surprise in the accuracy department. It is the best 9mm I've ever shot (including the 952). My CZ Combat 85 is a close second.
 
BUT: Sean Smith is right: none of these "service/selfdefence" semiautos come close to _dedicated_ bullseye target pistols.
No matter how do you love YOUR particular gun.
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I would have agreed with you a year ago, but now I don't know. My Glock 34 is pretty darn close to the best of both these worlds.

It is scary accurate. I shot her again today, and was aghast at first. I missed the paper completely!

Nope, the entire mag went through the black X in the 10-ring.


It's competition target-accurate, and carry/combat durable and reliable.
 
Most Accurate that I can tell? This is from best to dang good.

210-5
210-6
H&K P7PSP (european heal release)
H&K P7PSP (american heal release)

After that it goes down hill pretty quick....
 
"Ok, at 7yds to be fair"

Are you kidding???

And another aspect: the service/defence pistol could be very accurate for some consecutive shots (or from a ransom rest).
But the REAL target pistols are _easy_ to shoot accurately from human hand for longer sessions.

In Europe the static bullseye competitions are mostly shot according to ISSF rules. It means, that you have 20 minutes for 20 shots from 25 meters.
With a service pistol, most people usually shoot some fine groups, from the first 5-10 shots. Than the shooter became tired, and a less-than-perfect sight, grip, or trigger will be ruining the entire 20rd group.
 
The S&W 952 is a Performance Center pistol, and pretty compelling.

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Walt,
That's why I specified using a "fine fitted" Kadet upper.
MY 75b is a better .22 than it is a 9mm in terms of pinpoint accuracy.
I know fer sure if I'da spent extra time fitting the Kadet unit the thing would be ungodly accurate,,excepting for the trigger.
 
Hal wrote:

MY 75b is a better .22 than it is a 9mm in terms of pinpoint accuracy.
I know fer sure if I'da spent extra time fitting the Kadet unit the thing would be ungodly accurate,,excepting for the trigger...
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I understand, and would argue that you affirm my original point: since both the 9mm and .22 use the same lower/trigger, its obviously not the trigger that makes the difference. Its the upper and what YOU DO with the trigger that really matters.

I have a Kadet Kit, too, and it is amazingly accurate. It is so good, I traded away my stainless Ruger Target Competition [Long bull barrel] for a very nice Witness Sport Long Slide in .45.

The guy on the other end of the trade had a bad case of arthritis in his hands and wrists and was not longer able to shoot .45 comfortably. From his perspective he won -- as he continues shooting with a fine gun. From my perspective, I won, as I now have a very, very nice .45. (After a LOT of trigger work and dry firing, it is great.)

We both won.

On topic: I had a P-210-6 for a couple of years, and it was a very fine weapon -- and far more accurate than I could ever use.

I now have a CZ-75B SA that has had a lot of custom work done to it, and it seems to shoot almost as well and, believe it or not, the trigger if just as good. (Unhappily, the gunsmith who did the work for the prior owner is now out of sight somewhere, or I'd send him some more guns!)

I'd give the P-210-6 an edge beyond 20 yards, though -- against darned near any gun except another 210...
 
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