Need action on concealed carry in National Parks

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Just received this from VCDL - it affects all states, not just Virginia. It's time to get fired up!
**URGENT** **URGENT** **URGENT**

VCDL has just learned from our sources on Capitol Hill that the
Department of the Interior (DOI) is **livid** over the National Park
Service's (NPS) asinine rejection letter sent to VCDL concerning
VCDL's Petition for Rule Making!

(http://www.vcdl.org/pdf/NPS_Denial_of_VCDL_PRM.pdf)

That petition would allow a law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun
for self-defense in a National Park if the state in which the park is
located allows such carry.

Apparently the National Park Service DID NOT CLEAR that rejection
letter with their parent - the Department of the Interior!

The Department of Interior had been telling VCDL and key
Congressional members that DOI would seriously consider VCDL's
petition.

The ensuing NPS rejection letter made DOI look like fools and liars.
DOI doesn't like that at all, and I don't blame them.

The word that I am hearing is that the Department of the Interior is
investigating how to OVERTURN that rejection letter and soon!!!

We have an incredible opportunity to save TWO years of work and pull
off a victory for all gun owners! But we must make our voices heard
LOUD AND CLEAR.

I need all of you to do the following FOUR things NOW and URGENTLY no
matter where you live, as this this is a NATIONAL effort:

********

1. CALL the DOI Legislative Affairs and leave a message for the
Secretary of the Interior, Dirk Kempthorne.


Say something like this:

"I encourage Secretary Kempthorne to implement the Virginia Citizens
Defense League's Petition for Rule Making that the National Park
Service has rejected out-of-hand. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to protect themselves and their families while visiting a
National Park."

PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT DOI'S TELEPHONE LINE LIT UP BIG TIME!

Mr. Kempthorne's telephone number in Washington, DC is: 202-208-7351

********

2. Call your U.S. Senators and Congressman. Their names, phone
numbers and email addresses can be found by clicking here and
entering your zip and address:

http://capwiz.com/nra/officials/congress

Say something like this:

"Please have the Senator [Congressman] contact the Department of the
Interior's Secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, and ask him to overturn the
National Park Service's rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's Petition for Rule Making. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to carry a handgun to defend themselves while visiting a
National Park if the state in which the park is located allows such
carry!"

PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT CONGRESS' TELEPHONE LINES TO LIGHT UP
AS BRIGHTLY AS DOI'S!

********

3. After calling your Senators and Congressman, follow up with an email.

Here is a sample email you can use:

Please ask the Department of the Interior's Secretary, Dirk
Kempthorne, to overturn the National Park Service's arbitrary
rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule
Making and to implement that petition!

VCDL's Petition for Rule Making, representing over ONE MILLION gun
owners, would allow law-abiding citizens to carry a handgun for
self-defense in a National Park as long as the state in which that
National Park is located allows such carry.

The National Park Service's rejection letter was not only asinine,
but condescending towards America's gun owners.

My family member and I are given but one life each. I ask that you
make sure that I can defend those lives while visiting a National
Park!

Please let me know what you are going to do.

********

4. After calling and leaving a message for DOI, follow up with an
email to Secretary Kempthorne:

Email address:

[email protected]

Suggested email subject:

Please approve VCDL's Petition for Rule Making!

Suggested email text:

Dear Secretary Kempthorne,

I ask that you approve and implement the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's (VCDL) Petition for Rule Making that would allow a
law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National
Park as long the state in which the park is located allows such carry.

The National Park Service sent a rejection letter to VCDL listing
four very poor reasons for the rejection. None of the reasons listed
legitimately justifies denying a person the right to defend the only
life they have been given.

The Petition, representing over ONE MILLION gun owners, was basically
rejected out-of-hand.

Please let me know what the Department of the Interior is going to do
regarding this matter.

Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]

********

OK, ladies and gentlemen - let's ROLL!

Please spread this alert far and wide! We need gun owners from all
over the country to make this happen!

***************************************************************************
VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL).
VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to
defending the human rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the
Right to Keep and Bear Arms to be an essential human right.

VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
***************************************************************************
 
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phone lines are tied up already!!

:D The secretary answering phones is very pleasant. She started off by asking if the call was about the rule-making and sounded tired already. Says there are "many, many lines waiting to be answered."

Keep up the pressure!

1. CALL the DOI Legislative Affairs and leave a message for the
Secretary of the Interior, Dirk Kempthorne.


Say something like this:

"I encourage Secretary Kempthorne to implement the Virginia Citizens
Defense League's Petition for Rule Making that the National Park
Service has rejected out-of-hand. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to protect themselves and their families while visiting a
National Park."

PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT DOI'S TELEPHONE LINE LIT UP BIG TIME!

Mr. Kempthorne's telephone number in Washington, DC is: 202-208-7351
 
I would have to agree.

Kempthorne's from Idaho where the wolves roam, so I would not be surprised to see him come out on our side.
 
Email sent to Kempthorne.

In Montana, this would mean that you could carry open or concealed in National Parks without a permit, just as you can on National Forests, state, and private land outside city limits. :)
 
I just called. The lady that answered was very polite, but seemed very tired of answering the phone. The lady stated that there were about 500 calls already, so I thanked her for answering my call and then gave her a short concise comment. :D
 
The e-mail address provided by VCDL doesn't work: exsec*ios.doi.gov

What's the correct e-mail address?
 
Done. I got the "secretary of the secretary", so left a message with her. She said thanks, and said she would pass on the message.

Nick
 
When the phone lines are jammed we know that we haven't done enough. Once Secretary Kempthorne calls Philip Van Cleave and tells him to "make it stop", then it's time to lay it on some more.

Dept. of Interior has had years to fix this problem and they've been stonewalling. Let's bust down the wall.

It's time to stop calling after the signs come down on the park entrances.
 
Agreed, we need to keep a steady pressure on for a long term. I've already set my iPAQ to remind me to send follow up emails (and make follow up phone calls) over a decently spaced interval. I really do feel like this could be an enormous bit of leverage.

Can you imagine if we pull this through and the crime stats for Nat'l parks drop! What a feather in the cap!
 
Did it. Not hard at all.

For what it's worth: In WV, we can conceal carry in our state parks. We probably have 10 times or more of the area of national parks in our state parks. Strangely enough, I've not read of any blood baths in the state parks. Why would there be any in the national parks?

Oh, sorry! I'm preaching to the choir!
 
BTT

very urgent

From Virginia Citizen' Defense League:

**URGENT** **URGENT** **URGENT**

Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) (http://www.vcdl.org/) has just learned from our sources on Capitol Hill that the Department of the Interior (DOI) is **livid** over the National Park Service's (NPS) asinine rejection letter sent to VCDL concerning VCDL's Petition for Rule Making! See: http://www.vcdl.org/pdf/NPS_Denial_of_VCDL_PRM.pdf

That petition would allow a law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National Park if the state in which the park is located allows such carry. Apparently the National Park Service DID NOT CLEAR that rejection letter with their parent - the Department of the Interior!

The Department of Interior had been telling VCDL and key Congressional members that DOI would seriously consider VCDL's petition.

The ensuing NPS rejection letter made DOI look like fools and liars. DOI doesn't like that at all, and who could blame them. The word is out that the Department of the Interior is investigating how to OVERTURN that rejection letter and soon!!!

We have an incredible opportunity to save TWO years of VCDL work and pull off a victory for all gun owners! But we must make our voices heard LOUD AND CLEAR.

I ask all of you to do the following FOUR things NOW and URGENTLY no matter where you live, as this is a NATIONAL effort:

********

1. CALL the DOI Legislative Affairs and leave a message for the Secretary of the Interior, Dirk Kempthorne. Say something like this:

"I encourage Secretary Kempthorne to implement the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule Making that the National Park Service has rejected out-of-hand. Law-abiding citizens should be allowed to protect themselves and their families while visiting a National Park."

PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT DOI'S TELEPHONE LINE LIT UP BIG TIME!

Mr. Kempthorne's telephone number in Washington, DC is: 202-208-7351

********
2. Call your U.S. Senators and Congressman. Their names, phone numbers and email addresses can be found by clicking here and entering your zip and address:

http://capwiz.com/nra/officials/congress

Say something like this:

"Please have the Senator [Congressman] contact the Department of the Interior's Secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, and ask him to overturn the National Park Service's rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule Making. Law-abiding citizens should be allowed to carry a handgun to defend themselves while visiting a National Park if the state in which the park is located allows such carry!"

PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT CONGRESS' TELEPHONE LINES TO LIGHT UP AS BRIGHTLY AS DOI'S!

********
3. After calling your Senators and Congressman, follow up with an email. Here is a sample email you can use:

Please ask the Department of the Interior's Secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, to overturn the National Park Service's arbitrary rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule
Making and to implement that petition!

VCDL's Petition for Rule Making, representing over ONE MILLION gun owners, would allow law-abiding citizens to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National Park as long as the state in which that National Park is located allows such carry.

The National Park Service's rejection letter was not only asinine, but condescending towards America's gun owners. My family member and I are given but one life each. I ask that you
make sure that I can defend those lives while visiting a National Park!

Please let me know what you are going to do.

********
4. After calling and leaving a message for DOI, follow up with an email to Secretary Kempthorne:

Email address: [email protected]

Suggested email subject: Please approve VCDL's Petition for Rule Making!

Suggested email text:

Dear Secretary Kempthorne,

I ask that you approve and implement the Virginia Citizens Defense League's (VCDL) Petition for Rule Making that would allow a law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National Park as long the state in which the park is located allows such carry.

The National Park Service sent a rejection letter to VCDL listing four very poor reasons for the rejection. None of the reasons listed legitimately justifies denying a person the right to defend the only life they have been given.

The Petition, representing over ONE MILLION gun owners, was basically rejected out-of-hand.
Please let me know what the Department of the Interior is going to do regarding this matter.

Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]

********
OK, ladies and gentlemen – follow VCDL’s lead. Let's ROLL!

Please spread this alert far and wide! We need gun owners from all over the country to make this happen!
 
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