CNYCacher
Member
Email sent and phone message left last night.
This activism stuff aint that hard
Here's hoping!
PS. bump!
This activism stuff aint that hard
Here's hoping!
PS. bump!
Need action on concealed carry in National Parks
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Outlaw Man
Member
Done, and another bump.
BobCav
Member
Did mine too, called and e-mailed!! Shameless bump!!
Smurfslayer
Member
BTT
BTT
I will keep the updates current; bighammer.net/timeline.html
BTT
I will keep the updates current; bighammer.net/timeline.html
ZeSpectre
Member
Update via VCDL
The Department of the Interior phone lines were lit up brightly with gun owners leaving lots of messages yesterday according to reports I received from several of you.
Today, as of 11 AM, though, they had only received about 20 calls according to member Hawk Scarborough!
We can do much, much better than that and must do so for the next week or two.
So, if you haven't acted yet, here is the information again from yesterday.
Let's make carry in National Parks a reality with Virginia gun owners leading the way!
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I need all of you to do the following FOUR things NOW and URGENTLY no matter where you live, as this this is a NATIONAL effort:
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1. CALL the DOI Legislative Affairs and leave a message for the Secretary of the Interior, Dirk Kempthorne.
Say something like this:
"I encourage Secretary Kempthorne to implement the Virginia Citizens
Defense League's Petition for Rule Making that the National Park
Service has rejected out-of-hand. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to protect themselves and their families while visiting a
National Park."
PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT DOI'S TELEPHONE LINE LIT UP BIG TIME!
Mr. Kempthorne's telephone number in Washington, DC is: 202-208-7351
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2. Call your U.S. Senators and Congressman. Their names, phone
numbers and email addresses can be found by clicking here and
entering your zip and address:
http://capwiz.com/nra/officials/congress
Say something like this:
"Please have the Senator [Congressman] contact the Department of the
Interior's Secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, and ask him to overturn the
National Park Service's rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's Petition for Rule Making. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to carry a handgun to defend themselves while visiting a
National Park if the state in which the park is located allows such
carry!"
PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT CONGRESS' TELEPHONE LINES TO LIGHT UP
AS BRIGHTLY AS DOI'S!
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3. After calling your Senators and Congressman, follow up with an email.
Here is a sample email you can use:
Please ask the Department of the Interior's Secretary, Dirk
Kempthorne, to overturn the National Park Service's arbitrary
rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule
Making and to implement that petition!
VCDL's Petition for Rule Making, representing over ONE MILLION gun
owners, would allow law-abiding citizens to carry a handgun for
self-defense in a National Park as long as the state in which that
National Park is located allows such carry.
The National Park Service's rejection letter was not only asinine,
but condescending towards America's gun owners.
My family member and I are given but one life each. I ask that you
make sure that I can defend those lives while visiting a National
Park!
Please let me know what you are going to do.
********
4. After calling and leaving a message for DOI, follow up with an
email to Secretary Kempthorne:
Email address:
[email protected]
Suggested email subject:
Please approve VCDL's Petition for Rule Making!
Suggested email text:
Dear Secretary Kempthorne,
I ask that you approve and implement the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's (VCDL) Petition for Rule Making that would allow a
law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National
Park as long the state in which the park is located allows such carry.
The National Park Service sent a rejection letter to VCDL listing
four very poor reasons for the rejection. None of the reasons listed
legitimately justifies denying a person the right to defend the only
life they have been given.
The Petition, representing over ONE MILLION gun owners, was basically
rejected out-of-hand.
Please let me know what the Department of the Interior is going to do
regarding this matter.
Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]
OK, ladies and gentlemen - let's ROLL!
Please spread this alert far and wide! We need gun owners from all
over the country to make this happen!
The Department of the Interior phone lines were lit up brightly with gun owners leaving lots of messages yesterday according to reports I received from several of you.
Today, as of 11 AM, though, they had only received about 20 calls according to member Hawk Scarborough!
We can do much, much better than that and must do so for the next week or two.
So, if you haven't acted yet, here is the information again from yesterday.
Let's make carry in National Parks a reality with Virginia gun owners leading the way!
--
I need all of you to do the following FOUR things NOW and URGENTLY no matter where you live, as this this is a NATIONAL effort:
********
1. CALL the DOI Legislative Affairs and leave a message for the Secretary of the Interior, Dirk Kempthorne.
Say something like this:
"I encourage Secretary Kempthorne to implement the Virginia Citizens
Defense League's Petition for Rule Making that the National Park
Service has rejected out-of-hand. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to protect themselves and their families while visiting a
National Park."
PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT DOI'S TELEPHONE LINE LIT UP BIG TIME!
Mr. Kempthorne's telephone number in Washington, DC is: 202-208-7351
********
2. Call your U.S. Senators and Congressman. Their names, phone
numbers and email addresses can be found by clicking here and
entering your zip and address:
http://capwiz.com/nra/officials/congress
Say something like this:
"Please have the Senator [Congressman] contact the Department of the
Interior's Secretary, Dirk Kempthorne, and ask him to overturn the
National Park Service's rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's Petition for Rule Making. Law-abiding citizens should be
allowed to carry a handgun to defend themselves while visiting a
National Park if the state in which the park is located allows such
carry!"
PLEASE MAKE THAT CALL - WE WANT CONGRESS' TELEPHONE LINES TO LIGHT UP
AS BRIGHTLY AS DOI'S!
********
3. After calling your Senators and Congressman, follow up with an email.
Here is a sample email you can use:
Please ask the Department of the Interior's Secretary, Dirk
Kempthorne, to overturn the National Park Service's arbitrary
rejection of the Virginia Citizens Defense League's Petition for Rule
Making and to implement that petition!
VCDL's Petition for Rule Making, representing over ONE MILLION gun
owners, would allow law-abiding citizens to carry a handgun for
self-defense in a National Park as long as the state in which that
National Park is located allows such carry.
The National Park Service's rejection letter was not only asinine,
but condescending towards America's gun owners.
My family member and I are given but one life each. I ask that you
make sure that I can defend those lives while visiting a National
Park!
Please let me know what you are going to do.
********
4. After calling and leaving a message for DOI, follow up with an
email to Secretary Kempthorne:
Email address:
[email protected]
Suggested email subject:
Please approve VCDL's Petition for Rule Making!
Suggested email text:
Dear Secretary Kempthorne,
I ask that you approve and implement the Virginia Citizens Defense
League's (VCDL) Petition for Rule Making that would allow a
law-abiding citizen to carry a handgun for self-defense in a National
Park as long the state in which the park is located allows such carry.
The National Park Service sent a rejection letter to VCDL listing
four very poor reasons for the rejection. None of the reasons listed
legitimately justifies denying a person the right to defend the only
life they have been given.
The Petition, representing over ONE MILLION gun owners, was basically
rejected out-of-hand.
Please let me know what the Department of the Interior is going to do
regarding this matter.
Sincerely,
[YOUR NAME]
[YOUR ADDRESS]
OK, ladies and gentlemen - let's ROLL!
Please spread this alert far and wide! We need gun owners from all
over the country to make this happen!
Jacka L Ope
Member
Done.
Smurfslayer
Member
Btt
Got a copy of a letter to newly elected Senator Casey of PA. If you're in PA, please give his office a call & email. We could also use help getting support we don't already have - Montana? Idaho, Utah? Plus there are plenty of members of the Senate that have reasonable gun records who would help us -IF we asked.
Got a copy of a letter to newly elected Senator Casey of PA. If you're in PA, please give his office a call & email. We could also use help getting support we don't already have - Montana? Idaho, Utah? Plus there are plenty of members of the Senate that have reasonable gun records who would help us -IF we asked.
ZeSpectre
Member
That's excellent news but we MUST keep the pressure up over time. I've set up reminders so I do "follow up" calls and emails later. We should also keep trying to get others involved on this issue.
Where are all the disgruntled Zumbo people now? Sheesh I wish they'd mobilize on this one!
Where are all the disgruntled Zumbo people now? Sheesh I wish they'd mobilize on this one!
Smurfslayer
Member
Don't allow transfer to a flunkie!
http://bighammer.net/timeline.html - in my contacts link I have a few DOI/NPS officials named.
IF you get transferred to either Jerry Case, or Karen Taylor-Goodrich DON'T WASTE YOUR BREATH!
Ask to be transferre BACK to the Secretary's office. DO NOT take no for an answer.
Case is the guy the NPS sends petitions to "to die". Taylor-Goodrich is the one who has been writing the "Parks are safe" letters for 6 years now. They are NOT empowered to make any kind of change, only executive management level Assistant Secretaries & Secretaries are able to help.
Also, EVEN if your rep / Senators are Anti, get them engaged anyway.
This is an issue of states rights, and one of administrative process or more accurately administrative process abuse. Tell them to call
David Verhey, the Acting Assistant Sec'y of Fish, Wildlife & Parks at (202) 208-5347.
Advise them to relay that their constituents want VCDL's petition to amend the weapons rules approved and published in the Federal Register.
http://bighammer.net/timeline.html - in my contacts link I have a few DOI/NPS officials named.
IF you get transferred to either Jerry Case, or Karen Taylor-Goodrich DON'T WASTE YOUR BREATH!
Ask to be transferre BACK to the Secretary's office. DO NOT take no for an answer.
Case is the guy the NPS sends petitions to "to die". Taylor-Goodrich is the one who has been writing the "Parks are safe" letters for 6 years now. They are NOT empowered to make any kind of change, only executive management level Assistant Secretaries & Secretaries are able to help.
Also, EVEN if your rep / Senators are Anti, get them engaged anyway.
This is an issue of states rights, and one of administrative process or more accurately administrative process abuse. Tell them to call
David Verhey, the Acting Assistant Sec'y of Fish, Wildlife & Parks at (202) 208-5347.
Advise them to relay that their constituents want VCDL's petition to amend the weapons rules approved and published in the Federal Register.
ZeSpectre
Member
Excellent point SmurfSlayer. Thanks for posting that.
ZeSpectre
Member
BTT.
C'mon folks, let's keep the pressure on this. We're getting attention but it's not even remotely a job-finished so it's not a time to get lazy
C'mon folks, let's keep the pressure on this. We're getting attention but it's not even remotely a job-finished so it's not a time to get lazy
frayluisfan
Member
One more...
Done it. Emails out, will call tomorrrow. Golly, Wally, would sure love to see this one go through! Having grown up out West, living in NC has been an eye-opener. We can't even open carry in National *Forests*, let alone National Parks. Grrrr....Politicians.
Done it. Emails out, will call tomorrrow. Golly, Wally, would sure love to see this one go through! Having grown up out West, living in NC has been an eye-opener. We can't even open carry in National *Forests*, let alone National Parks. Grrrr....Politicians.
ZeSpectre
Member
BTT Let's keep the pressure on. I sent my "follow up" emails today.
Smurfslayer
Member
BTT - since we apparently can't get a sticky...
Follow up calls this week. Please spread the word.
Call and get a status from your elected delegation in Congress. Get them to call you back folks, we need to keep the pressure on here.
Follow up calls this week. Please spread the word.
Call and get a status from your elected delegation in Congress. Get them to call you back folks, we need to keep the pressure on here.
Was anyone aware that there are NATIONAL PARKS in D.C.?
Check this out!
http://www.thingstodo.com/states/DC/nationalparks/index.htm
http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2174071002602&sa=X&oi=local&ct=authority&cd=3
If for some reason the Department of Interior keeps stonewalling, perhaps VCDL could start collecting donations for a lawsuit in D.C.
Check this out!
http://www.thingstodo.com/states/DC/nationalparks/index.htm
http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=...2174071002602&sa=X&oi=local&ct=authority&cd=3
If for some reason the Department of Interior keeps stonewalling, perhaps VCDL could start collecting donations for a lawsuit in D.C.
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