Ode to the .270 Winchester...

[Garandimal]

Ode to the .270 Winchester...

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"Through our guided hunting services, I am able to gain a great deal of statistics.
Without a doubt, the .270 Winchester has proven to be the most effective cartridge carried by clients in comparison to other non magnum, small bore cartridges."
- Terminal Ballistics Research -​

"Truth is incontrovertible.
Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it.
...But there it is"
- Winston Churchill -



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GR

 

[25-20 WCF]

Okay, I get it. The .270 WCF is magic. That’s the truth. Very nice. Next.


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[ontarget]

You sure do love your .270 don't you! That's totally cool with me. If I didn't have chamberings on both sides of .270 I might have gotten one along the way. Keep shooting and have fun with the cartridge you love.

 

[troy fairweather]

lets be be honest the 280 rem is better .

 

[Glockula]

I don't know about most effective in all hands but my .270 had been my go to game getter for 23 years now. I killed two bucks with it l last year. One st 75 yards and one st 250 yards. For whatever reason I have mostly hunted areas with long shots available and the .270 has gotten the job done out to 350 yards. 130 SGK soft points have been hard on the deer population

 

[Garandimal]

lets be be honest the 280 rem is better .

While it has the advantage of the heaver bullet weights - the Factory loadings are fairly anemic and not widely available.

(Handloads are a different story)

It also takes 10 grains more bullet weight and gives up velocity to match SD, or has to give up SD and BC to match velocity.


P.O. Ackley was able to "improve" the .280 Remington - not so the .270 Winchester.

"But the 270 Winchester Ackley Improved was a different story altogether,
another customer request that resulted in a wildcat inferior to the
standard cartridge.
P.O. wrote that the standard 270 was already "overbore,"
so a 40-degree shoulder with minimum taper couldn't offer much
improvement, if any."

P.O. ACKLEY FIREFORM IMPROVED WILDCATS FROM CURRENT FACTORY CARTRIDGES
Cartridge --- Performance Gain over Factory --- Ackley Comment
280 Rem. Ack. Imp. --- 250 fps with 140-gr. bullets --- Recommended, 7 mag veloc. in '06 case
270 Win. Ack. Imp. --- Little or none with more powder --- Not recommended, factory 270 is better


"Truth is incontrovertible.
Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it.
...But there it is"
- Winston Churchill -



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GR

 

[mustanger98]

Well, IIRC, Jim Shockey... speaking as a guide... is on record saying he'd "rather see a client show up confident with their .270 than scared of their .338."

 

[earlthegoat2]

Many differences between .270 Win, .280 Rem, 6.5 CM, 30-06, .308 Win, and 7mm-08, among many many others, are theoretical.

Show me how any of these theoretical differences are factual differences on live game.

Then maybe I will drink that KoolAid.

 

[Alaskan Ironworker]

I have worked in alot of remote villages in western alaska, some of them have small grocery stores. The only available ammo ive seen in any village is .22, 30-06, and .270.
Thats an important factor I think.

 

[Olon]

Ode to the .270 Winchester...

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"Through our guided hunting services, I am able to gain a great deal of statistics.
Without a doubt, the .270 Winchester has proven to be the most effective cartridge carried by clients in comparison to other non magnum, small bore cartridges."
- Terminal Ballistics Research -​

"Truth is incontrovertible.
Panic may resent it. Ignorance may deride it. Malice may distort it.
...But there it is"
- Winston Churchill -



​

GR

Amen

 

[someguy2800]

Between you and my father in law I'm entirely tired of hearing about it.

 

[horsey300]

Between you and my father in law I'm entirely tired of hearing about it.

It's only cuz not everyone has heard of the venerable 6.5-06 nor the 27-08 nor the 27-06.

 

[Nature Boy]

The .270 is the mini van of hunting cartridges

 

[marksman13]

Literally nobody gives a damn at this point. Nobody...

 

[Olon]

I'm more of the camp of "the first hunting rifle that was really mine was a 270" so I like it mostly because of that haha.

 

[LRDGCO]

Verily, Jack O'Connor is risen.

 

[LRDGCO]

The .270 is the mini van of hunting cartridges

Funny, but already owned by the .308 Win. So, that's just copywrite infringement...

 

[rust collector]

Craig Boddington on Jack O'Connor: "He would never admit it in print, but in a letter to Ken Elliott he conceded that the .30-06 was a more versatile cartridge. I agree with that. Since 1976 I’ve usually had at least one of each, and although the .270 is only a .30-06 case necked down to take a .277-inch bullet, I see them as having distinct differences and applications."
There is no denying that the 270 has been so popular for so long that it clearly does the job well. No ability to improve? Gaston Glock claimed that for his gen 1 guns, and we're at gen 5 now.

 

[troy fairweather]

i just like me some 7mms plan and simple.

 

[Mn Fats]

Ask Garandimal what he thinks about the 270 win vs the 6.5 Creedmoor. He'll crunch the numbers in his favor on the 270 side.

lets be be honest the 280 rem is better .

I love it. And agree.

 

[Newtosavage]

i just like me some 7mms plan and simple.

Not just you. The bullet weight/BC/SD combination offered by 7mm bullets really have no equal in common game applications.

 

[LoonWulf]

7mm 4 lyfe!

I'm glad the .270 has such a staunch supporter. Every cartridge needs a rabid fan, otherwise cartridge "debates" arnt as much fun.

 

[Alaskan Ironworker]

Everybody knows the 6.5 creedmoor is pretty much a .270, as i put on my troll mask

 

[flip888]

What most people don't consider, is that most of these cartridges are basically the same thing with different names.
.270, .280, and 30-06 especially.

 

[horsemen61]

Hell I don’t discriminate I like em all big and small cartridges that is, yes I’ve killed several deer with the grand old 270 nothing wrong with it