Pistol/rifle exchange rate

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If all I have is a high powered rifle and this is a post apocalypse scenario, I'd be very tempted to trade IF there is a long barreled .22lr available with several bricks of ammo (at least 3x more than what I have for my high powered rifle).

This assumes that the world population has diminished enough that I don't expect to be fighting off a huge angry mob at any point.

If large organized roaving bands of cannibals are a concern, I'll keep my rifle, thanks
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
You are walking through the wastelands one day and run into a trader pushing a hand cart with a tarp over it.
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Post apocalypse, someone passes by all of the no trespassing signs to enter our property, no need to trade, they brought me a cart full of guns and whatever else they had.
 
I am honestly considering trading my nice old Remington 760 '06 with Weaver 6x W scope for a .22 handgun. But my circumstances are a bit different, on my next birthday I'll be 80 and I have a second deer rifle also.
 
I'd be armed with an Ak of some kind.
You'd be surprised how many spam cans of ammo for those you find in old Chinese bunkers.

If I was heading to a settlement, yeah a few handguns would be a better idea. Unless I was settling on the top of Tenpenny Tower (Fallout 3 players anyone?)
Imagine you're in a settlement and you do need something concealable to deal with gangsters and mobs. But if I'm part of the defense team defending the town from incoming raiders or the like, then the rifle is still the better thing to have.

Also ammo availability. If finding ammo for pistols was easier than for rifles then i might do it. In that case, a 357/38 would be my choice. Easier to reload for handguns. So I'd take that Python. I'd take several Glocks, one in 9mm, 40, and 357. And then a 1911, in .45 (or maybe a Glock 21 instead if he has one)
The cherry on top would be a .44 Magnum (for hunting or for Super Mutants) If he has one of those, i'd take that as the seal of the Bargain. So in short, my receit:

Colt Python, stainless.
Glock 19 or 17
Glock 23
Glock 32
1911
Ruger Blackhawk OR Redhawk OR Smtih & Wesson 29

Price: My AK 47 in 7.62
 
Ignoring the post apocalyptic scenario implied by the OP, the general question seems to be, "Would you trade a rifle for one or more handguns and, if so, what handguns would you want in trade?" The short answer for me is "not likely." Put the same question in the context of a local gun show and I'm more likely to trade a couple of my handguns for a desirable rifle.
 
Since we all know there are no dystopian wastelands in this world known as THR . . . :ninja:

In the urban/suburban environments I find myself in, a handgun is more useful because it can be carried more easily and more often.

So, if my rifle was some sort of plastic stocked economy bolt action, I figure it would be worth trading for one economy model autoloading pistol. Something like a Ruger American Rifle for a Glock.
 
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NIGHTLORD40K said:
I'm a little surprised nobody offered to barter for all 50, though. You could hide a few for emergencies, arm some friends and allies, trade away. . .
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The word "wasteland" was decisive to me. From hailing distance outwards, a rifle is so much more useful than a pistol that I wouldn't carry the two extra pounds.

If we're in an urban cesspit where engagements might evolve inside 30', cover may be near at hand, and concealment might be vital. . . now we can talk.
 
If we were to ignore the "wasteland", I suppose we could ask this another way:

If for the purposes of defense, you could only have either rifles or conventional handguns (no AR pistols allowed), which would you choose?

I'm betting that in modern day society, most people would prefer handguns because they're more portable, maneuverable and concealable. But maybe some would not?
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
he says. "I see ya got yerself a nice rifle there, but no sidearm. Any chance you'd wanna trade for some of these?"

... Money is not a thing anymore, so the value of the merchant's wares is strictly based on their utility.
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Here's my answer:

World War II - You are walking through the wastelands of Europe one day and run into a trader pushing a hand cart ... full of handguns, all of good quality and serviceable condition ... at least 50 pistols of all shapes and sizes, all fully loaded and even a few spare magazines and such ... do you really want to trade your trusty (M1 Garand) and its adequate ammunition supply for any number of handguns? No

Vietnam - You are walking through the wastelands of Vietnam one day and run into a trader pushing a hand cart ... full of handguns, all of good quality and serviceable condition ... at least 50 pistols of all shapes and sizes, all fully loaded and even a few spare magazines and such ... do you really want to trade your trusty (AK47) and its adequate ammunition supply for any number of handguns? No

Gulf War - You are walking through the wastelands of Iraq one day and run into a trader pushing a hand cart ... full of handguns, all of good quality and serviceable condition ... at least 50 pistols of all shapes and sizes, all fully loaded and even a few spare magazines and such ... do you really want to trade your trusty (M16) and its adequate ammunition supply for any number of handguns? No

USA 2022 - You are walking through the wastelands of [Any metropolitan city] one day and run into a trader pushing a hand cart ... full of handguns, all of good quality and serviceable condition ... at least 50 pistols of all shapes and sizes, all fully loaded and even a few spare magazines and such ... do you really want to trade your trusty (AR15) and its adequate ammunition supply for any number of handguns? No
 
In the spirit of this (and it's a cool thought exercise), if I were toting something pedestrian, say an Axis in 7-08 and the peddler had, say, a Colt Commercial .38super in Royal Blue?
[insert rapid motion blur]

If I'm carrying a built-to-purpose Carbine in 6arc and the peddler just has, oh G-19, or Daggers?
Probably not.

A 10/22 for a G17--maybe.

As above, if the trade is my only long arm for a pistol, then no (unless the long arm is a pike or halberd or the like).

Also, having long ago been taught the Riddle of the Djinn, no, I'll not take multiple pistols for my one rifle (unless we are pitching this as a purely financial transaction--which is not my read of OP).
 
LiveLife said:
I hope 22LR is not your definition of "high-powered"
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Better than a Daisy Red Ryder [:)] or an H&R single-shot in .22short.

Was being alliterative and using "high powered" to equate to "higher priced" (gack, seen 10/22 prices lately? o_O)

So, yes, I, too, was bending OP's premise.
I'm not trading a 10" chef's knife for a paring knife (or an oyster knife for that matter). Neither am I like to trade $1000 for $600, either. But, my inclinations do not obviate the novelty of OP's proposition.

Back to that supposition (and bending it a bit)--would I trade a 30-40krag for a an XP-100 in 308? There's a maybe. But, I'm too familiar to how uncomfortable an 308 XP-100 is, and the only edge it would have over a krag would be the scope. Maybe. Oops, now I'm suggesting a 30-40 as "high power" as well.

Dang it, this is hard. [:)]
 
Heir Kommt Die Sonne said:
I'd be armed with an Ak of some kind.
You'd be surprised how many spam cans of ammo for those you find in old Chinese bunkers.

If I was heading to a settlement, yeah a few handguns would be a better idea. Unless I was settling on the top of Tenpenny Tower (Fallout 3 players anyone?)
Imagine you're in a settlement and you do need something concealable to deal with gangsters and mobs. But if I'm part of the defense team defending the town from incoming raiders or the like, then the rifle is still the better thing to have.

Also ammo availability. If finding ammo for pistols was easier than for rifles then i might do it. In that case, a 357/38 would be my choice. Easier to reload for handguns. So I'd take that Python. I'd take several Glocks, one in 9mm, 40, and 357. And then a 1911, in .45 (or maybe a Glock 21 instead if he has one)
The cherry on top would be a .44 Magnum (for hunting or for Super Mutants) If he has one of those, i'd take that as the seal of the Bargain. So in short, my receit:

Colt Python, stainless.
Glock 19 or 17
Glock 23
Glock 32
1911
Ruger Blackhawk OR Redhawk OR Smtih & Wesson 29

Price: My AK 47 in 7.62
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Good answer!
 
NIGHTLORRD40K: No trade would now be considered.

Quite frankly, handgun shooting has become rather boring, due to the enjoyment shooting my centerfire rifles.

I sold 3,000 rds. of basic 9x19 ammo to a buddy to finance most of the 2,500 rds. of .308 I bought (over the last month), while the new PTR-91 was being processed/ shipping.
Still have a chunk of 9mm, but one round of 7.62x39 or .308 , for me, is more fun than three rounds of 9mm - even on the metal plates we use at AP ranges, allowed only for handgun ammo.

The "Forbidden" subject here is most welcome on AKfiles.

bannockburn: one day a lever-action rifle would be cool to own And shoot.
 
Terry G said:
No chance of that. I fired an M-16A1 a LOT, the 1911 I carried not once.
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Were you guarded by others whilst you slept, ate, cleaned yourself?

In combat, a pistol is not as powerful or effective as a rifle. I think we all realize that. But a pistol can be on the body at times when a rifle cannot. Those tend to be the times we are in the most compromised of positions. Effectiveness in combat is not unimportant. But daily chores and needs are more a priority in my opinion.
 
WrongHanded said:
Were you guarded by others whilst you slept, ate, cleaned yourself?

In combat, a pistol is not as powerful or effective as a rifle. I think we all realize that. But a pistol can be on the body at times when a rifle cannot. Those tend to be the times we are in the most compromised of positions. Effectiveness in combat is not unimportant. But daily chores and needs are more a priority in my opinion.
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Yes. I admit that old 1911 was a comfort when sleeping (or trying to) in a foxhole, but the M-16 A1 was a lot more of a comfort always. I have to say the rattly ole 1911 was a tack driver as long as you used a very large tack and placed it dead center and then aimed over the left shoulder of the target about a foot. The M-16 was carried with you always. Eating, sleeping, to the latrine and to the shower point.
 
Terry G said:
Yes. I admit that old 1911 was a comfort when sleeping (or trying to) in a foxhole, but the M-16 A1 was a lot more of a comfort always. I have to say the rattly ole 1911 was a tack driver as long as you used a very large tack and placed it dead center and then aimed over the left shoulder of the target about a foot. The M-16 was carried with you always. Eating, sleeping, to the latrine and to the shower point.
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Interesting stuff Terry. I admit I've never served in the military, nevermind combat. Seems like it would be hard to keep yourself alive with the basic necessities, without others guarding your back and a defensive perimeter of some sort. Though I can certainly imagine a rifle would be of much more comfort than a pistol when the shooting started.
 
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