Please educate me about H&K Handguns

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Happy 4th, everyone.

The large handguns I presently shoot include: 1) Sig 226 9mm; 2) Sig 220ST; and 3) Glock 34. I am interested in H&K handguns, but don't really know much about them. In particular, I have been looking at the Expert, the Elite, and the P2000.

What I'm trying to figure out is whether these H&K handguns would give me anything I don't already have or whether the addition of an H&K would just be cumulative -- i.e., another high quality combat handgun.

I appreciate your thoughts and advice.

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RFC
 
P-2000 vs. any Sig classic: P-2000 is lighter, has ambidextrous mag release, ambi slide release, interchangable backstrap, and an internal gun lock (FWIW). In addition, you can get a P-2000SK and use the P-2000 magazines. Sig offers no such option.

Sigs are fine weapons (I own three) and if they come out with a true compact and subcompact version of the SigPro, they will really have something.

G-34? I love my Glock G-19 and trust any 9mm Glock fully. I am not so sure about the .40s. Yes, Kabooms are exceptionally rare, but when they do happen, the .40 Glocks are overrepresented.

I have a P-2000SK and it is a fantastic weapon. I am really glad I bought it.
 
I am very impressed with the H&K handguns I have fired so far.
I have fire USP full size and Expert version in 3 calibers and the Elite in .45 acp.
Expert and Elite versions are amazing.
Function, control, reliability and accuracy are just plain excellent for box stock guns.
I like each and every version I have tried so far, even the .40 S&W caliber version, though as typical, it wasn't near as accurate as the .45 acp and 9mm versions I have shot.
I feel that a shooter who wants just one handgun and compact size isn't needed, then the .45acp or 9mm Elite may be the best choice going if the shooter is willing to pay the premium for this large and excellent handgun.
 
I carry the HK P 2000 V2 on duty. It's light, well-balanced and points extremely well. You can have different DA/SA and DAO trigger systems in it. We use a DAO system with a 32,5 newton trigger. The gun itself is utterly reliable. I never had it jam so far, and HK has performed gruesome torture tests with them.

Keep mind that the P 2000 isn't really a fullsize pistol, it is about as big as the USP Compact. It was pretty much designed around German law enforcement requirements and has been accepted as a service weapon by two German state police agencies.

Like all HK products it offers awesome intrinsic accuracy, but its size and trigger don't really make it a custom-grade bullseye precision gun. To me it's a really really really good duty weapon/CCW package.


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Trooper
 
Trooper-

The US version doesn't offer a 16 round magazine. Our version takes the USP Compact magazines of the same caliber. Unfortunately, they never made larger magazines for the USP Compact.


One plus US P-2000 vs. GPM P-2000 is the standardized rail in the frame. You can use any one of a number of weapon lights that don't chew up the frame.
 
I'm also looking at either an Expert or an Elite. Have 3 other Hk handguns. All show top quality design and craftmanship as do your SIGs. Just preferred the feel and functions of the HK. Did some reading over on HKPro.com and Park Cities Tactical and decided the time was right for one of these models as they're to be taken out of production. I originally was saving for a P2000sk but knowing those will around for a while...I get one of the othrers while the gettin's good.
 
Trooper-

The US version doesn't offer a 16 round magazine. Our version takes the USP Compact magazines of the same caliber. Unfortunately, they never made larger magazines for the USP Compact.
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That's a shame... can't you order them privately from Germany? HK might not ship them to the US but there are a number of internet gun shops in Germany that carry HK products. If you need help, let me know.

BTW I found the original 13-round magazine much better anyway. The 16-rounder makes the grip too long for medium-sized hands like mine IMO.


Regards,

Trooper
 
Trooper-

From what I understand, there are slight variations in the magazines between the GPM and US versions. They aren't interchangable. :banghead:

Of course, I have never understood why H&K didn't make the magazines interchangable between the full size USP and the compact version.

When my agency transitions to .40 S&W, I will be carrying the P-2000SK with the 9 round magazine, with 12 rounders for reloads.
 
In my ownership experience, I can get the same, or better, performance out of pistols (XD, glocks, Rugers, S&W, Kahrs) costing many of hundreds of dollars less.
 
Texshooter:
I agree with you to a point. I currently carry a privately-owned Glock 19 on duty. It does a great job within the list of weapons we are allowed to carry. When my agency transitions to .40 S&W, I will likely be carrying the very expensive H&K P-2000SK. I plan to carry it for all of the reasons listed in my first response: weight, ambi controls etc. I also happen to really like the LEM trigger. For such a small pistol, I shoot it fantastically well. If Sig had a subcompact version of the SigPro with the DAK trigger I would consider it. I shoot the safe-action triggers well enough, I just don't love them.

If I shot, say, the XD SC as well, I would go for that.

It is the whole apples/oranges thing. I am looking at it from a duty weapon standpoint vs. a pleasure of shooting thing. I would love a Sig P-210 for the joy of shooting, but really cannot afford it. Heck, in another thread folks are singing the praises of the Hi-Point. :D
 
RFC:
Are you looking for a particular H&K? If you want something unique, consider looking at a P7M8 or a little less expensive, a used PSP.
 
The USP series are some of my favorite handguns, but there is one thing that I absolutely hate about them- new factory magazines, whether 10 round or high-capacity, are generally around $50.
 
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