Potential dog incident

[V4Vendetta]

Here's my .02 . Let them approach the puppy. If the dog is nice, no problem. If the dog jumps on them & starts to remove their faces with it's teeth, shoot it. Then maybe your girlfriend will learn to listen to you more. I think that the original poster did the right thing except for not pulling the girls by the collar & putting them in the truck. I hope you listen to my final advice carefully. If the girl doesn't listen to you now, how will it be if you get married? Think about it.

 

[One of Many]

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I have been around big dogs, I play wrestle with my Australian shepherd and let him put my head in his mouth. ...

I owned an Australian/German shepherd mixed breed dog; it was never big enough to put an adult human head in it's mouth, like you see the lion trainers do at the circus.

 

[Master Blaster]

Here is my extensive shoot the doggie or no thread at TFL.

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95313&highlight=rotweiler+attack

It relates to me and my doggie being charged by a 120 lb rotweiller which had jumped the 4' backyard fence around its yard three years ago.

BTW I now carry a 26" ASP collapsable baton whenever we go for a walk cause you just never know, and I felt I jneeded something short of a gun but decided pepper spray aint the answer (hint Wind)

 

[M.E.Eldridge]

The only "doggies" that I've ever shot are coyotes, one of which I killed with my Yugo SKS yesterday. They were messing with my lab, which is my property. For all I know, they could have been rabid.

In my opinon, anytime you see an animal that looks to be a threat (its growling, baring fangs, foaming at the mouth, has a small child hanging from its jaws etc.), assume it means you some ill-intent. That doesn't mean you need to kill it, but you should be ready to defend yourself. Just because its a fury thing doesn't make it your peaceful earth brother.

I read a few articles on what to do if attacked by a grizz and they all seem to agree that often times a bear charge is just a bluff. Maybe they're right, but if Mr.Brown is charging me, growling or popping his teeth I'm not going to wait to see if he wants to kill me or if he just wants to mess with my head. I'm going to take action. I might use bear spray if he is a way off, but if I would have a gun at the ready.

Now, my only experience with bears deals with the Black variety that you find in the midwest. My uncle was deathly afraid of them and refused to go anywhere in the woods without his 45/70. Maybe he was over reacting, but if the S did hit the Fan, so to speak, he would have been ready.

My latest issue of Outdoor Life has an article about a man who was stalked and killed by wolves in Saskatchewan(I spelled that wrong, didn't I?). Certainly a wolve-dog hybrid would have enough will to defend itself with lethal force. Add to this the fact that Lassie doesn't have to put up with self defense laws and always has a set of weapons on him and he is real threat.

Hell, I've even heard of coyotes attacking small children. Now, most of the time the "puppy" would probably be harmless, but never assume anything.

 

[ArmedBear]

The only "doggies" that I've ever shot are coyotes, one of which I killed with my Yugo SKS yesterday. They were messing with my lab, which is my property. For all I know, they could have been rabid.

In my opinon, anytime you see an animal that looks to be a threat (its growling, baring fangs, foaming at the mouth, has a small child hanging from its jaws etc.), assume it means you some ill-intent. That doesn't mean you need to kill it, but you should be ready to defend yourself. Just because its a fury thing doesn't make it your peaceful earth brother.

Exactly.

My reaction to this thread was to the ignorant bloodthirsty attitude some people seem to have towards others' pets, and apparently towards the world in general. Self-defense is an inalienable right, but it's no excuse to become a rotten human being. Carrying a gun means having to live up to a HIGHER standard, not a lower one.

And remember, birds, too, can be dangerous, especially edible birds for some reason. I was brutally attacked by doves and quail over the past few months. Some people might think they were just flying away, but I knew better. They were regrouping so they could fly back in formation and come in for the kill. No way I was going to let that happen!

 

[ruttdigger]

Something we can all learn from dogs is they are always on the ready for a fight or flight. Dogs arent usually targets...

 

[Mornard]

Did you overreact? Probably, though I weren't there. You did react in a way that would psychologically make them resist you, however. As far as the dog goes, he may have been harmless, may have been a danger. Your outputting of nervous energy couldn't have helped. Most dogs are cool, and usually the bigger the better. However, if it was truly a wolf hybrid - that's a whole 'nother story, and they do not react like normal dogs - because they aren't.

Bottom line?? I oncet got my ass kicked by a beagle, so what the hell do I know...?

 

[ArmedBear]

Your outputting of nervous energy couldn't have helped.

Domestic canines are amazingly able to read our emotions. They use smell, the sounds of our voices, body language, etc.

What they don't know is WHY we are showing emotions.

Nervousness, fear, etc. signal the dog to be afraid. A calm and nurturing attitude expressed to a dog will signal the dog to be calm and feel safe.

HOWEVER... Some dogs are afraid of anything and anyone due to past experience, genetics, etc. Not all dogs will respond in the same way.

But freaking out will generally signal to a dog that there is a threat somewhere. Maybe the threat is you.

Wolf hybrids are a mixed bag. There are 1/4 wolves and 7/8 wolves. I've seen a 7/8 timberwolf that was trained like a German police dog, perfectly behaved and following hand signals like a robot. The dog would sit calmly next to you, or it could attack you and pin you down, depending on its owner's signal to it. And it was a HUGE dog, 200 lb. or so. But some sure do seem more like wild animals than domestic canines. It can be the same with sled dog breeds, though.

 

[Mannlicher]

so yeah, you over reacted.

 

[depicts]

girlfriend Jenn and my roomate Jessica

I'll probably get laughed off the forum for this, but did any of you folks consider that "Malice" who wrote this thread, is a female?

I have to LOL at the way guys think....wahoo....he's got a girlfriend AND he has a girl roomate. I may be wrong, but maybe Malice will let us know

 

[Malice]

LOL. First off.

When I started my first semester of college it was a meet-your-roomate-when-you-movein deal. Him and I hung out with a couple girls who lived together in a different apartment. I became friends with both of them, and my roomate started dating one. So I became very good (nonsexual) friends with the other one (jessica) , and in time my roomate and hers turned out to be cocaine-addicts who stole our stuff for crack money. So we complained and since we got along so well, they put my roomate with his new girlfriend and put jessica with me. So yes, we live in the same apartment and no she is not my girlfriend, although I do have one, Jennifer, who I mentioned in the first post.

 

[shermacman]

Malice:
Head spin factor = 7
I can top it, but Art's grandma would not approve. Actually, maybe she wouldn't get it. Hmmmmm.....

Nope.

Life is full of things that you are glad you did once.

 

[Brandon]

a little of both

You shouldn't have gone ape crap and started cussing them, they probably just went further because you were being entertaining.

Be calm next time and go stand by the car where you can still help if bad things happen.

If doggy wants to play he usually holds his own ground while displaying playful behavior previously mentioned, they usually don't run in a straight line toward you.

If a dog is running at you growling, baring teeth etc... get ready for bad things.

Be really afraid of the ones that don't bark...

As in all things canine these are not hard and fast so stay alert.

 

[gezzer]

Malice , so are you a girl or a guy? Confussed or jealous.

 

[Malice]

I am a guy.

In hindsight I should have been more calm.

It was just frustrating at the time because I thought everyone knew not to try and play with stray dogs on the side of the road.

As for my dog having my head in his mouth; obviously I eas exagerating, but his favorite wrestling move is to open his mouth as wide as he can and chew on my head (gently). He think's it is great fun to get my hair all slobbery, and I think it is great fun to make sure I am wearing hair gel every once in a while. He doesnt like the taste of that.

 

[Fire4Effect]

So they start to approach the dog and I at first calmly say "Hey, dont go over there, what are you doing?" They respond with "Its only a puppy!"

Kind of reminds me of something that happened when I was a kid. Me and some friends were playing in the woods during the summer. One of the kids, who had just recently moved from New York, said "hey look, a cat!" at which point he proceeded to approach a skunk and promptly learned a valuable lesson about unfamiliar animals.