(Quote)Setting aside NFA issues and the AR arm brace nonsense, I wonder if anyone has any personal experience that they could share with ordinary pistols used with shouder stocks? I mean pistols issued with stocks like some models of the Browning HP or Mauser C96 and Glocks with aftermarket stocks (not full carbine conversions, and of course with the legalities duly observed).
I have always thought that the idea seemed good in principle in the PDW role -- a weapon for folks encumbered with other equipment or performing another role that can't or just don't want to carry a rifle. You still have the ability to draw and fire a pistol on short notice, but once the bad guys are in the area and you are on alert, attaching a stock and sling would make for a much more effective weapon out to 50 or even 100 meters. Yet the stocked pistol in any form is pretty rare.
Holsterable, stocked SMGs (or semi-auto variants) with the stock permanently attached (like the old CZ Skorpion, Steyr TMP-derived B&T MP9 and even the H&K MP7) blur the lines even further.
I am just curious how practical a stocked pistol is in the real world. (Quote)
Wow. Just, wow.
In the true spirit of the Internet, this topic has gotten four responses from people who have EXPERIENCE firing a stocked pistol, and about forty responses from people who feel compelled to share their OPINION.
As a member of the former group, I figure that gives me dibs on offering some of my opinion. As 'barnbwt' pointed out in his post, the holster-stock is not meant for concealed carry, nor for use with your 12ounce mini-micro .380. Full-size service pistols are the guns that have been given the stock treatment in the past for the obvious reasons. Drivers, artillery men, logistics personnel and such have always been the people issued pistols instead of rifles, because their job makes carrying a rifle impractical. Wishing you had an M4 somehow attached to you doesn't make it so.
According to their posts, the majority of the responders to this topic feel they can hit a pie-plate at 50 yards every time with their trusty sidearm. For the 99% of us that can't manage that feat, a stocked pistol would be a real advantage. A stocked pistol is not intended for quick-draw competitions or encounters with bad-guys in a dark alley. As long as the holster does not impede ready access to the pistol when needed, there is no disadvantage to having it except for some added bulk and weight.
The holster is a natural for the cheek piece, while the total 12" length or so needed to get a 14" LOP could easily be provided by a telescoping extension attaching to the slot on the back of the grip. We have the advantage of materials like carbon-fiber composites which would reduce weight of the extension to a few ounces. So, when you need the extra stability and long range accuracy for a threatened engagement, you unsnap the holster, extend the stock and snap it in place. What's not to like, unless you are one of the 1% pistoleros who don't need no stinking stock? Hey, somebody could come up with a 3-gun match that leaves out the rifle and substitutes the same pistol but with the stock.
By the way, add one more stocked pistol: the Beretta 93R, which even in 3-shot burst mode and with the stock attached is a handful to control. At least with the stock attached you would be less likely to cap yourself.