TexasGunbie
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I think everyone is familiar with this kind of lingo when dealing with private sale.
Example:
Gunbroker price of Gun A in new in box condition is 500 dollars.
Mr. Smith lists his used Gun A for 650 so there would be room for bargain.
You decide to send an email to Mr. Smith and offer him 350 since it's used, and you reason with him that the reasonable price for even a new one is 500.
And Mr. Smith comes back and tells you, "if you order this gun, you will pay 50 dollars to ship it, then another 30 for FFL, that is how much you save already when you deal with me."
Why do people always bring out FFL and shipping?
Don't people realize that the moment they try to sell their used gun, they will not get back the original price tag. And the FFL and shipping is not calculated as a saving for the buyer... it's simply the loss the seller needs to suck up. In my opinion, if the gun is 500 dollars new, and buying it for 400 dollars does not mean you have saved 100 dollars plus a WHOOPING FFL and TAX.
I don't know if everyone is following what I am saying... I guess I am just frustrated that people tell me that I low ball them.
I personally think it's fair game when someone mark their price 100-200 above used or new prices, that I can also offer 100-200 below new price.
Also, don't they always say, "I bought this NEW for my wife for 3 months, now she doesn't like it, barely shot 100 rounds through it. I had to pay FFL and tax, so I pass my saving along to you."
How do we know that they actually bought it NEW?? and not off another private sale for 400 dollars?
Anyways, get what I am saying? I hope people will read this before they go out and deal with private sale.
EDIT: A lot of you will say this is a whiny post, but that wasn't my intention, so read before you post or pm me and tell me I am a crybaby.
The whole point of writing this is to make people that are new into the private sale market aware that some people are overpricing their guns and set up their sale strategy in ways to make money off of you. The usual scams include "this is like new in box with only 100 rounds through it", or I mark the price of my used gun higher than a new gun because if you buy new, you will need to pay tax and FFL, besides my gun is new enough.
Many of you have said that if you don't think it's reasonable, then you move on. That's true, but I was sincerely attempting to bring these issues to people so that buyers can make better choices. Just like some people will rely on a car buying guide to become aware of sale gimmicks and tricks out there.
Example:
Gunbroker price of Gun A in new in box condition is 500 dollars.
Mr. Smith lists his used Gun A for 650 so there would be room for bargain.
You decide to send an email to Mr. Smith and offer him 350 since it's used, and you reason with him that the reasonable price for even a new one is 500.
And Mr. Smith comes back and tells you, "if you order this gun, you will pay 50 dollars to ship it, then another 30 for FFL, that is how much you save already when you deal with me."
Why do people always bring out FFL and shipping?
Don't people realize that the moment they try to sell their used gun, they will not get back the original price tag. And the FFL and shipping is not calculated as a saving for the buyer... it's simply the loss the seller needs to suck up. In my opinion, if the gun is 500 dollars new, and buying it for 400 dollars does not mean you have saved 100 dollars plus a WHOOPING FFL and TAX.
I don't know if everyone is following what I am saying... I guess I am just frustrated that people tell me that I low ball them.
I personally think it's fair game when someone mark their price 100-200 above used or new prices, that I can also offer 100-200 below new price.
Also, don't they always say, "I bought this NEW for my wife for 3 months, now she doesn't like it, barely shot 100 rounds through it. I had to pay FFL and tax, so I pass my saving along to you."
How do we know that they actually bought it NEW?? and not off another private sale for 400 dollars?
Anyways, get what I am saying? I hope people will read this before they go out and deal with private sale.
EDIT: A lot of you will say this is a whiny post, but that wasn't my intention, so read before you post or pm me and tell me I am a crybaby.
The whole point of writing this is to make people that are new into the private sale market aware that some people are overpricing their guns and set up their sale strategy in ways to make money off of you. The usual scams include "this is like new in box with only 100 rounds through it", or I mark the price of my used gun higher than a new gun because if you buy new, you will need to pay tax and FFL, besides my gun is new enough.
Many of you have said that if you don't think it's reasonable, then you move on. That's true, but I was sincerely attempting to bring these issues to people so that buyers can make better choices. Just like some people will rely on a car buying guide to become aware of sale gimmicks and tricks out there.
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