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And you're flat wrong. I've already shoved a 158gr gas checked LSWC over A#9 in a .357sig case. It's quite a "thumper".Except the Sig will never be able to shoot 158-200 grain bullets.
And you're flat wrong. I've already shoved a 158gr gas checked LSWC over A#9 in a .357sig case. It's quite a "thumper".Except the Sig will never be able to shoot 158-200 grain bullets.
The Ruger and everything else are heavily flawed because they're poor adaptations. Most are very limited on magazine capacity because they try to make do with something existing. The Ruger only holds a handful, less than half that of a 20" levergun. The original Ruger was too expensive to produce to be profitable.As pointed out they have been made in the past, like the Ruger .44 mag rifle but they make products to make money selling a bunch of them, and it didn't do that.
.357Sig just doesn't have the case capacity for the job, period
If you don't need the range, what do you need a rifle cartridge for?If you're not going to have commonality why handicap the longarm with pistol rounds?
If you're not going to have commonality why handicap the longarm with pistol rounds?
This very obviously is not about need, but to answer your question using an example my 300 Blackout and my Marlin 1894c have very similar muzzle velocities with similar weight bullets but even at 75 to 100 yards the Blackout retains quite a bit more velocity and momentum and will penatrate better.If you don't need the range, what do you need a rifle cartridge for?
In theory this is correct but most of the time the reality is that the guy with the V6 gets the same milage cause he's got to put his foot in it more to keep up with traffic and ends up with a shorter lifespan and low resale cause nobody wants the thing.I guess they're a handicap in the same way driving a truck with a V6 is a handicap compared to one with a V8. Yeah, a V8 is more powerful, but unless you do a lot of towing and hauling heavy stuff, the V6 will do what you need while burning less gas.
Given the velocity increase that occurs when you run a revolver round through a carbine (especially when shooting handloads powered by Lil'gun and H-110) They're really not much of a handicap unless, as CraigC mentioned, you're regularly taking shots past 100 yards
Ruger really needs to build a mini in something like 9 x 23.
But the bullet won't have enough power to humanely deal with game at the other end once we're much past 100 to 180 yards depending on all the variables.
I concede that in terms of numbers, "real" rifle rounds make the better large and medium game round. The trouble is that "real" rifle rounds are one trick ponies and are almost universally more expensive (and arguably less pleasant) to shoot.
Yeah, the big fast and pointy rounds win at math, but PCCs win at fun and versatility. With a .357 or .44 mag carbine, I have a light, compact, easy to carry long gun that I can use to either shoot low power, low pressure, and low recoil rounds at targets or small game, or I can ramp up the power level and be deer capable out to 100 yards .357 (which is really about as far as I should ever be shooting at an animal) or out to maybe 150 yards with a .44 mag carbine.
The 357 sig was designed to approximate the performace of a 357 mag in 125gr. While is an effective defensive cartridge, it is NO hunting round,
I think that's a great big if.I'm sure that A Ruger 357 carbine would sell like hotcakes anyway. I think realisticly it'd work well from full house to mid level (158s @ 1100-1200fps from a carbine length up to ~2000fps)..... If they could make it function with .38's as well that would be even more of a good thing.