Ruger Security 380 lite rack

[gc70]

You do realize these are the same thing?

DA is the same thing as DA/SA.

The only difference is what the terms refer to - "DA" describes the trigger mechanism, and "DA/SA" describes mode of operation.

You realize the post you answered was a year old and the member hasn't been on the forum for more than six months.

Also, the Security 380 uses a partially-cocked hammer, so the gun's action is technically DA without a true SA mode.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

You realize the post you answered was a year old and the member hasn't been on the forum for more than six months.

Also, the Security 380 uses a partially-cocked hammer, so the gun's action is technically DA without a true SA mode.

A Double Action trigger mechanism without a Single Action mode makes it a DAO trigger.

 

[gc70]

A Double Action trigger mechanism without a Single Action mode makes it a DAO trigger.

The triggers on DAO guns fully cock the firing mechanism (#1) before releasing it (#2).

On DA/SA guns, the DA mode allows the trigger to cock and release the firing mechanism, while the SA mode requires a separate cocking action and the trigger only releases the firing mechanism.

Like a Glock, a Security 380 has to be partially cocked using the slide (#1a) before the trigger can finish cocking the firing mechanism (#1b) before releasing it (#2).

We just need a label that properly describes the not-fully-DA but not SA type of trigger that Glock popularized.

 

[Shawn Dodson]

The triggers on DAO guns fully cock the firing mechanism (#1) before releasing it (#2).

On DA/SA guns, the DA mode allows the trigger to cock and release the firing mechanism, while the SA mode requires a separate cocking action and the trigger only releases the firing mechanism.

Like a Glock, a Security 380 has to be partially cocked using the slide (#1a) before the trigger can finish cocking the firing mechanism (#1b) before releasing it (#2).

We just need a label that properly describes the not-fully-DA but not SA type of trigger that Glock popularized.

The label that fits is DAO because it doesn't matter if the hammer is "partially cocked". Pressing the trigger: 1) cocks, and 2) drops the hammer.

DA/SA is a dumbed-down term invented in the early 1990s to describe a DA trigger mechanism on a semiautomatic pistol. DA/SA describes trigger mode, as opposed to the type of trigger action.

Then there's the even dumber-downed term "SAO", as if a "single" action trigger mechanism can do anything more than drop a cocked hammer when pressed.

 

[gc70]

The label that fits is DAO because it doesn't matter if the hammer is "partially cocked". Pressing the trigger: 1) cocks, and 2) drops the hammer.

Some trigger mechanisms can repeatedly cock and release a firing mechanism by themselves, while other trigger mechanisms can only partially cock and release a firing mechanism once without additional manual intervention.

Ignoring that difference does not make it go away.

 

[Buckeye63]

I guess I never realized this … Size comparison between the Bersa Thunder 380 vs the Security 380
I guess they are several members on HR that carried a Bersa back in the day.
The Bersa , being a blowback design was more difficult to manipulate the slide and recoil was stiff for a 380 being a blowback design also.

 

[Walkalong]

I wouldn't mind handling one/shooting one, but it doesn't look comfortable to me. I have shot the S&W EZ and it's a great little pistol.

 

[Buckeye63]

I wouldn't mind handling one/shooting one, but it doesn't look comfortable to me. I have shot the S&W EZ and it's a great little pistol.

My friend has 3 S&W EZ’s in his family
One for himself, wife & 22 yr old son…
All started by wifey buying one… then suddenly the little pistol was favorite at the range…

 

[Shawn Dodson]

Some trigger mechanisms can repeatedly cock and release a firing mechanism by themselves, while other trigger mechanisms can only partially cock and release a firing mechanism once without additional manual intervention.

Ignoring that difference does not make it go away.

It's still just a trigger mechanism. What the trigger does when you press it defines what type it is.

There are three trigger mechanism types:
1. SA - pulling the trigger performs one action: dropping a cocked hammer/striker.

2. DA - pulling the trigger performs two (double) actions: 1) cocks, and 2) drops the hammer. It can also operate in SA mode.

3. DAO - same as a DA trigger but it cannot also operate in SA mode.

Every trigger is one of these three types despite minor variations and marketing claims.

 

[gc70]

I wouldn't mind handling one/shooting one, but it doesn't look comfortable to me. I have shot the S&W EZ and it's a great little pistol.

Compared to my wife's EZ 380 and my EZ 9, the Security 380's grip shape -without a grip safety- is generally the most comfortable pistol to shoot. The grip is too short with a 10-round magazine and flat base plate, which leaves me with a two-finger grip. However, adding the pinkie extension base plate to the 10-round magazine results in a full three-finger grip. The 15-round magazine is the same length as the extended 10-rounder and its shape at the end is even more comfortable.



Below is the size of an EZ 380 compared to a Security 380 with a 10-round magazine and pinkie extension.

 

[cnj]

Love my Security 380. It replaced my unreliable 380EZ. The Smith couldn't get through 2 mags in a row without a failure of some type, even after a trip back to the mothership. The Ruger? Truckin' along at 350 rounds and not one failure to date. I realize it's early yet, but I am impressed so far!
Edit: I'd like to try another 380EZ and have it accompany my Security 380, but every time I get ready to make the move, I read another story of someone buying a new one and having the same issues I did as an early adopter.

 

[lincen]

I really like my Security 380 but still have intermittent failures to return to battery. It seems to be ammo sensitive and it must be I am the only one with this issue. Seems to function best with Winchester white box and decent defense ammo.

 

[Buckeye63]

I really like my Security 380 but still have intermittent failures to return to battery. It seems to be ammo sensitive and it must be I am the only one with this issue. Seems to function best with Winchester white box and decent defense ammo.

I use 2 types of 380 ACP .. Winchester Whitebox
For practice and carry and my hollow point is XTP .. thats all .. and thats what I have used for years in my 380s
Probably why I have experienced zero malfunctions…

 

[I like star wars]

I fired 150 rounds of 3 different brands and didnt have a single failure of any kind . 50 rounds each of wwb. cci blazer brass . ferderal ball . I Love this pistol .