98s1lightning
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I have a friend interested in the ruger pc carbine. I notice "old" and "New" models. What's the major differences. I see late models are threaded. I think some are takedown too. I'm looking to educate myself a bit on these.
School me on Ruger PC-40 carbine
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All new ones are takedown to my knowledge. Some are “traditional” type rifle stocks and some are “chassis” type with pistol grips and collapsing stocks and aluminum forends. All are heavy. Chassis are heavier. Mine has been great. Fun as heck. Kicks more than you expect but not bad. Takes Glock mags if that’s important to you.
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Is yours the takedown?
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I'm surfing youtube on them now.
I'm always leary of takedowns suffering accuracy. Never owned one.
I'm always leary of takedowns suffering accuracy. Never owned one.
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The new version has a FAR better trigger for one. They are take down which is very nice. New comes with a mag well that is easily swapable. Comes with one for SR and one for Glock mags. The way they are made looks like either Ruger or the after market will make more for other mags in time. You can get it factory threaded for a can.
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The PC Carbine's are just like the Takedown 10/22, there is an adjustment to make sure they keep the same POI when taken down and put back together. Now If someone was shooting these at hundreds of yards I would suspect there would be some noticeable drift with one taking it down and putting it back together. Few if any are going to be doing real distance with these.
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I had two of the original PC-4s and really liked them ... except for the fact that they used Ruger magazines. I'm a huge Ruger fan, but not of their semiauto pistols. I did some research to see if anyone was converting them to take Glock magazines. I can't remember the name of the company/smith that did do a few conversions, but by the time I found them, they were no longer doing the work. I eventually sold both.
When Ruger announced that the new PCC came with replaceable mag wells, one of which accepted Glock magazines, I knew I had to have one. I got one of the early 9mm units that had to go back to Ruger for tweaking; it's been flawless since. I have a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot on it, and it rings steel at 100 yards easily.
I'd really like to buy another in .40 S&W.
When Ruger announced that the new PCC came with replaceable mag wells, one of which accepted Glock magazines, I knew I had to have one. I got one of the early 9mm units that had to go back to Ruger for tweaking; it's been flawless since. I have a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot on it, and it rings steel at 100 yards easily.
I'd really like to buy another in .40 S&W.
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One major difference is that with the old model, the reciprocating mass for the bolt is hidden in the forend under the barrel. While with the new takedown model, the reciprocating mass is wholly within the bolt. Which means the old model could never be a take down carbine.
Old model manual. See parts page 30.
https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/rugerCarbine.pdf
New model manual. See parts pages 56 and 57.
https://ruger-docs.s3.amazonaws.com/_manuals/PC-Carbine.pdf
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The rear sight on the Ruger PC carbine is on the barrel, so in that regard accuracy should not be affected. I have a Romeo5 mounted on the receiver and it's been 100%. I don't take it apart and put it back together a lot since that function is not useful to me for my purposes. But 9mm carbines typically aren't inherently MOA shooters anyway so... *shrug*
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As I posted in the pistol forum, I bought a 9mm Ruger PCC Charger in June . It has run flawlessly and yes the recoil is there , which surprised me, be is insignificant . I put the operating handle on the left and put on an Aim Point M seies red dot I had around with a 2moa dot rested it has gotten about 3-4MOA so far at 100 yards set up that way which is good enough for me , the trigger is a little mushy but good and getting better. I am sure there will be up grades. I love the TD barrel ! so easy to clean the gun ! and when I put a suppressor on it it is perfect with the 6.5" barrel (hey it's a 9x19 !) . I use Glock factory mags, 17 and 33 round versions. The new 4& 5 generation ones lock up tighter but the old ones work fine too.
I saw and read the reviews of the S&B folding braces, from the day I bought the thing- for $620 out the door in Oregon in June when a couple hit my LGS. I was underwhelmed with the flimsy lock up of that unit and was planning to put a SIG folding AR tube braced on it instead. Then , last month S&B redesigned their 1913 brace with the TF1913 triangle unit which is trimmer and locks up like a bank vault ! I put one on and am in heaven, Optics Planet sold me the first one they got for $60 off so $140 , which is much cheaper than the Sig folder , or the original S&B folder. I am a very happy camper with this set up, it fits in my motorcycle saddle bag with ease, or a day pack.
I didn't know they are making a .40S&W version yet, and while I am a big fan of that caliber for concealment weapons probably would stick with the 9mm for cost and fun and utility. I ordered an oversize cocking handle to put on the right side of the gun, as the folding stock barely clears the factory one I have moved to the left for handiness. You can run both sides so with stock folded I can manipulate the bolt easily with the larger handle if needs be.
I love the little bugger. The bigger metal chassis Carbine is basically identical, and I heard you can swap that 16" barrel onto mine , that barrel has a forward mounted rail, so the sights would always remain on. But I probably won't .
I saw and read the reviews of the S&B folding braces, from the day I bought the thing- for $620 out the door in Oregon in June when a couple hit my LGS. I was underwhelmed with the flimsy lock up of that unit and was planning to put a SIG folding AR tube braced on it instead. Then , last month S&B redesigned their 1913 brace with the TF1913 triangle unit which is trimmer and locks up like a bank vault ! I put one on and am in heaven, Optics Planet sold me the first one they got for $60 off so $140 , which is much cheaper than the Sig folder , or the original S&B folder. I am a very happy camper with this set up, it fits in my motorcycle saddle bag with ease, or a day pack.
I didn't know they are making a .40S&W version yet, and while I am a big fan of that caliber for concealment weapons probably would stick with the 9mm for cost and fun and utility. I ordered an oversize cocking handle to put on the right side of the gun, as the folding stock barely clears the factory one I have moved to the left for handiness. You can run both sides so with stock folded I can manipulate the bolt easily with the larger handle if needs be.
I love the little bugger. The bigger metal chassis Carbine is basically identical, and I heard you can swap that 16" barrel onto mine , that barrel has a forward mounted rail, so the sights would always remain on. But I probably won't .
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Dave DeLaurant
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The earlier carbine didn't achieve much market traction, but thanks in part to the Glock magazine compatibility, ban state compliance and takedown features, the new Ruger PC series has reached the kind of critical mass where the aftermarket has picked up the ball:
https://www.cromusa.com/new-products
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/mag1076
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/570.htm
https://coppercustom.com/copper-custom-ruger-pc9-chassis
I recently pimped my own PC9 with a new Midwest Industries forend and SeeAll sight:
Despite the takedown mechanism, the receiver-mounted SeeAll produces one-hole groups at 25 yards. The little picrail section comes with the forend, and I have it mounted where I can slip on a QD weapon light when desired. Also added three RailScales to the forend for a firmer grip.
https://www.cromusa.com/new-products
https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/mag1076
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/570.htm
https://coppercustom.com/copper-custom-ruger-pc9-chassis
I recently pimped my own PC9 with a new Midwest Industries forend and SeeAll sight:
Despite the takedown mechanism, the receiver-mounted SeeAll produces one-hole groups at 25 yards. The little picrail section comes with the forend, and I have it mounted where I can slip on a QD weapon light when desired. Also added three RailScales to the forend for a firmer grip.
Gordon
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Here is the best review of the Chassis carbine I've seen 
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