Shooting out the barrel of a 10/22

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ive had my 10/22 for over 11 years now and have prolly put around 15k rds easy through it. ive been wanting to "upgrade" it with a bull barrel and a new stock. But its just as accurate as the day i got it. (well at least i think so) off hand and open sights i was busting bottles at 50 yards and blasting turtle heads with a rest earler this week. (maybe im just so used to the firearm that i know how to shoot it well lol)

ive been thinking i need a new barrel for sometime now but my results say differnt i can get dime size groups at 25yds and 50cent piece size groups at 50 yards with match ammo and this is a totally stock 10/22 well minus the barrel band i broke about 8 years ago lol 100 yds is a totally diffrent story.(i know you can get alot better accuracy from these little rifles but that is a diffrent thread)

my question is what are the chances of someone actually "shooting" out the rifling of a .22 caliber rifle? i was thinking that pretty much all .22 ammo is lead with no copper jacket so the soft lead would take a long time to actually burn out the barrel. if thats even possible.

what are your thoughts on this?
 
I would think it's imposible to shoot out the barrel on a 10-22. I use a lot of lead (instead of jacketed) bullets because they are cheaper. I have a Combat Commander that has shot mostly lead bullets for the 20+ years I have owned it. I have had the insides rebuilt once and have put at least 20,000 rounds thru it with the original barrel. I would think somethinmg like a 45 barrel with shallow grooves would wear out faster but mine hasn't yet. Because of lead bullets? I don';t know but it still shoots well,
 
shoot one out? never heard of that happening legitimately. ive heard of them getting cleaned to death. as in someone scrubs the holy poo out of it everytime they clean it and cause exessive wear. with the soft lead and even the copper coatings on them they just dont wear much.


anyway, if your getting quarter size groups at 25 yards, thats not bad at all for a stock 10/22. ive seen much worse out of a stock gun.

you dont need a new barrel. but if you just want one anyway, go for it. thats the beauty of the 10/22, you can play with mods and then return it to original when you want to.
 
yeah and a 22 is a very mild round compared to a .45! i always thought my barrel was trashed but then i started to really think about it and really all .22s are lead bullets with just a coating of something on them.

i read some where that copper jackted bullets where much harder on a barrel than a pure lead bullet.
 
ive looked at the bull barrels but they are pretty heavy compared to the stock barrels. (not counting the super light weight barrels that are big $$)

i would consider getting a brand new factory barrel for it but only cosmetic reasons the one i have on it now i duracoated because the blueing wore off lol

i guess i forgot how fun it was to shoot till i took it out this week. shooting paper targets is no challenge and gets boring. now trying to shoot a turtle sticking his head out of the water at 50+ yards now thats tuff!
 
Shooting turtles and shooting a rifle over water can both get you into trouble with the game warden depending on the laws of your location. A friend of mine was doing just that with me watching (fortunately, he was greedy and wouldn't let me shoot his rifle) many years ago. The local game warden caught him and it was not a small fine.:(
 
also, its kind of mean to just shoot turtles for fun. prairie dogs are one thing cause they are a problem, but ive never heard of turtles causing property damage or hurting livestock. if you were eating the turtles thats one thing, but at 50 yards over water, im going out on a limb but id guess that you werent wadeing out to fetch em for supper.
 
lol i prolly could have the pond was shallow enough ;) i dont think i really put a huge dent in the population of the pond. its like shooting a moving .50cent piece at .50+ yards. and wasteful killing of prairie dogs is no diffrent than the wasteful killing of turtles.
 
i was wondering the same thing the only thing i could think of would CCI Stingers and those are coated.
 
You're wrong; turtles reproduce much more slowly than prairie dogs. And you know lead pollutes waterways, right? Hence all those steel and tungsten shotgun loads?

You can't find a 50-yard range anywhere?
 
have some hard core evidince that lead polluts waterways? actually the only reason they use tugnsten and steel shot is so the waterfowl dont eat the lead pellets.

so i guess its ok to wastefully kill prairie dogs because they reproduce faster?
 
sorry dude, its way different.

turtles in no way i have heard of hurt or damage anything. and they are rare enough to not need thinning. they do not reproduce fast enough to become a problem.

prairie dogs on the other hand, dig tunnels and break the legs of cattle. they destroy property and they reproduce like crazy. they are a problem animal and they need to be thinned in many cases.
 
sorry i dont see the diffrence wasteful killing is wastefull killing lets not be hypocrits here. and as for turtles being rare not real sure about that one either. i havent seen a pond around here (or anywhere that i have lived) with a turtle population of at least less than 50 turtles living in it. they have no natrual predators maybe alligators thats about it. they eat baby ducks, fish, and just about anything else they can find and catch. ill agree i shouldnt have been shooting over water but only one person seemed to care about that.

i guess varmits are in the eye of the beholder ;)

this topic is getting pretty much off topic from the orginal posts.
 
Posts: 318 lol i prolly could have the pond was shallow enough i dont think i really put a huge dent in the population of the pond. its like shooting a moving .50cent piece at .50+ yards. and wasteful killing of prairie dogs is no diffrent than the wasteful killing of turtles.
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:eek: :eek: Just can't agree with you there.

But I enjoyed hearing about your 10/22. :)
 
lol its not supposed to be a post about shooting at turtles, more of what everybody thought about shooting out the barrell of a 22 and if it was even possible! :cool:

im dont really care what everybody thinks about my turtle shooting. if i wanted to talk about killing turtles i would have posted something about it on the hunting board.
 
Using your own words, wasteful killing is still wasteful killing.

Welcome to my ignore list.

And it would take probably more than 100,000 rounds to burn out a .22 barrel. I've seen "barn guns" that have been around for decades and were nearly smoothbores from all their use. They were still pretty accurate.
 
To get back on track . . .

Rather than discuss our individual likes & dislikes (the antis are dedicated to divide, conquer, and take away our guns, remember?), back to the 10/22 question. I still own & shoot a Remmie Targetmaster that my Father purchased used almost 50 years ago, at which time I sent 1,000s of 22 rounds out the barrel while shooting NRA Junior Smallbore. Since that time, it has served nephews, sons, & myself processing 1,000s more rounds & is every bit as pin-point accurate as it was back in the day. I don't believe you need a new barrel as it seems highly improbable that one could erode a 22 caliber tube due to shooting That being said, if you WANT a new barrel, go for it . . . I've built 2 10/22s . . . my fav barrel is a Midway SS model. Easy swap & complimented by decent optics, it greatly enhanced accuracy. You do add some additional weight, however.
 
EVIL TURTLE SLAYER!!!!

You should be ashamed of your self:scrutiny: .

Back to the topic, my Marlin has over 25K round no decrease in accuracy.
Virtually impossible to shoot out a 22 barrel.
 
you think its like that because of the all lead bullets? I used to shoot mine almost daily and got away from it when i joined the Navy. i just got it back a few years ago and still dont shoot it as much as i would like but really havent noticed any change of accuracy it still seems to impress me for being as old and beat up as it is.

Has any one ever seen the barrel shot out of any gun? not including military machine guns
 
Turtle Offsets

The latest thing in environmental stances is to get an "offset" to make up for damage you may or may not be doing to the ecosystem in another area.

Obviously, you are in need of a few Turtle Offsets.

I suggest freeing the neighbors dog. One mammal ought to offset...well....a heck of a LOT of cold-blooded turtles. Or you could buy some carrots at the grocery store and PLANT them instead of eating them. Or instead of using precious natural resources in your bathroom, just start taking a shovel and going out in the yard every morning to um...uh...Go.

Or ask your wife to give up hairspray so you can shoot out your 10/22 on aquatic reptiles. That would balance! Another idea would be to PUSH instead of drive your truck to work a couple of days a week.

Sufficiently offset, I don't think you are going to have to account for too many turtles when you arrive at the pearly gates. Turtles, in fact, are NOT mentioned in the Bible at all, so you don't have to worry much about theological questions.

PS: there is a school of thought that says buying an Inland Carbine at the CMP in April will "offset" everything from turtle dispatching to extra helpings of sweet potato pie. This matter is still under discussion.
 
Has any one ever seen the barrel shot out of any gun?

Experienced significant loss of accuracy due to barrel erosion in my 17 Remmie, but I put lots of fast rounds through it over the years. As a matter of fact, I was shopping to re-barrel when news broke of the 204 Ruger, so I researched, waited impatiently, and eventually purchased a 204 (or 2 . . . ).
 
To get back to the original topic, I'd venture to state that if the use of modern .22 RF ammo and barrel steels is stipulated, and your cleaning regimen is correctly done, you'd have to spend several lifetimes doing little else but shooting to wear out that barrel.

There are documented instances where 'club' and 'trainer' .22s, both rifles and hanguns, have fired more than 1,000,000 rds without requiring a replacement barrel. A beautiful old Winchester 52C I once owned, but regretably let get away under extreme financial duress, had been purchased new and used by both the Purdue University Rifle & Pistol Club and the ROTC for over thirty-five years prior to my purchase. It's logbook indicated that at least 380,600 rds had passed through its barrel and it still looked almost pristine.

Unless your bore gets damaged by improper cleaning, mischance or neglect I frankly don't think that barrel wear will ever be an issue for you.
 
well if they are not mentioned in the bible then there should be an open season on them!! now are only water turtles not in the bible or all turtles?:scrutiny:

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how many rounds did you have through your 17? and the 17 remmie is diffrent than the 17HMR?

cleaning of the barrel of my 22 is normally done with a couple pass's with a brass or bronze brush (not sure what those metal brush's are) then followed up with patches till its clean.

How much does the muzzle crown affect accuracy?
 
The Turtle Offset business.

In further thinking about this matter, it's obvious that many turtles are going UNSHOT that used to get zapped by kids with .22s, plinkers, farmers, outdoorsmen, fishermen with trotlines, et, et. We are talking NEGATIVE Turtle Offsets, or NTOs.

I think there is a serious argument to be made that you are shooting the turtles other Americans WON'T shoot. You might have a few turtle offsets to SELL!

I suggest setting up a website and Paypal option so that non-hunters, non-outdoorsmen and non-shooters, (in other words: Democrats, Liberals and RINOs), can buy the pre-shot turtle offsets that they owe. I think about a buck a NTO sounds about right.

I'd immediatly contact the Guiliani campaign and see how many NTOs to put him down for.
 
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