Should I buy an R51?

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I loaned my R 51 to a friend headed for an indoor range, he fired most of a box of white box 115 gr and had nothing but nice things to say. My pistol must have in the neighborhood of 500 rounds through it without any problems. The assembly iis forever going to be a challenge for my hands. Shoots two inches low at fifteen yards (45 ft) with a dead center hold.
 
A guy here was very happy with his new R51 through 650 rounds. He shot it last night. It did not make 750. Slide travel bound up, it would not go forward nor back.
It "got well" overnight and travels normally today. He said he would lube well and resume shooting... but not anywhere he really might have to depend on it.
 
Took my R 51 with me while shooting a bunch of AR's and ran the two mags I had loaded, still doing just fine. With all the help on the forum I do not know if I am pleased the pistol works or disappointed it has not failed. Seems like with every one of my positives there are those who report they heard of other R 51 failures, that is odd to me as I have never experienced owning a pistol that so many persons who have no experience with it still want failure as an end result.
I have been making these reports to acquaint others with my experiences with the pistol but in fact I am not selling them and could care less if others buy one. The R 51 has been different and fun so my money was well spent (I do however like the Cole Dist. FN High Powers I have acquired lately and shoot them more than the new Remington). If my pistol dies during further firing sessions I will be back to report otherwise I guess I have finished my rant.:)
 
Bought a Gen 2 R51 9/1/16 and have put 370 rounds of assorted 9mm through it over 3 sessions. And by the way, I bought it primarily for curiosity's sake.

The gun seems to prefer 115 grains as far as group size and hitting close to point of aim. the 124 gr and 147 gr loads shoot noticeably lower.

Major problem is that if I load 7 rounds in the mag the first will chamber and fire normally, but the next round in the mag will nose dive and get hung up. To overcome this I load only 6 rounds and most times the gun will load, fire and eject as it should. Rarely the last round will not load properly, but will just come out of the mag and not chamber. I suspect Remington needs to improve the mags if my gun is typical.
 
Ron, you must have bad mags and a call to Rem is in order. I had one round noosedive and that was round eleven and WW steel case ( does not like steel) and over 400 trouble free since . Both mags had malfunctions with Winchester steel case ( about twenty rounds shot) but none with American Eagle brass with over 400 rounds fired.
I have stopped looking for malfunctions now and just shoot the pistol for enjoyment along with my many other pistols that long ago proved their relialibity.
 
I had a gun dealer tell me this- If you like it buy it, if it needs fixed fix it that is todays gun market, I know for the price they are asking you would think it would be right, But in todays world that's just not the case, And yes it should be. I agree, But whata you goin to do about it
 
I know for the price they are asking you would think it would be right
:confused: How many other all-metal 9mm +P hammer-fired guns run only ~360$ (which I understand is the going rate for these at the moment)? The gun's actually priced pretty low, considering, always has been. It's both the reason the first batch (and the second to a lesser extent ) were so poor, and likely why the gun won't last long, being an obvious loss-leader.
 
I wondered why Remington brought out the R51 at such a low price point myself. With the interest in it from the get-go they could (and in hindsight maybe should) have made it better finished and a bit higher up on the cost ladder. But it does seem like the original problems were more from internal problems and likely would have plagued an even higher scale version had it been offered.

It's actually nice to hear that some R51's are working well! The early pictures of 2nd Gen locking block deformation seems to have been corrected...so they might hold up for a good bit of shooting.

Has anyone heard or seen a recommended life-span for these? Some of the little compact guns have been said to expect about 5000 rounds before needing major work or replacement...which for a compact carry piece would be a LONG time if it were similar. For a range gun...or maybe rental...that might not be good. Guess time will tell. :)
 
But it does seem like the original problems were more from internal problems and likely would have plagued an even higher scale version had it been offered.
It really wasn't them cheaping out so much as management incompetence, I'd say. Fact is, the MIM bolt & internals were among the more consistently-made portions of the gun, the slide interior and chamber being the most common weak areas (people would show pictures of gouges on the inside where the wrong-size endmill had been used to rough out the interior). I suspect a higher price point gun would have machined everything to similarly poor specs at the east coast plant. The real issue was that plant was closing immediately after the first run of R51's, a new project with lots of moving parts & visibility was being left in the hands of a skeleton crew with no capital investment that were all about to be laid off (and I highly doubt it was a surprise to anyone). My bet is morale was poor from janitor to plant manager in that place, and they made do with worn out or improper tooling while completely neglecting QC in order to meet quotas before the lights were turned off.

I always said it'd be a marketing coup to do the introductory run as Model 51 'lookalikes' with high polished/blued frames & slides, and some sort of fancy grip, then charge a premium sort of like the old Smith Registered Magnums.
 
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