Tisas 1911. Anyone run one hard? How do they fare?

A bud of mine got original Government 1911 drawings through a Freedom of Information request. He claimed if you searched long enough, there were dimensions that were wrong. I don't know what they were, but older technical data packages had errors, such that the inside was larger than the outside type of errors. The 1911 was designed in an era where manufacturing technology was a lot more primitive than today. Parts were made to a tolerance, but it took hand fitting to make them fit. Older firearms were made of parts that were not drop in interchangeable. Parts were handed to an skilled assembler who filed and fitted parts to create a complete firearm. The assembler had to be trained to know just where to file, bend, torque, to produce a functioning firearm.

In fact, if you read Clawson's Book on the 1911, Colt did not have a drawing package. Colt had a master model 1911, which worked. If the production line was not producing functioning pistols, the as built parts would be compared against the parts on the master model.

I believe this is a master model 1911 provided to Springfield Armory so the Government Arsenal could make 1911's, by coping the parts.


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Springfield Armory production engineers would have sat around a table with micrometers and other measuring devices trying to reverse engineer these Colt parts and figure out how to set up a production line to crank out 1911's.

Today, a design engineer provides a Computer Assisted Design model on an electronic storage device, and if the manufacturing instructions are there, the CNC machines crank out the parts. (Probably not that simple, but getting there)

The point of the matter is, I am not confident that the old WW2 era data packages can produce a "GI" spec 1911 that would function. I do not know what level of parts standardization is going on between modern 1911 producers. I would be curious to know.
1911 will still be cool 100 years from NOW! Love that gun!
 
Just ran a few rounds thru my 5” Duty received earlier this week.

75 rounds of 230 gr FMJ over HP-38
16 rounds of 230 gr Zero JHP over HP-38
16 rounds of Federal 230 gr JHP Hi-Shock
16 rounds of 230 gr Gold Dot JHP

Had 2 FTF on the Zero JHP and it was the 2nd round on the same magazine. Marked that mag and put to the side. Everything else ran just fine with the 2nd factory magazine and a Wilson 47D.

Groups we’re great at 15 yds and opened up just a bit due to rapid fire trying to see if it would fail to feed, which it didn’t after the magazine was set to the side.
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Just ran a few rounds thru my 5” Duty received earlier this week.

75 rounds of 230 gr FMJ over HP-38
16 rounds of 230 gr Zero JHP over HP-38
16 rounds of Federal 230 gr JHP Hi-Shock
16 rounds of 230 gr Gold Dot JHP

Had 2 FTF on the Zero JHP and it was the 2nd round on the same magazine. Marked that mag and put to the side. Everything else ran just fine with the 2nd factory magazine and a Wilson 47D.

Groups we’re great at 15 yds and opened up just a bit due to rapid fire trying to see if it would fail to feed, which it didn’t after the magazine was set to the side.
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target missing a whole center
 
Terrible shooting! Hardly any on paper! LOL!

I scored a National Champ in a Bullseye Match. I told him he was hard to score and he needed to spread the shots out to make it easier for me to find them.
I’m not going to Lie, my first match, Steel Challenge match. Had a STi DVC, Double Alpha everything gear. Look SO Good & Professional !!!

I shot so bad that I ran out of ammo and the timer guy said my gun is probably broken
 
I’m not going to Lie, my first match, Steel Challenge match. Had a STi DVC, Double Alpha everything gear. Look SO Good & Professional !!!

I shot so bad that I ran out of ammo and the timer guy said my gun is probably broken

It was great you went, and even better that you came back. :thumbup:

My first Bullseye Pistol match, I had so many misses. It was a surprise to find that I could not hold a two foot by two foot target at 50 yards with a handgun. I was used to putting ten shots in a nickle Smallbore Prone and thinking I was a good shot. Not with a handgun! Bullseye Pistol is the most difficult shooting sport that I have shot, and I still have train wrecks. Toot, Toot! It is frustrating, but they happen. I have improved, but it took years.
 
It was great you went, and even better that you came back. :thumbup:

My first Bullseye Pistol match, I had so many misses. It was a surprise to find that I could not hold a two foot by two foot target at 50 yards with a handgun. I was used to putting ten shots in a nickle Smallbore Prone and thinking I was a good shot. Not with a handgun! Bullseye Pistol is the most difficult shooting sport that I have shot, and I still have train wrecks. Toot, Toot! It is frustrating, but they happen. I have improved, but it took years.
I don’t care how bad I am! Shooting matches makes me feel alive!
 
i only have one, been a very good "least expensive" 1911 for my mini collection.

in fact, just the other day my order of mag release springs came in (Wolff springs, from Brownell's) and i replaced ALL the mag springs on all my 1911's with the #3, (lighter spring) and i gotta tell you, that Tisas mag release was the hardest for me to press, but now it's like a hot knife thru butter..!!


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The same with my Tisas. I replaced the mag release spring, the very heavy main spring and the crunchy recoil spring. This smoothed it up even though it was just as reliable before that. Great trigger and super accurate.
 
The same with my Tisas. I replaced the mag release spring, the very heavy main spring and the crunchy recoil spring. This smoothed it up even though it was just as reliable before that. Great trigger and super accurate.
think you can cut a few loops on the mag release spring and lighten that way
 
The local shop has them. They look really good and the store has not run into any problems. They have the advantage of not being imported by EAA.
 
The tias 1911 family of late is AMAZING

These will be the norinco 1911 of our time

They have great FORGED steel slides and recivers, they are building guns.

I own a tias 1911 service special, out of the box its a 7 pound trigger BUT it has big visible sights and I have ordered all wilson tool steel parts to replace the guts.

I paid $329 for the pistol and around $225 for the internal parts and springs, but I will have a "retro" 1911 with a 3.5 pound crisp trigger pull.

I may possibly be betting on a losing horse but I enjoy the tias 1911 of the moment and have no doubt with proper lube, springs, and ammo this pistol could hold up to the sever conditions
 
Are these a copy of the old Llama 380s?

I must have spent hours upon hours drooling over those in an old Shooters Bible when I was young. I didn't and still don't know if they were worth a hoot or not, but man I loved the way they looked and the fact that they were around the most inexpensive handgun in the book at the time. I don't think I've ever even seen one in the real world.
 
I must have spent hours upon hours drooling over those in an old Shooters Bible when I was young. I didn't and still don't know if they were worth a hoot or not, but man I loved the way they looked and the fact that they were around the most inexpensive handgun in the book at the time. I don't think I've ever even seen one in the real world.

I think they're a great looking firearm. I see them pop up pretty regularly on gunbroker and guns.com for $3-400 if you ever wanted to scratch that itch.
 
I must have spent hours upon hours drooling over those in an old Shooters Bible when I was young. I didn't and still don't know if they were worth a hoot or not, but man I loved the way they looked and the fact that they were around the most inexpensive handgun in the book at the time. I don't think I've ever even seen one in the real world.

I had one that I bought in the early 1960s. It was fantastic, accurate, near indestructible and perhaps the best .380 I ever owned.
 
I think they're a great looking firearm. I see them pop up pretty regularly on gunbroker and guns.com for $3-400 if you ever wanted to scratch that itch.

Off topic I know, but I did have a 22 version at one time. Couldn't get that thing to shoot two rounds in a row. Got rid of it, and never thought to try other ammo, or just try to find some new springs for it. Man, that was a cute little gun. That one sort of scratched the itch, but if a 380 ever turns up at my LGS, I might give it a try.
 
There is a couple of these Tisas posted over on the 1911 forum that have come apart...
 
There is a couple of these Tisas posted over on the 1911 forum that have come apart...
Yeah, when they were field stripped............
You're going to have to offer proof positive because I haven't seen it posted over there.
 
I picked up another GM in 9mm last week, and have a Commander in 9mm (Tank Commander, or whatever they call it) on the way as well. Would have had both but he hit the wrong button when he ordered and the Commander came in 45. :confused:

So far, Ive got around 500 rounds or so through it, and this one works a lot better than the Service model I got used. Its had a few feeding issues, which I think are mag related, but none of the "nose dive" issues the other gun had.

This came with two MecGar mags, which are what the rest of the mags I have are, and Im thinking they need to work on a few things there. MecGar that is. The issue Ive been having with them with this gun is live rounds being ejected while the gun cycles and once in a while, it causes a stoppage.

Ive got a little over a case through the Service model now, and I think replacing the extractor has got things straightened out. It seems to be running fine for the most part, but still has some of the same issues the GM has been having and Im thinking its mag related, not so much gun related.

It'll be interesting to see how things go with the Commander when it gets here. Im really liking them now that I got the one working, and I dont think that was Tisas's problem, Im thinking the guy who had it before me must have been loading the chamber and dropping the slide on it, instead of loading from the mag.

At least Tisas has the specs/dimensions correct, or very close to Colt/USGI. These seem to be a lot better than Springfield.
 
Are these a copy of the old Llama 380s?
Don't look like it:
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Link from the mothership: https://rockislandarmoryusa.com/bbr-standard-380acp-7rd/
Link from Bud's: https://www.budsgunshop.com/product...and+armory+51912+baby+rock+.380+acp+7+1+black

By eyeball, it's a knockoff of the Colt Gov't 380
 
Yeah, when they were field stripped............
You're going to have to offer proof positive because I haven't seen it posted over there.
Believe what you want. Go on over to the 1911 forum and look for yourself. One split barrel and a slide broke in half. Both with pics in the same post. No I won't go look and provide a link. Just passed on what I saw over there. Later...
 
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