VZ.58 Club:

[barnbwt]

I'd be a lot more worried about your locking lugs, in that case. They're itty-bitty on the VZ, so if temper is off, they'd be FUBAR by now. If they are not, I doubt the rest is either (it's a billet part; I doubt they somehow treated just the lugs in the kiln)

Most likely Century just wants you to send the rifle back so they can replace it, and see if the spaghetti sticks this time. If the gun otherwise works, that's an indication you should not roll the dice with the company just for fun

Did you find a mating shiny spot on the bolt/carrier? One thing you might do, is lightly sand/file the raised edges from the peening, and see if they reappear after a few hundred more rounds. Peening isn't really ever a problem, so long as it stops itself quickly. It's when the deformation forms a vicious circle that it's a concern (as is usually the case when stuff is slapping back and forth violently, but which can't really be the case, here)

TCB

 

[ifit]

Sawdeanz, thanks for sharing your concerns on your rifle. And the response you got from century...and hope they help you out on your rifle. Lately I've seen vz2008 owners with exact same issues posting on other forums. Barnbwt pretty much sums it up(great info).

 

[sappyg]

Czechpoint sells one but it's an overpriced bolt carrier with a seperate tab that you have to have welded on. You can't buy just the tab. Most folks just cut one out 1/16 flat stock and make it themselves. I would advise that if your rifle is under warranty, send it back to Century and have them put the extended sear in, which is their fix for the problem. My Ohio Ordnance uses a simliar extended sear and I've never had any hint of the problem, as it would be just as impossible for it to happen with a sear so long that it stays engaged longer than the cycle of the bolt. (I had early concerns about this when I realized my very expensive rifle didn't have a factory tab. After a few conversations with Ohio, I was assured it was quite impossible to develop this effect with the new semi auto sear, and if ever it did ever, they would repair it for free. So I stopped worrying about it. That's been about 3 years and 5k rounds ago.)

This sounds like good advise. Took the rifle to the range Saturday before last and had another weak strike in 40 rounds fired. Glad there is an easy fix.

 

[9thchild]

I've had one weak strike with my Century out of about 175 rounds. Will keep monitoring.

 

[68wj]

Some time with the VZ recently using different ammo. Impressed with the Winchester white box stuff. Pricy compared to import but a respectable group for a 5 moa dot at 100 yards (at least for me).

 

[nastynatesfish]

Ya I don't have a vz either but I'll post up my romy g. If that's ok?




Tapco adjustable stock
Ergo grip
g2 trigger
Mi handguard caa front grip and a bunch of 762x39 ammo

 

[Grunt]

Well, got off the train last night and figured that with the SHOT show having ended on the 23rd and PSA not having taken the sale price off, I would bite the bullet and ordered one of their VZ2008 rifles. For $396 shipped to my dealer, I figured why not. I still remember when SKS rifles were selling for $80 at gun shows and Mosin Nagant rifles were selling for $40 for the rifles and $70 for my mint M44. I don't figure the price will get much lower than what PSA is selling them for right now and if I don't like it, I'll just hang on to it until the price climbs like the other mil-surp rifles I bought back when the buying was good.

 

[armoredman]

nasty nate, it IS a vz-58 thread... Of course, that oddball battleaxe looking thing probably has a story all of it's own.

 

[nastynatesfish]

Oh Ya. Lol
My other expensive habit

 

[Joea132]

I can probably come right out and say I paid the most for my vz58. In CT, right before the assault weapons ban, I wanted a ak style rifle in 7.62x39. At the time, the vz58 was the only one that complied with the previous ak/caliber ban that CT had in place.

I bought mine the day before our assault weapons ban and paid $1300. I knew full well I was getting shafted but I was determined to have it. Then it came out later than Pre 1994 ak47s are now legal so I wasted my money for no good reason on a rifle I don't even like to shoot.

It stays in my safe as a reminder that I need to move the hell out of this state when I retire.

 

[armoredman]

Come down to Free AZ, Joe...we have areas that aren't blazingly hot all the time, too.

One rifle that was NOT at the SHOT show...I saw not one single vz-58 or clone, not even in the Century booth.

 

[coalbed]

Joea, do you not like the rifle because you think you paid too much, or is something wrong with it? The reason I ask is most AK owners that have a chance to shoot one like them very well, and more than most end up liking the platform better, myself included. I've owned 5 AK's and more SKS's than I can count, (I used to toss them in on trades to sweeten the deal back when they were cheap) and the one AK (MAADI) and SKS (model "M" AK mag variant) that I kept never leave the safe after I got my VZ 58. As for the price you paid, they are worth at least that much in terms of how well they are made, and as no company has so far started making new VZ's, sooner or later the parts kits will run dry and the price will shoot WAY up. I think you paid top dollar, but I also think if you hold it, it will be worth even more than that one day, and you have a fine defensive rifle in your safe. I don't know how many times I have wished I had bought several Draganovs, Tokarev SVT-40's, Russian SKS's, Garands, CZ 52/57's, and M-1 carbines back when you could get them. Look through an old shotgun news sometime and it will amaze you how high (or just plain unobtainable) some of the rifles are now. Almost all surplus military rifles hold value and go up and up over time. They made over 6.5 million m-1 carbines, and they used to sell dirt cheap, but price one today (if you can find one for sale). Just my 2 cents.

 

[Joea132]

The stock hits my cheekbone when I fire it and is very unrefined. I guess that's kind of the draw towards th ak style platform anyways though.

Armoredman, I'm 8 years into a firefighter's pension. As far as I'm concerned, I have 12 years to convince the wife to move up to the mountains of Arizona. That's my post retirement plan. I hope it's hers too!

The rifle isn't terrible overall, but it's just not my cup of tea. I guess the fact that I paid 4 times what I should have does burn me and probably affects my attitude towards the rifle. But I have a large amount of "assault weapons" behind the curtain in CT. And legally. So there's that.

 

[armoredman]

What stock do you have one it? The folder ended up getting a lot of paracord wrapped around it with most people. I went with the poly joint Zahal folder with cheek riser, and it made the rifle very comfortable to shoot all day long. Yeah, it was another $150, but it was worth it, to me.
When you can convince the wife, move on down, LOTS of wide open land all over the place.

 

[Joea132]

What stock do you have one it? The folder ended up getting a lot of paracord wrapped around it with most people. I went with the poly joint Zahal folder with cheek riser, and it made the rifle very comfortable to shoot all day long. Yeah, it was another $150, but it was worth it, to me.
When you can convince the wife, move on down, LOTS of wide open land all over the place.

It's got the regular chipboard stock on it. At least that what I always called it.

I'm incredibly fortunate to live in a house with adequate property for a 100 yard range in the backyard off the back deck. That's extremely uncommon around here. But the idea of going out and being able to find someplace with open land I could shoot 500+ yards on is hard for me to even imagine. I have always wanted to shoot long distance and I'm building up a couple rifles for it just for fun. And hopefully to sneak out west and maybe take a course or just go to a range.

I guess living in CT, the idea of being able to go buy any semi auto I want is a foreign idea too. Christ, we just had a mayor propose a gun ban in his city for any firearm that accept detachable magazines...

But back on track, I haven't given much thought to changing out the stock on it. What are my options. I literally know nothing about the rifle.

 

[armoredman]

There are some, a few choices shown here.

http://www.zahal.org/groups/shop-sa-vz-58-cz-858

 

[Bohemus]

I really like this stock Not sure if it available in USA.

 

[Maverick223]

Sic em', armoredman, this is the AK free zone!

Joea132, I prefer the standard issue, AKA: "Scythe" folder. That said, I have short-ish arms and mine locks up as tight as an AI folder (amongst the best I've seen), so I'm a bit biased.

Bohemus, I have definitely seen that stock before, but IIRC (& I'm too lazy to check) I think it's one of the many toys that you have posted here that we unlucky few cannot get here stateside...like those polymer magazines (that with a little luck I could mod, like the Al. ones, into 20s)...grumble, grumble, grumble...

 

[Joea132]

There are some, a few choices shown here.

http://www.zahal.org/groups/shop-sa-vz-58-cz-858

Now that is really interesting. Looks like I'll be modding it in the future. Thanks for the link.

 

[armoredman]

I have personally ordered from Zahal before, for more than one item, and I have had zero issues with product or shipping. Just throwing that out there, since it IS international shipping. Most Zahal products are also available in the US through Mako Group, I believe.

 

[sawdeanz]

Got my VZ back from Century today, so I thought I would share my experience.

I have to say that the customer service rep was very prompt and the process was quick and easy to follow. I didn't have to pay shipping either way. Turn around time was just about 4 weeks from when it was sent in. Looks like I just got a replacement, which is as satisfactory as it can get. Note just confirmed receiver peening/heat treating. The downside is the sights will probably not be adjusted. Also the mag I sent in got misplaced, so I will contact them and see what happened there.

Lets hope this batch was heat treated better.

 

[Maverick223]

Glad to hear that you had a good experience with their CS, sawdeanz. Hopefully you didn't just get lucky and their CS is improving.

 

[Bohemus]

One more option to scope vz.58
http://rrarms.cz/kryt_zaveru.htm
It looks interesting but I know no one to use it..

 

[coalbed]

Thats a very interesting mount. It looks just like the one I have drawn out lol. I was looking at putting a quick release clamp instead of the knurled nut and bolt though. Is $128 USD + shipping the correct exchange rate?

 

[Plinkin' Logs]

Speaking of interesting mounts I have one that I haven't seen anyone else with. Its a Ramlite (small company in Arizona I believe) magnetic dustcover mount. Not suitable for mounting scopes, but perfect for RDS. Apperently the slight shift in the dust cover always resets to a default position after being shot. My generation of the mount has "arms" that extend down to the sides of the receiver to hold it fast in place, for those who were not convinced of the idea of a dust cover mount holding it's zero. Mounts firmly enough to the rifle that I can hoist it up by the mount and carry it that way but rivals any QD in terms of fast removal. Also the guy that makes these puts a lot of care into designing the interior dimension so that there is no metal to metal contact with carbon fiber tape, and other such fancier. Like the idea that I am supporting a small time gunsmith/developer. I found it on ebay, not sure if he still stell them there or not. Hold a perfect zero with no issues with my trs-25.



VZ2008 with Flat black Cerakote finish and polymer furniture, along with its buddy, a Zastava M77 .308