What will the new Glock 44 eat?

[Master Blaster]

Maybe the next version will have the MOS, so us old guys can put a red dot on it.

 

[1KPerDay]

This guy had dismal reliability with RGB but pretty good with CCI

 

[tarosean]

Maybe the next version will have the MOS, so us old guys can put a red dot on it.

Unless they do a redesign I dont believe it will be possible given the 44 has a poly slide with a metal insert. I doubt a poly dovetail would stand up to the weight if one were to mount it that way.

Want an RDS there're several 22's that have integrated rails.

 

[LUCKYDAWG13]

Maybe the next version will have the MOS, so us old guys can put a red dot on it.

Just get a Ruger mark 22 and don't look back

 

[cougar1717]

In all fairness, MAC did a second video that included some of the tips and tricks from forums that people have used to get the G44 to run with 36gr bulk ammo.
Consequently, he may have also had a hand in selling thousands of TX-22's. If he is not already sponsored by Taurus, he should be - haha.

 

[Dan-O]

As far as I’m concerned it can eat my shorts.....

 

[helitack32f1]

In all fairness, MAC did a second video that included some of the tips and tricks from forums that people have used to get the G44 to run with 36gr bulk ammo.
Consequently, he may have also had a hand in selling thousands of TX-22's. If he is not already sponsored by Taurus, he should be - haha.

The tips and tricks I used were in this order: Load Ammo in magazine, put magazine in gun, rack slide, aim, pull trigger. Worked every time. It is procedure that also seems to work for the absolute majority of shooters that have one as well. Yes, there are problem guns which are to be expected with a new release. I just bought a Ruger 10/22 after years of saying I would never do such a thing and of course I got one that will not reliably operate with anything. There ware also numerous instances of Ruger handguns doing the same thing yet people don’t go around saying they are inherently flawed.

 

[AK103K]

The tips and tricks I used were in this order: Load Ammo in magazine, put magazine in gun, rack slide, aim, pull trigger. Worked every time. It is procedure that also seems to work for the absolute majority of shooters that have one as well. Yes, there are problem guns which are to be expected with a new release. I just bought a Ruger 10/22 after years of saying I would never do such a thing and of course I got one that will not reliably operate with anything. There ware also numerous instances of Ruger handguns doing the same thing yet people don’t go around saying they are inherently flawed.

This has been my experience as well. I just load the mags like I do anything else, load the gun, mostly from slide lock with the slide stop, and shoot the gun.

There was so much negative static and misinformation at the start, it was hard not to be paranoid that something was going to go wrong.

Then, when all the bad stuff never manifested, and the guns ran fine, and it became quite noticeable, that most all the negative reports, referenced the same couple of videos and bad reports, over and over, kind of makes you wonder whats up.

A lot, if not the majority of the posts made, telling you they were junk, they were going to blow up, and/or wont run, and to stay away, were made by people who didnt even own a gun, nor had they even shot one. But, they knew it all, and "see! see!, Glock screwed the pooch on this one!"

With the 44, I did something I dont usually do, and pre-ordered my first gun, and hearing all the static after I got it, wondered if I should have waited. But once I shot it, I went right out and bought a second gun and a bunch of mags, figuring that once people saw what they really were, they would be hard to find.

So far, Ive been very happy with mine, and dont reget buying them in the least. And from the sounds of most of the posts by those who actually have them, most are happy as well.

But, as with anything, the only way to know for sure, is if youre interested, buy one, shoot the snot out of it, and see how it goes.

 

[12Bravo20]

I’m always getting busted for my type-os. I’m a very bad speller and spellcheck makes my post readable.
I know I should proofread, but then y’all wouldn’t have the pleasure of poking fun at me.

I'm really gonna bust yer chops considering I was Army and you a Marine! Don't worry, there won't be any crayon remarks HAHAHAHAHA.

On a serious note:
I'm glad to see the Glock 44 working out for everyone. I just wish the durn thing would fit my hand! For that matter, most Glocks and even the Beretta M9 doesn't fit my hands. Other than the fit, I did like the 44 when I checked it out at the local fun shop.

 

[cougar1717]

The tips and tricks I used were in this order

Threads like this just get to me a little bit because the logic goes like this:

There’s a bunch that claim their guns don’t function well with bullet weights under 40 gr.

Then, nine types of ammo are used, seven of which are 40gr - which are the ones without the reported problems. The other two being Rem Subsonic 38gr and Armscor 36gr. I am glad these were tested. We at least know that there are ammos under 40gr that can cycle a G44.


However, these aren't the ammos that the youtubers had trouble with. What do you notice about these...... they are incredibly rounded. The Armscor has the bullet shape of CCI SV (or AR tactical), a shape that feeds even the pickiest firearms. The 22 subsonic is a 40gr profile with 2gr difference being the HP.

So, the devil is in the details.
What ammos did the youtubers have trouble with?

22 Plinkster had problems running Federal 745
MAC had problems running Rem GB's, Federal FR2236, and Federal 730



These ammos have a different bullet profile.
We know that all rimfire can have good or bad lots.

IMHO, MAC's FTF's with Rem GB's may not affect most G44's. It may be his mags or the box of GB's he has. Especially since others have used them with a consistent amount of failures that are normal for rimfire.

However, has anyone here used Federal 745, 730, or FR2236 since these are the ammos the youtubers are having trouble with in the G44?

It may be that the bullet profile has a bigger impact than simply the bullet weight in grains.

 

[helitack32f1]

Threads like this just get to me a little bit because the logic goes like this:



Then, nine types of ammo are used, seven of which are 40gr - which are the ones without the reported problems. The other two being Rem Subsonic 38gr and Armscor 36gr. I am glad these were tested. We at least know that there are ammos under 40gr that can cycle a G44.
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However, these aren't the ammos that the youtubers had trouble with. What do you notice about these...... they are incredibly rounded. The Armscor has the bullet shape of CCI SV (or AR tactical), a shape that feeds even the pickiest firearms. The 22 subsonic is a 40gr profile with 2gr difference being the HP.

So, the devil is in the details.
What ammos did the youtubers have trouble with?

22 Plinkster had problems running Federal 745
MAC had problems running Rem GB's, Federal FR2236, and Federal 730

View attachment 895056 View attachment 895057 View attachment 895055 View attachment 895058

These ammos have a different bullet profile.
We know that all rimfire can have good or bad lots.

IMHO, MAC's FTF's with Rem GB's may not affect most G44's. It may be his mags or the box of GB's he has. Especially since others have used them with a consistent amount of failures that are normal for rimfire.

However, has anyone here used Federal 745, 730, or FR2236 since these are the ammos the youtubers are having trouble with in the G44?

It may be that the bullet profile has a bigger impact than simply the bullet weight in grains.

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I have not tried those specific rounds yet. Hopefully I will soon. 22Plinkster declared that the gun will not shoot anything that is 36 grain but I had no issues with the one type of 36 grain Ammo I had. Still not sure what bullets are in those Remingtons I shot though.

 

[kBob]

FISwampRat,

Oh come one you know that no Floridian, even first geners and transplants can ever have enough .22 pistols!!

you know you want one.....

-kBob

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Threads like this just get to me a little bit because the logic goes like this:



Then, nine types of ammo are used, seven of which are 40gr - which are the ones without the reported problems. The other two being Rem Subsonic 38gr and Armscor 36gr. I am glad these were tested. We at least know that there are ammos under 40gr that can cycle a G44.
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However, these aren't the ammos that the youtubers had trouble with. What do you notice about these...... they are incredibly rounded. The Armscor has the bullet shape of CCI SV (or AR tactical), a shape that feeds even the pickiest firearms. The 22 subsonic is a 40gr profile with 2gr difference being the HP.

So, the devil is in the details.
What ammos did the youtubers have trouble with?

22 Plinkster had problems running Federal 745
MAC had problems running Rem GB's, Federal FR2236, and Federal 730

View attachment 895056 View attachment 895057 View attachment 895055 View attachment 895058

These ammos have a different bullet profile.
We know that all rimfire can have good or bad lots.

IMHO, MAC's FTF's with Rem GB's may not affect most G44's. It may be his mags or the box of GB's he has. Especially since others have used them with a consistent amount of failures that are normal for rimfire.

However, has anyone here used Federal 745, 730, or FR2236 since these are the ammos the youtubers are having trouble with in the G44?

It may be that the bullet profile has a bigger impact than simply the bullet weight in grains.

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I would have loved to test more 36 and 38 gr bullets, but that was all that I had. And I have over 30,000 rounds of 22 lr ammo. And 40 gr ammo is more common when it comes to 22 lr. I do plan to buy some more lighter weight 22 ammo to try in my gun.
Right now Target Sport USA has the same Armscor 36gr ammo on sale for .04 cents a round.
You also have to look at it from a different direction. How do YouTubers make their money? By getting people to watch their videos. What way to get a bunch of people to watch your video, bash the new Glock, and the Glock Haters will flock to your channel. Now I’m not saying that Mac or 22 Plinkster didn’t a bad video on purpose, but I think others have. Because if you watch someone’s video where they had trouble with a type of ammo, and you get the same ammo to do you own video, you pretty much know how things will go.
Now the thing about 22 Plinkkster is that the gun didn’t function with his favorite ammo, which was a Federal 36 gr ammo. But doesn’t CCI sponsor him?
And then he just dumps the gun off. Why didn’t he contact Glock and send the gun back?
But as you pointed out, it could have something to do with the shape of the bullets.
I really enjoy shooting my G44 , so has everyone else that has shot it.
But like I’ve said before, Glock Haters are like Democrats and Glocks are like Trump, the Haters are just going to hate.

 

[helitack32f1]

Threads like this just get to me a little bit because the logic goes like this:



Then, nine types of ammo are used, seven of which are 40gr - which are the ones without the reported problems. The other two being Rem Subsonic 38gr and Armscor 36gr. I am glad these were tested. We at least know that there are ammos under 40gr that can cycle a G44.
View attachment 895049 View attachment 895050

However, these aren't the ammos that the youtubers had trouble with. What do you notice about these...... they are incredibly rounded. The Armscor has the bullet shape of CCI SV (or AR tactical), a shape that feeds even the pickiest firearms. The 22 subsonic is a 40gr profile with 2gr difference being the HP.

So, the devil is in the details.
What ammos did the youtubers have trouble with?

22 Plinkster had problems running Federal 745
MAC had problems running Rem GB's, Federal FR2236, and Federal 730

View attachment 895056 View attachment 895057 View attachment 895055 View attachment 895058

These ammos have a different bullet profile.
We know that all rimfire can have good or bad lots.

IMHO, MAC's FTF's with Rem GB's may not affect most G44's. It may be his mags or the box of GB's he has. Especially since others have used them with a consistent amount of failures that are normal for rimfire.

However, has anyone here used Federal 745, 730, or FR2236 since these are the ammos the youtubers are having trouble with in the G44?

It may be that the bullet profile has a bigger impact than simply the bullet weight in grains.

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Ok, just to address the Federal 745 36gr .22LR ammo and 22Plinkster, I found a box of them and compared them to the 36 gr standard velocity CCI as shown in the photo below that I shot 70 flawless rounds of. On the left is the CCI SV 36gr, the other is the Federal. In these pics it seems as though if profile was going to be an issue, the issue would be more prevalent with the CCI due to its larger blunt tip. But, none of this would seem to matter. After watching his video again, he was having issues of light primer strikes and failure to eject, neither of which would seem to have any connection to bullet profile.

I really think he got a bad example of a Glock 44. On top of issues he had with the 36 grain ammo, and ONLY 36 grain ammo, he was also having issues with it shooting 3 inches above point of aim, despite having maxed out the adjustment of the rear sight. He really needs to do another video with a different gun rather than writing off the entire platform though. And on a side note, he appears to be sponsored by both Federal and CCi, at least according to his sweatshirt.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I started this topic so that we could discuss what ammunition members have fired in their G44 and what type of luck they were having.
For a short time it started to go off topic about magazine capacity. But we’re back on track now.
I do agree that 22Plinkster got a bad gun.
I dug up some old 22 ammo last night. I have a 50 cal can that has odds and ends that just didn’t have enough for their own cans. This can has not been opened in years and here’s what I found.


This box of Remington High Velocity was bought at the TG&Y store in Denham Springs, LA. In the early 80’s. I bought a bunch of it when I came home on leave. This box was still unopened.


A box of Federal American Eagle. I bought at Sports & Recreation in 1984.


It didn’t look to pretty and didn’t know how or if it would shoot.


An unopened box of CCI Stingers, probably from the 90’s.


Some Winchester T22 Standard Velocity, no clue when I bought them.


And then I grabbed a box of Aguila standard velocity that I bought last year.

Here’s a list of the ammo with weights.
Federal American Eagle 38gr.
CCI Stinger 32gr.
Aguila Super Extra Standard Velocity 40gr.
Winchester T22 Standard Velocity 40gr.
Remington High Velocity 40gr.



All the ammo functioned 100%.
I think the flyers are my fault, but all shot good with the Winchester doing the best.

I have found that my G44 seems to like Standard Velocity 40gr ammo the best.


I may stop at the store and pick up some different types of 22 ammo to try out.

 

[AK103K]

After watching his video again, he was having issues of light primer strikes and failure to eject, neither of which would seem to have any connection to bullet profile.

I really think he got a bad example of a Glock 44. On top of issues he had with the 36 grain ammo, and ONLY 36 grain ammo, he was also having issues with it shooting 3 inches above point of aim, despite having maxed out the adjustment of the rear sight. He really needs to do another video with a different gun rather than writing off the entire platform though. And on a side note, he appears to be sponsored by both Federal and CCi, at least according to his sweatshirt.

This is something that I find annoying as well. They may well have gotten a bad example, and its not proving anything, if they just do the same thing over and over and keep saying theres a problem.

In a conversation with MAC on another site, he said he keeps the guns that he has problems with, in case he needs proof against the company, should it come up. I asked him a couple of times why he just didnt send it back and let them look at it and if necessary, get it sorted. He said if he sends it back to be looked at and /or fixed, he loses the evidence. OK, whatever. If your going to do that, then you need to get another gun and show us its not a fluke.

And as was mentioned, some of these guys make money off of these videos, and all the drama makes them money, as long as people keep clicking. It is kind of interesting that there seem to be only a couple of videos going around that keep getting posted and pushed, over and over.

Im not saying people arent having trouble here, and Glocks "it'll shoot anything" marketing isnt helping either, but it is a just a gun, and a new release at that, and there are always going to be some guns that have some sort of issues.

And no matter what they are, they all do better with ammo they like. Constantly feeding them something that they dont like, and them bitching about it, doesnt make much sense to me.

What I also find interesting is, if you actually look at the posts of people who actually have them (another issue in the drama here) and are posting their experiences, the majority of the posts seem positive.

When they first came out, there were quite a few people going on about them blowing up and not working, posting up the same couple of videos like they had something in it, and when you asked them how their gun was, they didnt even have one and had yet to have shot one. Yet they acted like they had all the answers.

 

[12Bravo20]

Every manufacturer will turn out a lemon or two. It's part of mass production. Gunny has done some good testing/reviews. I'm glad to see a new gun work well. And we all know how finicky 22lr guns can be about ammo no matter what brand.

I have bought guns and conversion kits that people said were junk and they have worked fine for me after finding what ammo they prefer.

 

[cougar1717]

How do YouTubers make their money? By getting people to watch their videos.

his favorite ammo, which was a Federal 36 gr ammo. But doesn’t CCI sponsor him?

These two thoughts are related. If this were 2015, I would agree that the video gun and ammo reviewer business model is to make revenue by YT clicks and ads. However, YT has generally demonetized the channels that actually test and review firearms and ammo, while typically leaving the talking heads and opinion only guys alone. Most of the youtubers that this has happened to, do what they do best - they make a video about being demonetized. These are out there and searchable.
When this was going on in 2016-2019, there were many "What do I do next?" Q&A videos.


So what happened? Many took on sponsorship, be that via Patreon or commercial sponsorship. I don't blame them at all. Remember that, by and large, these are the "gunwriters" of today and sponsorship is a part of their ability to make high quality video reviews. Anything of reasonable quality and length takes time and effort to write, film, edit, and produce.

That said, everyone must realize that any opinion-editorial (whether gun and ammo related or not) has a bias. 22Plinkster being sponsored by CCI/Federal is obvious. His face is actually on every box of "Stangers." MAC is sponsored by Coppertone - just kidding - I can't remember what it actually is but he does a spot for his sponsor. Others get test and evaluation guns from manufacturers and are bland reviews because they can't say blatant negatives about anything, otherwise manufacturers won't continue to send them T&E guns.

Hickok45 has been sponsored by a ton - Bud's, Federal ammo, SDI, and whatever that gun safe maker and precious metal business is, etc. Everybody who has sponsorship like this has bias and it's funny when it is blatantly obvious. For instance, Hickok45 has to preface his Colt Python video because he has problems with the gun working at the end of the video. His sponsor desires that people buy guns - specifically from Buds, but no viewer wants to buy a problem gun. I feel for him because he is caught in the middle - between posting the truth of actual problems with a firearm vs revealing information that does not make people want to buy the gun at all.



Where am I going with this?

It's time to put on the conspiracy theorist hat.
What if these negative review G44 videos are a product of sponsorship bias?

Why would both 22Plinkster and MAC's videos give a bad review of the G44? It is possible that it's just sensationalism and wanting to be the one reviewing a product launch (or problems therein). You would think that 22P would want to focus on how great the G44 functioned and shot with his Stangers, but the focus was that it doesn't work with Fed 745. MAC makes a deal about that the threaded barrel on the G44 being expensive and extra, but makes sure to showcase that suppressor on the "alternative" TX-22.

Follow me here - we wouldn't know for sure, but IF 22P were sponsored in some way by Taurus (but not Glock), wouldn't he want to focus on the negatives of the G44 to get people to buy the TX-22 instead? He even stated that he turned down a T&E G44, but bought the one he reviewed. That might be due to a conflict of sponsorship interest.

In MAC's case, his first video was not very flattering of the G44. However, I did like MAC's second video for the forum tips and tricks for the G44, because he got his G44 to run better by the end. Even so, he makes sure to showcase the TX-22 with a suppressor in the second video. Maybe he is sponsored by a suppressor manufacturer?

I don't really think these bad G44 reviews are simply co-incidence, especially when both of them make me desire a TX-22 instead. I think that is a key point to evaluating these bad reviews from leading YT personalities. Remember when Glock basically reverse engineered the P320 to whisper negative press about firing when that gun was dropped a certain way. It made people skittish of buying a P320. It makes me wonder if the same thing is going on with the G44 vs the TX-22 now.

 

[Master Blaster]

If a .22lr pistol can shoot several types of inexpensive readily available ammo well, and can shoot accurately with decent ammo, it is good to go in my book.

I own and shoot 3 model 41 target pistols CCI standard velocity is pretty much all I ever shoot out of them. I could care less if they shoot 36 grain crap ammo because I never buy it.

My new G44 shoots CCI sv just fine, plus federal automatch.. So it is good to go.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I decided to see if I could find some different 22 ammo to test in my G44 so, I stopped by Academy Sports today to see what they had. Most of what the had was 40 gr ammo but I did find a few different rounds for my next test.
#1 CCI Stinger Varmint 32 gr. HP 1642 fps.
#2 CCI Quiet Target 40 gr. 710 FPS.
#3 CCI Mini-Mag Varmint 36 gr. HP 1260 FPS.
#4 Winchester bulk pack 36 gr. HP 1280 FPS.
#5 Monarch Brass Case 36 gr. HP 1247 FPS. This is made in the Philippines, by Armscor, for Academy.
May have to wait till Monday to test them out.

 

[.308 Norma]

My new Glock 44 had a couple of hiccups (failures to feed) with CCI 36 gr Mini-Mags this afternoon. It ran great with both Federal 40 gr "High-Shok" and Remington 40 gr (I think) "Golden Bullet" ammo though. FWIW, when we got home, I compared the bullet profiles of the 3 types of ammo, and the CCI Mini-Mag HPs that failed to feed have a rather flat tip compared to the round tips of both the Federal and Remington ammo.
Oh, and my Glock 44's slide failed to lock back after the last round once this afternoon. Unfortunately, my wife was shooting it at the time, and I don't know which of the three ammos she was using then.

 

[Styx]

@GunnyUSMC

Lol you claim to like the M&P better than Glocks, but most of the threads you start are about Glocks, you almost have 400 post in general about Glocks and only 54 post about M&P's (most of which are are in Glock related threads). You only meantion M&P's is while you're viciously defending Glocks and
your being accused of being bias while and not really any other time....

Just come out the closet already and you've become a part of the perfection cult. Nothing wrong with that... Just busting your chops lol and Congrates new plinker! If or when I'm in the market for a new 22, I'm going to have to put one of these at the top of my list.

 

[Jeff22]

Back about 1982 or so I started accumulating .22 conversion units or .22 cal equivalents of my various guns to allow me to practice for cheap. My normal practice has been to shoot about 1000 rounds a month of .22 indoors in the winter.

In January I bought the first Glock 44 I ever saw. I already have a Ciener conversion unit on a G19 frame and an Advantage Arms conversion on a G22 frame.

I've been REALLY impressed with the Glock 44 so far. I have tested it with the following ammunition types:

200 rnds CCI Mini Mags. (40 grn at 1235 fps)

300 rnds CCI AR Tactical. (40 grn at 1200 fps)

200 rnds Winchester M-22 (40 grn at 1255 fps)

200 rnds Winchester Super Speed (40 grn @ 1300 fps)

200 rnds Federal Black (38 grn at 1260 fps)

200 rnds Browning Performance Rimfire (BPR) (40 grn at 1435 fps)

200 rns Armscore High Velocity (36 grn at 1260 fps)

200 rns Augila Super Extra High Velocity ((40 grn at 1255 fps)

That's 1,700 rounds in five weeks.

I cleaned and lubed the gun after each trip to the range.

I had NO (0) malfunctions.

Most of the shooting I did was accuracy drills on NRA B-24 or B-34 or B-29 or TQ-20 targets at 30 and 50 feet. I also shot on some Warren Tactical WTS-8 targets at different distances.

Both of my other Glock conversions and the SIG factory .22 conversions require hot ammo with plated bullets to run reliably. I've usually used CCI Mini-Mags for that application, and still experienced occasional malfunctions caused by the slide not going fully into battery.

So far I've been really impressed with the G44. The trigger feels like a stock Glock trigger.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

@GunnyUSMC

Lol you claim to like the M&P better than Glocks, but most of the threads you start are about Glocks, you almost have 400 post in general about Glocks and only 54 post about M&P's (most of which are are in Glock related threads). You only meantion M&P's is while you're viciously defending Glocks and
your being accused of being bias while and not really any other time....

Just come out the closet already and you've become a part of the perfection cult. Nothing wrong with that... Just busting your chops lol and Congrates new plinker! If or when I'm in the market for a new 22, I'm going to have to put one of these at the top of my list.

You seem to follow my posting pretty close. You must like what I post.
Yes, I do post a good bit about Glocks, but that’s because that’s what I’ve bought lately and I do like them very much. Now if I were to go out and buy the M&P 22, I would post about it, but it only comes with a manual safety, which I don’t care for. I even looked at the new Taurus 22 and have given some thought to buying one, but then there’s that manual safety again.
The next gun on my to buy list is a S&W M&P M2.0 in FDE, without the manual safety. I’m just waiting on The S&W Spring sale.
You also have to take into account that there are more topics on Glocks then M&Ps. So if I posted in all of them, I would still be posting more about Glocks.
But this topic is about what ammo functions in the G44. After seeing the negative videos on the G44, which were mainly due to ammo related problems, and I was not having the same issues. I was curious if other people were having the same problems.
One thing about the G44 that I really like is that it will function with Standard Velocity ammo, when most 22 semi-auto won’t.
I would like to see this thread stay on topic so that I can see what ammo other members are using.

 

[helitack32f1]

Well today I fired more ammo in one afternoon than I probably ever have in a single year. I brought out 12 different types of ammo, a Ruger MK III, and the Glock 44. I shot equal amounts of each of the 12 types of ammo out of each gun, back to back to compare. After that I fired another 115 rounds through the Glock just because I could! So, here is the list of what went through the Glock and how well they did as far as function goes.

The biggest issue was with the Winchester White Box 36 gr Plated Hollow Point ammo. The tips of those bullets are by far the fattest flat spot of any ammo. If the mag is not loaded properly, the first round hits the little guide at the front of the magazine and stops. If the mags are loaded properly and the top round is aimed up as much as possible in the mag, they will work and continue to feed the next rounds flawlessly.

The next biggest issue was with the Remington Viper ammo. This may have been self induced because it was only with those that I was dropping the mags and doing a fast reload so that may have caused errors, not sure how though.They have a unique stepped bullet profile and it is possible that the step on the bullet hits the feed guide on the front of the mag and launches it up too fast for the round to make it into the chamber.

Anyway, this brings my round count in the G44 to 735, using 16 different types of ammo. It is far more reliable than it really has a right to be. I am very happy with the gun. Just some random info about this trip shooting. I cleaned the gun thoroughly before this trip but did not clean in any way during shooting. Often I would run 3 mags back to back as fast as I could and this heated the gun enough to have copper Glock grease oozing out of some places. Each fresh mag was begun by slingshot of the slide, not using the slide stop. And..., last but not least, I decided last night to switch to using Super-tech 5W30 full synthetic oil as my lube of choice. I got tired of gun oils disappearing soon after application. This seemed to work very well and some remnants of it was still there even after 515 rounds.

For the record, the Ruger Mark III I brought along had 9 failures to fire, 2 failures to eject and 2 failures to load the next round with the Winchester Wildcat. With Winchester White Box the Ruger had 2 failures to eject and 2 failures to fire. Wolf was by far the most accurate and also the most high quality looking ammo, which it should be considering how much it cost.

20 rounds CCI Pistol Match - 40gr Lead Round nose 1070 fps
50 rounds CCI Blaser - 40gr Lead Round Nose
10 rounds CCI Copper-22 - 21gr copper weird nose 1820 fps
30 rounds Federal 510 - 40gr Lead Round Nose 1240 fps
50 rounds Federal Auto Match - 40gr Lead Round Nose 1200 fps
50 rounds Federal 745 - 36gr Copper Plated HP 1260 fps
50 rounds Remington Viper - 36gr Truncated Cone 1410 fps --- 2 High Dive Failure to feed in magazine
20 Rounds Wolf Match Target - 40gr Lead Round Nose --- 2 Slide didn't lock back
20 Rounds Fiocchi SM320 Super Match -
50 rounds Winchester Wildcat - 40gr Lead Round Nose 1255 fps --- 1 Nose dive Failure to feed in magazine, 1 FTE
50 rounds Winchester White Box - 36gr Plated HP 1280 fps --- 4 Nosed dive failure to feed in magazine, 1 fail to fire (ammo problem)
30 rounds PMC Scoremaster -40gr Lead Round Nose
30 more of Winchester Wildcat
30 more WWB
30 more CCI Blaser