What will the new Glock 44 eat?

[Styx]

You seem to follow my posting pretty close. You must like what I post.
Yes, I do post a good bit about Glocks, but that’s because that’s what I’ve bought lately and I do like them very much. Now if I were to go out and buy the M&P 22, I would post about it, but it only comes with a manual safety, which I don’t care for. I even looked at the new Taurus 22 and have given some thought to buying one, but then there’s that manual safety again.
The next gun on my to buy list is a S&W M&P M2.0 in FDE, without the manual safety. I’m just waiting on The S&W Spring sale.
You also have to take into account that there are more topics on Glocks then M&Ps. So if I posted in all of them, I would still be posting more about Glocks.
But this topic is about what ammo functions in the G44. After seeing the negative videos on the G44, which were mainly due to ammo related problems, and I was not having the same issues. I was curious if other people were having the same problems.
One thing about the G44 that I really like is that it will function with Standard Velocity ammo, when most 22 semi-auto won’t.
I would like to see this thread stay on topic so that I can see what ammo other members are using.

Just giving you be hard time

You seem to follow my posting pretty close. You must like what I post.
Yes, I do post a good bit about Glocks, but that’s because that’s what I’ve bought lately and I do like them very much. Now if I were to go out and buy the M&P 22, I would post about it, but it only comes with a manual safety, which I don’t care for. I even looked at the new Taurus 22 and have given some thought to buying one, but then there’s that manual safety again.
The next gun on my to buy list is a S&W M&P M2.0 in FDE, without the manual safety. I’m just waiting on The S&W Spring sale.
You also have to take into account that there are more topics on Glocks then M&Ps. So if I posted in all of them, I would still be posting more about Glocks.
But this topic is about what ammo functions in the G44. After seeing the negative videos on the G44, which were mainly due to ammo related problems, and I was not having the same issues. I was curious if other people were having the same problems.
One thing about the G44 that I really like is that it will function with Standard Velocity ammo, when most 22 semi-auto won’t.
I would like to see this thread stay on topic so that I can see what ammo other members are using.

Was a joke my friend based on some of our past convos and wasn't really meant to be taken that seriously. I never heard of the G44 having any issues until this thread to be honest. Even if some do, I'm sure Glock will fix any issues. Like I mentioned, if I didn't already have an M&P22, the G44 would be at the top of my list, and this thread will be a valuable resource.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Just giving you be hard time

Was a joke my friend based on some of our past convos and wasn't really meant to be taken that seriously. I never heard of the G44 having any issues until this thread to be honest. Even if some do, I'm sure Glock will fix any issues. Like I mentioned, if I didn't already have an M&P22, the G44 would be at the top of my list, and this thread will be a valuable resource.

I knew you were poking fun. Sorry if my reply seemed a little rough. I should have used a few smiley faces.
I will most likely add a Taurus 22 to my collection of guns and maybe a M&P also. I do like guns.

 

[Styx]

I knew you were poking fun. Sorry if my reply seemed a little rough. I should have used a few smiley faces.
I will most likely add a Taurus 22 to my collection of guns and maybe a M&P also. I do like guns.

Yea, I heard bad things about the Taurus tx22 barrels. Not sure if they fixed it yet, so you might want to look into that before buying one. Come to think of it, you actually have me interested in grabbing a G44 for when I start taking my son and daughter to the range. That way they can each have their own gun instead of sharing the M&P22...

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Here we go with the next round of testing.
Here’s the lineup in the order they were shot.
I put the CCI Quiet last because, I figured it would be the one that would give me problems, I was right.


I have forgotten to mention how I have been loading the mags and chambering the first rounds.
I do nothing special when loading the magazines. I hold them in my left hand and just pulling the losing tabs down just enough the put the next round in.
When loading the gun, I start with the slide locked the the rear and use the slide release to load the first round.
Today was the first time I had a round fail to feed when loading the first round.
Here’s the target.
As I have done with all the others, I shot five of each round.
I’m a little impressed with the Monarch, which is just Armscor in a store brand package, it really shoots well and can be bought for .04 cents a round.


On this second pic you will notice someone holes along the bottom. That’s because I brought my Kimber 22 conversion tha sits on a Rock Island frame I built for it. It’s a good shooter.


Now for the issues I had. When loaded the first round with the Winchester bulk pack 36 gr. the first round failed to feed.
Here’s what it looked like when I cleared it from the gun.
Nothing special had to be done to clean the jam, just drop the mag and pull the slide to the rear.
I then put another round in the mag and loaded the same with no problems.


I did have trouble with the CCI Quiet, as I thought I would. Of the five rounds one did not extract and the other four stoved piped. But that’s what I expected with it only having 710 FPS.
It also failed to extract in the Kimber. It was almost like the slide didn’t even move. This round should shoot great in a bolt gun.

I have come to believe that the shape of the bullet is the biggest factor in feeding problems. It may also be that some guns may be a little more finicky about what they like to eat.

 

[BSA1]

@GunnyUSMC thank you for this topic. My most neglected cartridge is the .22. I am not sure why. I just never have paid attention to it over the years. Last year The Lady brought a Ruger SR22 last year and that thing is a hoot to shoot.

Then a couple of weeks ago I decide to take a break from buying parts for my AR builds and brought a Ruger Wrangler. Our crappy winter weather so far has prevented a range trip.

I have started thinking about getting a larger, high capacity 22 pistol so I plan on including the Glock in my decision making. There is a Gun Show coming up in a couple of weeks and I will be taking my lucky charm with me (my wife). She has a good eye for gun deals. I am not a Glock fan but I am open to buying one if both of us like it.

 

[cougar1717]

I have come to believe that the shape of the bullet is the biggest factor in feeding problems.

I think that may be why some people are having trouble with Rem GB's, while others have no more failures than are typical for rimfire. This weekend, I was taking a bulk pack of GB's and placing them in empty CCI 50/100 boxes for ease of use at the range. After filling a tray, I flipped it over on my palm to look at the uniformity of the bullets (or in this case, the lack therof). When they are lined up, it is easier to see the differences than looking down into a bulk box or bucket. In my bulk box, somewhere around 1:50 had a somewhat deformed bullet, resulting in a larger than normal meplat. I'm sure this varies from box to box, lot to lot, etc. It may be that the G44 experiences more nosedives with 22LR that has a larger meplat diameter.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Bulk pack 22 ammo in all brands have been known to have issues over the years. Some of those issues run from lot to lot.
But when I can buy boxed ammo for the same price or just .01 or .02 cents more, I’ll go with the boxed ammo and skip the uncertainty of bulk ammunition.
Right now I can get Armscor 36 gr boxed from Target Sport for $15.63 for 500 or $93.78 for 3000. My G44 seems to like this ammo.
So if you have a G44 or any other 22 pistol, it is best to try a few different types of ammo to see what it likes.
I do like the fact that my G44 functions and shoots very well with CCI Standard Velocity.
My Kimber doesn’t function well with Any standard velocity ammo.

 

[12Bravo20]

Dang it y'all corrupted me. I went back to my local shop and checked out the Glock 44 again and it went home with me. If I could get use to the funky grip of the Kel-Tec PMR 30, I'll get use to the Glock grip. I will try what ammo I have on hand once the range dries out enough to go.

I have the following ammo that I will try:
Armscor 36Gr HP high velocity
Federal Champion 510 40Gr
CCI 40Gr standard velocity
CCI Mini Mag 40Gr
CCI Tactical 40Gr

 

[12Bravo20]

Dang it y'all corrupted me. I went back to my local shop and checked out the Glock 44 again and it went home with me. If I could get use to the funky grip of the Kel-Tec PMR 30, I'll get use to the Glock grip. I will try what ammo I have on hand once the range dries out enough to go.

I have the following ammo that I will try:
Armscor 36Gr HP high velocity
Federal Champion 510 40Gr
CCI 40Gr standard velocity
CCI Mini Mag 40Gr
CCI Tactical 40Gr

I went to the range today with the Glock 44. I had zero malfunctions, no failure to feed, no failure to fire, and no failure to eject. I'm very happy to say the least. The one thing I don't care for is the sights on the pistol. I need to practice more or look at different sights. I shot the following ammo:

Armscor 36Gr HP high velocity
Federal Champion 510 40Gr
CCI 40Gr standard velocity
CCI Mini Mag 40Gr
PMC Sidewinder 40Gr high velocity
CI Superrapido 40Gr

I forgot to grab the CCI Tactical and th Federal Bilk to test. Every ammo I did shoot functioned fine. The CCI Standard and Federal Champion 510 were the best as far as accuracy.



That target was 20 shot fairly rapid at 10 yards. The few flyers were me plus it was windy today. I shot my Ruger MkII at the same distance and it 's groups were 1/3 the size. I'm not expecting the Glock to be any where as accurate as the Ruger. Over all I'm very pleased with the Glock 44. I shot around 300 rounds today.

 

[Mars5l]

I bought a pack of it from BPS to try in my S&W when I finally goto the range, but has anyone tried the CCI Copper 22s. 21 grn 1800 fps?

 

[helitack32f1]

I bought a pack of it from BPS to try in my S&W when I finally goto the range, but has anyone tried the CCI Copper 22s. 21 grn 1800 fps?

I tried them but only 10 rounds of it because I had a limited amount of it. Fired fine in the G44 and the MK III. But accuracy was awful compared to pretty much anything else I shot.

 

[Jeff22]

We are assembling a good body of data here.

30+ years ago I shot thousands of rounds of Remington Golden Bullets. I remember them being of higher quality than they are today. That makes me sad . . .

 

[.308 Norma]

Yesterday afternoon, my 2-week old Glock 44 "ate" 100 rounds of Winchester Super X, 40 grain, (1,300fps) copper plated RNs, and never hiccupped - not even once. There wasn't much left of the plastic water bottle we bounced all over the gravel pit.

 

[12Bravo20]

Well I took mine to an indoor range this morning. I shot CCI standard 40Gr and some bulk Federal Champion 36Gr HV (in round can). I had exactly two FTE issues. one was with the CCI and the other was with the Federal ammo, both times you could tell that they were a little weak. I definitely couldn't blame the gun. I took the time today to dial in the sights and am getting use to the trigger so groups were better today. The surprise was that the bulk Federal Champion shot quite a bit better than the CCI.

I also took my Rock Island 191 with conversion slide too. There is no comparison in the triggers between the two. The Glock trigger makes the stock RIA 1911 trigger feel like a super light hair trigger. I know apples to oranges here. I had a good time shooting both pistols at 7 yards and 20 yards.

 

[DustyGmt]

Hey @GunnyUSMC , have you run any more wolf 40gr Match Target (standard Velocity) through your G44? My 44 does fantastic with just about everything but that is one I havent tried, thinking about buying a few thousand rounds of the match target stuff.....

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Hey @GunnyUSMC , have you run any more wolf 40gr Match Target (standard Velocity) through your G44? My 44 does fantastic with just about everything but that is one I havent tried, thinking about buying a few thousand rounds of the match target stuff.....

I haven’t shot any Wolf Match Ammo in it yet, but that’s only because I don’t have any. Once all the crazy buying settles down, I’ll see if I can find some ammo that I haven’t tried yet.
I have two of the ProMag 18 round magazines coming from CDNN Sports. They should be here in a couple of days. The plan is to go to the range Monday and see how they function in the gun.

 

[12Bravo20]

One thing I have noticed about the ProMag magazines is that some people have had feeding issues with 36 grain ammo while others have not. Between all of the different forums that I belong to, the majority of people have no issues with 40 grain ammo at all. All I can say is to try some 36 grain to see, you may or may not have issues with it. 40 grain round nose seems to feed the best.

 

[DustyGmt]

I swore to myself that I'd never buy another pro mag brand product ever again but I might have to break that promise to check them out....

 

[12Bravo20]

I swore to myself that I'd never buy another pro mag brand product ever again but I might have to break that promise to check them out....

I felt the same way until I read a lot of positive reviews on the ProMag G44 magazine and then tried them for myself. They actually do work. The only other ProMag magazine that I have bought in the past that worked fine is the 25 round magazine for the Marlin Model 70/795.

 

[FlSwampRat]

I haven’t shot any Wolf Match Ammo in it yet, but that’s only because I don’t have any. Once all the crazy buying settles down, I’ll see if I can find some ammo that I haven’t tried yet.

All I seem to be shooting lately is ammo I haven't tried yet. Leaving my stockpile alone, only go shooting if the range has ammo for sale and that's led me to some brands I'd never even heard tell of, never mind seen.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

All I seem to be shooting lately is ammo I haven't tried yet. Leaving my stockpile alone, only go shooting if the range has ammo for sale and that's led me to some brands I'd never even heard tell of, never mind seen.

Your right about finding odd brands of ammo when ammo is hard to find, but I refuse to pay inflated prices when I have ammo at home. I’ve got 22 ammo that I only paid three cents a round for. And let me tell you, I bought a lot at that price.

 

[bannockburn]

Gunny

I stocked up on Wolf Match Target ammo some years ago when I found it at a great price at a gun show. Couldn't get my credit card out fast enough and I bought up all 11 bricks that he had.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Gunny

I stocked up on Wolf Match Target ammo some years ago when I found it at a great price at a gun show. Couldn't get my credit card out fast enough and I bought up all 11 bricks that he had.

I’m going to look around this weekend to see if I can find some 22 ammo I don’t already have, to try I’m my G44.
I just got in some 18 round ProMag magazines for the G44 today. I’ll most likely try them out Monday.

 

[bannockburn]

Gunny

Please let us know how the .22 ammo buying goes and how well the 18 round ProMag magazines fare.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Gunny

Please let us know how the .22 ammo buying goes and how well the 18 round ProMag magazines fare.

Here’s the post I started on the magazines.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/18-round-magazine-for-glock-44.876062/