What's happening with Glock??

[rearview]

I was clear about your intent when I saw the smile face going "nah, nah, nah". Very appropriate and quite correct.

The brow raising thing? Care to elaborate? If not, A-OK.

 

[Michigun]

I'm a GLOCK guy, & you are obviously not... that's really all it takes to get my attention!

 

[Stephen Ewing]

Rearview, not actually knocking any of those guns, just running down the internet legends/blown out of proportion/whatever. My point is that you can't be paralyzed by either the idiots knocking good guns, or the unlucky few good people stiffed by an otherwise excellent manufacturer. While my degree of affection varies considerably, I implicitly trust any of the guns I mentioned with my life.

Well, maybe the Colt needs a trip to the gunsmith first..

Steve

 

[jimmy]

I have four Glocks in the general serial number range of the frame rail breakage recall--oops, I mean advisory. I called Glock and found out that only one is affected. I boxed it up and shipped it to Smyrna for a replacement frame.

That, to me, will take care of the matter. AFAIK the rest of my Glocks are fine. In fact, the Glock I returned would probably have been fine, too, but I bought it as a carry gun and didn't want to run the risk of an untimely problem.

In sum, I haven't lost confidence in the concept or overall quality of Glock pistols.

My $0.02.

 

[txgolfer45]

Buy one! You will like it!

 

[cheygriz]

I have four Glocks. I love them.

During my 15 years as a police firearms instructor, I never saw any other officer have a problem with them.

 

[tomkatz]

I've owned a 17 since 1990, bought a new 19 in 96, and a 26 a year ago and they all work the same, perfect....tom

 

[Nero Steptoe]

"Both my dealer and a LEO tell me that the LE price for Glocks are $434..."


Chief of our local p.d. told me no later than yesterday afternoon that their price for a new G22 is $348.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Chief of our local p.d. told me no later than yesterday afternoon that their price for a new G22 is $348.

As I indicated in my post, the price was for an individual purchase by a sworn LEO. I acknowledged that direct purchase by the dept. results in a very steep discount (I'll bet that the discount depends on the size of the dept.).

 

[six 4 sure]

FWIW one of my best friends is a State Trooper in Illinois. His duty pistol is a Glock. He is also the rangemaster in his district so he sees and deal with Glock's on a regular basis. He was actually involved in the testing when ISP swithched from the S&W 9mm (39?) to Glock .40S&W. He has nothing but good things to say about Glock. You should hear his stories about shooting against FBI HRT and their "$1500 1911's".

When I asked him what to use for CCW, he said "buy a Glock, no you really should buy two". I mentioned my Sig 225 and my P7M8. His reply was "those are nice, but I'd still get a Glock". I was pretty surprised to hear this from a revolver guy that used to hate semi-auto's.

Six

 

[Poohgyrr]

I've had my G23 since '91. The black parkerizing on top of the tenifer is wearing thin and could be redone. This pistol is comforting, and just keeps shooting without problem. I've since picked up a 24 & 27. These pistols are so practical, easy to maintain, easy to clean & inspect, and reliable that I can't argue against them. I even forget how ugly they are. I don't know why, but they just flat out work.

The only changes to any of these are Trijicon night sights and the 8 lb trigger spring.

 

[Gary G23]

I used to be a Glock fanatic (I currently own ten of them), but I WON'T be buying any more. It's not because they had a problem, it's how they handled the situation.

 

[Nero Steptoe]

"(I'll bet that the discount depends on the size of the dept.)."

I'm sure that's right. Ours is a very small dept., so better prices are probably had by large agencies.

 

[Michigun]

“It's not because they had a problem, it's how they handled the situation.â€

At least GLOCK has/is doing something about it… most manufactures wouldn’t have… I’d be willing to bet that most, if not all gun manufactures, would LOVE to have GLOCK’s “failure rate %â€! I’m betting it’s a lot better then what they consider an “acceptable figureâ€â€¦

I think GLOCK holds them selves to a higher standard then most if not all.

 

[Schuey2002]

I own both HK and Glock handguns..

Whenever there is a "bump in the night", I always reach for one of my Glock 19's.. I've never had a problem with any of my Glocks and don't forsee having any in the future.

This coming from an absolutely "All things H&K" fanatic..

 

[Wildalaska]

Got a letter yesterday from Glock indicating that the frames were to be replaced on 6 357 SIG hanguns shipped to us (out of 20 I beleieve). 4 of them were still in stock, one had been sold at retail to a customer, one to anotther dealer (we are distibutors)..

I told the other delaer and he contacted my his customer. My customer said "ill worry about it when in breaks" and on the other ones, Glock gave me a ship # and promised to have them back in three days..

I have no quarrel with the way Glock has handled this...

I also note to you that so far in the past year I have had a Blaser recall, and a Winchester 70 recall. Never saw much internet hub bub about those..

You can love Glocks or not..they are just a tool like any other gun..there are some better...but there are lots worse...

WildglockhasgoodcustomerserviceAlaska

 

[jc2]

Six out of twenty--40%? That's a lot higher rate than Glock been publishing.

 

[JohnKSa]

Six out of twenty--40%? That's a lot higher rate than Glock been publishing.

Read the post again.

Glock contacted one of their dealers and notified them that they needed to send back some of the new guns that Glock had shipped them for frame replacement.

It happened that 6 out of the 20 guns stocked by the dealer needed replacement frames per Glocks affected serial number list.

Actually, this is exactly what you've been saying the Glock WASN'T doing. Now you have proof that they are actually contacting dealers about the issue--just as you wished them to do.

 

[jc2]

It is something Glock is FINALLY doing--probably in response to all the negative publicity.

Glock has been aware of the defective frames for over a half a year.

Glock did not bother to contact the LE agencies to which they had sold weapons which Glock knew had defective frames. The agencies had to find out about the defective frames the hard way (when they started to break). It took legal involvement (County Attorney) before Glock was willing to replace the defective frames they had sold.

So, close to a year later (and how many Glocks with defective frames sold to unsuspecting conscumers), Glock finally decides to contact its stocking dealers.

My guess is too many people became aware of the problems with E-prefix frames for Glock to continue to "slow leak" the problem, and the dealers started raising cane with Glock and their distributers.

Regardless of what you think of Glock handguns, Glock Inc.'s handling of the frame issue has left a lot to be desired.

 

[JohnKSa]

So, now they're doing exactly what you said they should and they're still dogs according to you.

One might begin to get the impression that you won't be happy with Glock no matter what they do.

But we all know that couldn't be the case, right?

 

[jc2]

You're right. I am not happy with the way Glock, Inc. chose to handle the slide problem. I'm glad to see it finally looks like they're going to do something proactive instead of defensive, but they are about six months too late in doing it.

I am also considerably less than happy that Glock, Inc. has apparently decided to cease production of the 9mm3 follower--adecision that has the potential to eventually render obsolete all pre-ban hi-cap magazines.

I like Glock handguns (at least their 9x19 offerings), but I am not real happy with the company (Glock, Inc.). I can and do distinguish between the product and the management. I think they are making the mistake of taking their customer base for granted (a mistake that has been made by other firearms manufacturers in the past).

 

[JohnKSa]

Posted by jc2
I am also considerably less than happy that Glock, Inc. has apparently decided to cease production of the 9mm3 follower--adecision that has the potential to eventually render obsolete all pre-ban hi-cap magazines.

Posted by jc2
"If it not written down on a piece paper with four corners--it didn't happen.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=30837&highlight=written+happen+didnt#post30837
So, you were just about to tell us what official Glock publication you read this information in, right?

Any other things about Glock that make you unhappy? Perhaps the search function will help us out...

Sure enough, here are several choice jc2 quotes about Glocks.

Glock, of all the weapons available, is probably one of the most prone to operator error.

The .40 S&W (and 357 Sig) have more kabooms with factory ammunition proportionally than the 9x19 and and .45 ACP, ...They major culprits seem to be Glocks...

Glock has large share of the LE market ...because ... it is cheap...

The Marlin (camp carbine) will outshine the Glock in all areas except portability/carry.

Hmmm,

It would seem that a great deal of things about Glocks make you unhappy. And yet we read...

I like Glock handguns...

Very odd. Why would you like a gun that is "the most prone of all weapons available to operator error", "outshone by a Marlin Camp Carbine in every all areas except portability", "cheap", and "the major culprits" for kabooms.

Is there something you aren't telling us?

 

[jc2]

What can I say? There's a big difference between "like" and "blind endorsement."

I don't particularly understand why you want to try to make something personal out of this. You want to quote out of context and ignore differening subjects of the posts.

Yes, "Glock, Inc. has apparently decided to cease production of the 9mm3 follower." So what?

Yes, Glocks tend to be more prone to operator error than other designs. It underlines the need for good training and good gun handling.

Yes, Glock has large share of the LE market because it is cheap. Oh, and by the way, you left out the rest of the quote "it works"--so much for your "truth in advertising." So what? It is inexpensive, and it works.

In the context of the thread and in context the Marlin will outshine the Glock (or any other handgun) in all areas except portability/carry. So what? We were comparing a carbine and handgun.

So, yes, I do like Glocks--"warts and all." I would refer you to "House Rule 4" in that your agenda seems to be to make things personal. :banghead:

 

[JohnKSa]

What can I say?

Apparently lots.

I give you high marks for persistence--and consistency. As usual when you begin to get tripped up by your own statements you begin the accusations about being personally attacked.

Good luck with your Glock.

What kind of Glock was that again?

John

 

[Freightman]

Man I love Glocks! if it weren't for them there wouldn't be any spice on the gunboards!!
I am going to buy one one of these days when I get enough money as I believe them to be good pistols!