What's your "never buy" gun?

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Hi-Point Carbine (don't like the looks, call me superficial)
Any revolver in chambers above 44 Mag\45 LC
 
I don't know why on earth Hi-Point made their carbine so insanely ugly. It's not even like ugly out of pure functionality or crudeness, the way a Sten gun or something is - the weird, humped and curved shape of it, which is totally unnecessary to the gun's function, means that they actually went out of their way to make it look like that. Which baffles me to no end. Would it have killed them to just stick to a basic, straight-line design? Like the Sub-2000?
 
I keep hearing this about Taurus - are they really that bad? Some people seem to think they're really excellent. But I also hear about poor quality-control. What is the story?
 
I don't know why on earth Hi-Point made their carbine so insanely ugly. It's not even like ugly out of pure functionality or crudeness, the way a Sten gun or something is - the weird, humped and curved shape of it, which is totally unnecessary to the gun's function, means that they actually went out of their way to make it look like that. Which baffles me to no end. Would it have killed them to just stick to a basic, straight-line design? Like the Sub-2000?
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funny, real funny
 
I keep hearing this about Taurus - are they really that bad? Some people seem to think they're really excellent. But I also hear about poor quality-control. What is the story?
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They just had an awful reputation at one point, and there are still enough (IMHO) random reports of things going awry that I'm going to steer clear of them for awhile at least.
 
I keep hearing this about Taurus - are they really that bad? Some people seem to think they're really excellent. But I also hear about poor quality-control. What is the story?
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They just had an awful reputation at one point, and there are still enough (IMHO) random reports of things going awry that I'm going to steer clear of them for awhile at least.
 
Any gun used against an American in war.
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Doesn't this mentality kind of reinforce the idea that something can be "the gun's fault" and not the fault of whoever is using it? I mean, I don't think that any gun just takes on evil qualities because of its operators. I'm willing to bet that captured M16s and M14s were used against American troops by the Viet Cong - surely you wouldn't disqualify them just for that?
 
Any gun used against an American in war.
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So you're saying you cannot learn from and respect your enemies? While there is no respecting terrorists, there is no point in disrespecting common soldiers even if they serve a nation that is opposed to your own. They're all fighting for the same things you are.

What did I learn from my early-production Arisaka 99 (recovered on Okinawa in 1945 by my grandfather)? I learned the Japanese built a fine rifle with many innovative features. As a bolt action, there is nothing wrong with it, and I would certainly trust my life to it. It was simply outclassed by the M1 Garand, however.

What did I learn from my 1943 Mosin Nagant M91/30? I learned the Russians could also make a fine gun, and that Russian guns are freaking brutal. Given that the average size of a Russian soldier was a bit smaller than an American at the time, the thought of them carrying and repeatedly firing this massive rifle that kicks hard is worthy of my respect. I wouldn't want to use it as-built, and put a recoil pad on it.

What wouldn't I own?

AR-15, unless it's one with a piston upper. Its only feature you cannot replicate on a more reliable, less expensive semi-automatic firearm is its extreme accuracy. Then again, this also varies depending on the quality of the individual upper, anywhere from dime-sized to 2 MOA, and 2 MOA is where Saigas sit. It's just too much money for a problematic platform, particularly when other cheaper, more reliable semi's are good enough to fill its role. They're accurate enough out to the effective range of the round.

Glocks. I'm just not a fan.

Any gun in 9mm. I don't believe in 9mm. It just doesn't have the stopping power of .45 and .40.
 
I don't think of the Mosin Nagant as an "anti-American" gun in any case. Just because it was invented by the Russians doesn't mean it was used against us. On the contrary, it was used to HELP us beat the Germans in World War II.
 
Never Buy Gun? An AR/M4/M16. There are much better guns for the money, IMO. Plus, using a varmint round for combat is just a joke

Also, these gold-plated Desert Eagles (or any Desert Eagle) & these too-pretty-to-shoot vault queens. If I'm going to invest, I'll just by gold or silver, why buy a gold-plated gun I'll never shoot??? I just can't justify these kinds of purchases. I guess I'm too function and not enough fashion.

And I'll never buy any of these James Purdey & Sons sXs shotguns. 100k is too much for a friggin' antique-style gun.

I don't get the "Taurus" comments that are based on "I've heard this & that about them". My 605 in .357 had some problems initially, something with the ejector rod jamming open when depressed & the cylinder wouldn't turn, thus I will agree with the "fit & finish" comments. However, we sent it back to Taurus and I had it back in a couple weeks, running right and I've put over 1K rounds through it w/o problem, .38+P and .357. For Taurus, if you get it checked out by a good gunsmith, you'll probably find that once you work out the kinks (if there are any), you'll get a great gun for the money. Still cheaper than a S&W. Taurus guns aren't at the top of my list, but when I wanted a little snub, and the 605 popped up, I bought it, worked out the kinks, & now I really enjoy it.


Oh, & I'll never buy a Ruger SP101....




in .327 Fed! HA! Fooled You...
 
Ha, honestly, it would be a 1911. I don't have any use for one but they seem popular. I'd buy it if I found a killer deal and resell quick.
 
Mike the Wolf said:
Given that the average size of a Russian soldier was a bit smaller than an American at the time, the thought of them carrying and repeatedly firing this massive rifle that kicks hard is worthy of my respect. I wouldn't want to use it as-built, and put a recoil pad on it.
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Remember, the Russians are a cold-weather people, and those soldiers, who did most of their fighting during the winter in frigid areas, would have been wearing extremely thick woolen overcoats, in addition to several other layers of clothing and long underwear underneath it. That would have absorbed a great deal of the recoil.
 
And gun that doesnt fit me.
All mfgrs can make a turd, I prefer to judge most guns on a case by case basis.
That being said, I refuse to buy any of the throwaway guns... bryco, raven, jennings, rg, etc.


Jim
 
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