Which scope for the new rifle?
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Some of my shots will be inside of 25yds, tho for the most part I dont hunt areas where muzzle burn range is really something I have to consider. Even at those shorter ranges tho I'm comfortable with a 6x scope. My airgun scope stays set at 12x for the most part, and its used inside of 25yds almost exclusively, so I get quite a bit of practice potting stuff at shorter range.
The Meopta dosent carry an illuminated reticle, and while they are a relatively new feature for me, ive become quite attached to them.
I think youll be quite happy with that Agos HMR, Ive had 3 of them so far and all have been excellent. I currently have a 4-20x50 on my muzzleloader, and it's pretty close to the Midas IMO.
Ive never seen a Falcon in person before, tho ive heard the name at least a few times. Im pretty sure they were/are fairly popular with the airgun F/T guys. Id actually forgotten they exist, those are now back on my list of things to try lol.
The Arken I actually own one of, and that little caption with the photo is EXACTLY how id describe the scope. Id go as far as saying the glass is very good when compared to other 400-500 dollar optics, and simply good when compared to everything I've got.
The one I have rides around on my 6.5 Target gun, been running it in and out from 50yds +/- to almost 1k on a couple outings now and im stoked on it.
I forgot to mention that if you find a scope you really like but The range that it is adjusted for is incorrect for your application, You can usually adjust them yourself.
Until recently most scopes I messed with, all you had to do was loosen the lock ring on the front of the objective bell, and then the objective lens assembly would screw in and out with little effort.
MOST scopes, Even ones with side focus and AO, Don't adjust quite right for my eyes and outside of 5-600 yards I often have issue resolving. I've adjusted many of my scopes as such, and only the newest Chinese ones I've seen are using a hardening locking compound that needs heat to release.
Even those will soften and you can adjust them, and when they cool down again the compound hardens back up and locks your adjustments in place.
So far no failures, but you never know when you're tinkering with stuff with like this.
If you have a scope from a decent company, they will adjust it for you. When I inquired about the distance Leupold sets their centerfire rifle scopes, they told me (150 yards) and offered to adjust my scope to another distance if I preferred something else.
They used to offer that option via the custom shop, if they are still doing it thats pretty cool, and it makes me wonder if they will do anything else......
Oh! S20 with the Midas aboard. I figured id try this one first and see how it does. The weights a little on the heavy side, and the objective bells a little closer to the barrel than I like, but otherwise its a good fit......I also never ordered the 1" rings to use the Meopta, and only realized that when I was poking thru my parts. Gonna have to go do that.......
You measure that bell clearance in nanometers?? Good looking rig. I hope it shoots like it looks.
troy fairweather
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My rule is if a business card will clear it's good, tho I'd like to see some slowmo I bet a scope flexes more then we think. Sucks when your caps won't fit tho.
You mean then old hold it up to the sun and squint method isn't good?? I had to notch a cap once because it wouldn't fit. I like to mount the scope as low as possible so I don't have to raise my head up to line up with the scope. That means I try realllllll hard to avoid large objectives.
troy fairweather
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I don't mind higher up but can't deal with to far away, I got a tight neck and losts of padding so I like the scope back or really good eye relief like a leupold.
On one of those old 6.5-20 Midway scopes I was talking about earlier I had a slight silver mark where I would flex and hit the barrel. That one had maybe a playing cards thickness of clearance.
On the S20 there's just enough clearance to get the Butler Creek caps on but it'd be shoving it directly against the barrel if I did. I just gave those to a friend of mine who ordered the exact same scope But I mounted for him on a new vanguard tonight.
Those rubber bikini caps that came with the Arken work great! though.... I'd really like to be able to have flip-ups on there since I got rained on so much hunting here.
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troy fairweather
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Be nice if they had one of two more stops on the pic rail, the tube on that scope is pretty long for these days and you have just enough.
And why do masks need anti counterfeit codes lol.
And why do masks need anti counterfeit codes lol.
Yeah I had zero leeway I where that scope was going, worked out fine though.
The meopta is long enough that I probably wouldn't have to take that front ring all the way to the last notch.
I assume the anti-counterfeit codes just keep people from sticking stretchy cord on coffee filters..... but who knows those probably would work just as well.....
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Is your cheek piece all the way up? If not, swap rings to a bit higher brand/size. Just curious, what do you like for LOP?
No I have more adjustment available, and I might do that. I used the Arken rings because they are cleaner looking, but the athlons are a tad taller....hadn't really considered that lol.
I'm running bout 14.25 tho I gotta measure....might drop a spacer also so it's a little easier for other people to use the gun.
WisBorn
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Looking forward to the range report on the new Sako S20!!!!
What cartridge is it in again?
7 Remington Magnum
New gun! New Fun!!
Hope the scope works as expected.
What cartridge is it in again?
7 Remington Magnum
New gun! New Fun!!
Hope the scope works as expected.
I try to tailor the scope height to my stock instead of having the magical cheek piece since I like wood stocks. I aim to get the scope low enough to match the stock, but still have everything work right. Might take ring/scope swaps to accomplish. I am also not interested in setting my rifles up for other people. Either they fit it well enough, or they don't. Too much variation in body types.
Yup 7Mag, just dug my brass out to load some rounds. I've got some length to play with in both the chamber and magazine. I wish they had given this a faster twist because at 3.42ish there plenty of space for the heavies.Looking forward to the range report on the new Sako S20!!!!
What cartridge is it in again?
7 Remington Magnum
New gun! New Fun!!
Hope the scope works as expected.
As long as the gun doesn't end up top heavy I don't worry about scope height TOO much, but it's always a concern. A 42 or 44 mm objective in a 1" tube and I don't think I'd need the cheek riser on this gun at all.
My old Zeiss HD5 woulda been perfect.....course that scope was about perfect except I ran out of focus before getting to the max ranges I shoot at.
My two no compromise rifles are my .375 and my 280AI, those are fit to me, and are set up the way I want.....so everyone else can adapt, or get cut lol.
The rest I have adjusted to where all of my friends can shoot them reasonably comfortably.
I'm fine with shorter stocks as long as I'm not punching myself I'm the nose, comb heights fine generally, as my heads bigger and i hold it higher than most of my buddies.
So I had the S20 out with the Midas riding on it this weekend.
I also found my scale and grabbed some weights.....but I can't remember what they are right now lol. It was about 10lbs tho.
Besides being a little on the heavy side I was very happy about the way the s20 handled with the Midas on it. Balance is good off hand, and it didn't try to flop over when it was laying on the bags.
All the particulars about the scope seem to be about perfect. Zeroing was simply measuring the impact with the reticle and making the the adjustments to the turrets (which are excellent in use), looking into the afternoon sun didn't wash out the image, and low light performance continues to impress.
I also had the meopta out on my dad's 6.5Grendel. It's a nicer scope optically but I like the turrets better on the Midas when using them side by side....and I THINK the cables version is already set up for kenton turrets, which might be why they loose some vertical adjustments. I'd forgotten but they are actually noticeably less than the normal Meopta HTR, which is only 30ish anyway.
We ran out of adjustment at 100yds on the Grendel. Least for my dad he was shooting 4" lower than me for some reason.
Group doesn't look great but that's 4 powder charges 1gr apart.
I could actually see all the holes thru the scope, even pick out individuals from the cluster in the middle.
I also found my scale and grabbed some weights.....but I can't remember what they are right now lol. It was about 10lbs tho.
Besides being a little on the heavy side I was very happy about the way the s20 handled with the Midas on it. Balance is good off hand, and it didn't try to flop over when it was laying on the bags.
All the particulars about the scope seem to be about perfect. Zeroing was simply measuring the impact with the reticle and making the the adjustments to the turrets (which are excellent in use), looking into the afternoon sun didn't wash out the image, and low light performance continues to impress.
I also had the meopta out on my dad's 6.5Grendel. It's a nicer scope optically but I like the turrets better on the Midas when using them side by side....and I THINK the cables version is already set up for kenton turrets, which might be why they loose some vertical adjustments. I'd forgotten but they are actually noticeably less than the normal Meopta HTR, which is only 30ish anyway.
We ran out of adjustment at 100yds on the Grendel. Least for my dad he was shooting 4" lower than me for some reason.
Group doesn't look great but that's 4 powder charges 1gr apart.
I could actually see all the holes thru the scope, even pick out individuals from the cluster in the middle.
“Group doesn't look great but that's 4 powder charges 1gr apart.
I could actually see all the holes thru the scope, even pick out individuals from the cluster in the middle.”
Nice! It will tighten up when you choose your charge weight
I could actually see all the holes thru the scope, even pick out individuals from the cluster in the middle.”
Nice! It will tighten up when you choose your charge weight
Sorry, 3 powder charges, 2 shots each..... hopefully ill get out again friday with my Chrono and chair so im not crouching behind a folding table.
Should probably take my bipod too lol.
Oh i also didnt have any scope issues even from my wierd position.
Should probably take my bipod too lol.
Oh i also didnt have any scope issues even from my wierd position.
Double checked my zero (new scope) after work, first three were inside the circle, then I put the Magnetospeed on to get numbers and got sloppy. Started with a freshly cleaned barrel
Avg 2861 FPS at 48 degrees
Avg 2861 FPS at 48 degrees
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Thats sloppy?!
That's a beautiful setup..... Whats the chamber and what Zeiss is that?
I'm pretty sure I've read about it, but right now I can't remember......
I've actually been surprised how little my magneto speed has changed my point of impact. So much so that, if I actually remember to take the thing with me, I'll zero the gun while I'm getting my initial Chrono data and doing a pressure ladder.
For the most part I haven't found my point of impact to change very much.
That's a beautiful setup..... Whats the chamber and what Zeiss is that?
I'm pretty sure I've read about it, but right now I can't remember......
I've actually been surprised how little my magneto speed has changed my point of impact. So much so that, if I actually remember to take the thing with me, I'll zero the gun while I'm getting my initial Chrono data and doing a pressure ladder.
For the most part I haven't found my point of impact to change very much.
Agreed, seems to make it go up a tiny hair, and left/right a hair if it is canted.
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