Where they headspace is irrelevant. If it works in a semi auto, it will work in a lever gun.
Why don't we have a lever action 9mm?
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Every tried loading rounds using .38SC brass. Wonder how many more you could get in the magazine?
Dave DeLaurant
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C E "Ed" Harris (not the actor) converted a couple of Marlin 1894 lever actions to .45 ACP decades back. I have a PDF of a magazine article about his first example (American Rifleman, July 1983, pp. 36-77,76-77), but here's a link that contains a more recent discussion:
http://www.grantcunningham.com/2011/12/ed-harris-using-the-45acp-in-a-rifle/
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someguy2800
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I don't really see how headspacing on the case mount introduces a problem.
BlueHeelerFl
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I ran 38 spl fmj in my 357 Marlin 1894 with out any issues. I spot when I read you shouldn't. In mind mind those weren't pointed bullets
redneck2
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Why not just get a 100 year old Winchester in 25-20 or 32-20?
I think they beat you to it by maybe a hundred years
I think they beat you to it by maybe a hundred years
Charlie98
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No, I agree, but JMR used the .35REM as an example of a rimless cartridge... even though it headspaces on the case shoulder, rim or not. Would a lever 9mm work? Don't see why not. Would I buy one? Not in a million years. The beauty of the 9mm is as an autoloading cartridge, IMHO. It would be like chambering the Ruger PC carbine in .38SPC.... why?
I got you. The reason it would be cool is you could get about 16 rounds in a tubular mag and be very cheap to shoot for non reloader people.
I have a 357 mag carbine. 25-20 or 32-20 are a reloader proposition because of ammo price. 9mm is cheap enough that it doesn't pay to reload it for most people.
redneck2
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Everybody thinks they’re inventing some new, super-dooper idea.
As Rudyard Kipling said “there’s nothing new under the sun”. Of course, that came from the Bible and was written a couple thousand years before Kipling
As Rudyard Kipling said “there’s nothing new under the sun”. Of course, that came from the Bible and was written a couple thousand years before Kipling
It's not about something new. It's about bringing back something cool in a cheap cartridge.
The 32-20 is like 38spl, only cheap if you reload.
My wife loves to shoot lever actions and burns up my ammo.
CraigC
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9mm hardball is a little too pointy for comfort.
This weekend I'm going to take a 9mm dummy round and a primed brass and see if I can make it go off with a hammer.
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Ever heard of a 22 long rifle?
crestoncowboy
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There are a ton of lever action 22s though. Henry, ithaca, winchester, marlin, browning, mossberg, Remington, chiappa..... higher capacity, flatter shooting and cheaper than a 9mm too. Doesn't matter though, if you want one it would likely be a custom endeavor but could be amusing.
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Dang it, Jack Ryan......I type too slow i guess
someguy2800
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The appeal of a lever in 9mm to me is more thump on my steel plate range than a 22 and I already load 9mm by the bucket. I reload 38 special as well, but not in the same volume.
I like 22 for handguns and squirrel hunting. In a rifle it doesn't move steel plates or break clays very well. It also doesn't have the grin factor that a 38 does.
BigBlue 94
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Ruger did make a 96 in 44mag... super fun to shoot and a handy deer rifle. But limited to a 4 round rotary box mag
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Be nice to work in the magazine assembly from the PCC in a new one. Or just a 9mm, .40, or .45 rotary mag would be fine.
dh1633pm
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How many 9 MM's are pointy? For the purposes of a Lever Gun in 9 MM, would round noses (FMJ's) be considered as pointy enough?
The politically correct thing is no round nose fmjs. I have run 500 s&b 357 round nose fmjs in my Rossi without issues.
Will all the light primer strike issues, I don't see why people are paranoid about it.
I wouldn't run military style fmjs in a tube mag because they are too close to the shape of a firing pin.
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Most if not all store bought 30-30 ammo I've bought is about as pointy/rounded as FMJ pistol ammo. With that being said I did witness a Thompson drum mag set off a round where the spring hung up long enough for two 45ACP to fall over and get slammed together by the follower when the spring caught up. The impact was enough to indent the brass about 1/8" deep. I just don't see the standard follower and spring in a tube fed lever gun to be strong enough to indent like that but IveI been wrong before.
Elkins45
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I may be wrong but I think a 9mm lever gun that takes Glock magazines would sell like gangbusters in the ban states. The BLR takes long box magazines so making a similar gun that takes short 9mm ones should be mechanically feasible.
Janos Dracwlya
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I would definitely buy a lever gun in 9mm, whether loading gate/tube magazine or removable box magazine. Another one I would love to see would be a version of the Taurus Circuit Judge, except in .357 magnum with an eight-round cylinder and the ability to use moon clips.
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