You might just be a Mall Ninja if:

[Caimlas]

How dare those worthless rent-a-cops try to be friendly with real cops. Don't they know their place?

Yep.

On one hand, the "mall ninjas" are idiots for trying to fit in and be "officious" to the level that they do.

On the other hand, there's obviously a degree of elitism (not community service) perceived of most police organizations which draws them to try and "fit in" with cops. So, they're "victims" of their own "success".

 

[Caimlas]

Additionally, their lack of knowledge of the law is just about as unschooled as the average citizen.

What point were you trying to make with this? That the law is obscenely complex, and that no mere citizen could possibly obey and interpret it all to stay within the guidelines, in order to remain out of trouble? Or that law enforcement is for elite, specially trained people so they can "enforce the law" more thoroughly, and that a mere citizen hasn't got a clue? Or something else entirely?

I've got nothing against cops innately - I know several good people who either were cops, are cops, or are stepped in "cop culture" (cop families, cadets, etc.) and are moving to becoming cops. I like most of them. But the evident contempt for citizenry as demonstrated in your post is sadly indicative of the "police culture" in this country - as perceived by quite a few people - and it sickens me.

I live in a small town right now (1300 ppl), my best friend is working to become a cop, and I'm good friends with one of the (thee) local county sheriff deputies. And still, I get a knot in my stomach every time I see a car with a light bar driving towards me - even when I'm minding my own business, on my own property. And I've never "broken the law" beyond speeding (which I've carefully minded since my 2nd speeding ticket, years ago).

Sure, it's an irrational fear, but it's one provoked by the aloof and hostile attitude I've frequently experienced in my limited interactions with police.

 

[Caimlas]

I just thought of something. While almost every field has it's "posers" of one fashion or another (doubt there are too many in food service), and while almost all of them look entirely awkward, out of place, and geeky, the IT field is probably the only one where the truly geeky, awkward ones are the true "professionals". They're virtually indistinguishable until the poser brings down your servers in the middle of the night.

 

[The Tourist]

in my limited interactions

That says a lot. A lot of my clients are cops, and I can assure you that they dislike unprofessional LEO's as much as you do. It makes them all look bad.

As for the word "unschooled," I chose that word because it is exactly correct.

For example, I have a limited knowledge of anatomy from college classes, and I carry a sharp knife.

If you were choking, I've certain I could be directed by a professional on how to do a tracheotomy. I doubt if you'd want me operating on one of your kidneys or lungs.

I am unschooled.

You'd be amazed on how many mall guards think they have the power of arrest and doing a search. In one court case guards were sued for strip searching a guy's wife. Trust me, they are unschooled.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

"I just thought of something. While almost every field has it's "posers" of one fashion or another (doubt there are too many in food service), and while almost all of them look entirely awkward, out of place, and geeky, the IT field is probably the only one where the truly geeky, awkward ones are the true "professionals". They're virtually indistinguishable until the poser brings down your servers in the middle of the night.
"


there are lots of phoneys in food service. my favorite are the "certified master chefs" there are some maybe one in a 100 that claim to be one are and i'm probably being generous. its a human nature thing plus if folks buy the lie you make more money

 

[The Tourist]

my favorite are the "certified master chefs"

Boy, I hope you're wrong. I sharpen for a lot of chefs. They're buying those expensive knives from some type of income.

Actually, I usually go to the restaurant and sharpen in the kitchen. You do get to see who really knows what they are doing with a knife.

To be fair, the only chef I ever had to fire was simply a financial problem. He was slow to pay. I saw him destroy a board full of vegetables with a butakiri (a knife made more for meat) just to see if that knife was good as an all-around tool. There was no question of his skill.

 

[xm15]

Originally posted by The Tourist
I dislike chest-thumpers

Originally posted by The Tourist
ClickClickD'oh, you are certainly the type of debater people ultimately hate. Paste and copy. Paste and copy.

My feeling is that your concern for the argument actually goes the other way. Meaning, you don't really believe that the crux of my argument is that I have disdain for the tacticool, rather, I think your got rattled by a biker. Big time. Someone on a Harley really scared you silly.

This debate has been going on for several pages--basically all on the same slant. Then you find out I'm a biker, and here's your chance.

You can safely insult and deride a group that you don't have the guts to challenge in real life. Which is kind of the topic here to begin with.

Here's the dirty little secret. Yeah, the biker probably sent warm pee down your leg. But let's be real. Bikers fight equals. There's not much glory in jamming the tacticool head first into their "patrol Prius." Relax. No one cares.

Seems like a bit of the pot calling the kettle black.

As a motorcyclist, I'd just like to say that you are NOT the kind of example the majority of motorcyclists want representing them. The tough-guy 'tude gets old, real quick.

ClickClickD'oh makes a much better ambassador for private security than you do for bikers.

Finally, this being the High Road, I suggest this thread should be locked. There is nothing positive to be gained from it.

 

[Poper]

What exactly is a biker? Isn't it a love for a lifestyle based on an attitude and a manor of dress.

Maybe. Check out the link below.
They don't all fit the stereotype...
http://www.patriotguard.org/AboutUs/OurMission/tabid/60/Default.aspx

Poper

 

[The Tourist]

As a motorcyclist, I'd just like to say that you are NOT the kind of example the majority of motorcyclists

Thank you, Dr. Phil.

You don't know me, and chances are, not many motorcyclists either. The guys I know, who actually tally up the miles, find ways to gather, not ways to divide.

If I need your advice on riding in the future, I'll tell you. Till then, read some of the posts before you pop off. Obviously you don't know how this started.

 

[davepool]

I thought this thread was supposed to about funny/weird/interesting experiences we've had with security type folks.....or, You might be a Mall Ninja...if you take yourself to seriously

 

[siglite]

For example, a guy who yells 'poser' is a guy that doesn't have the physical strength to get a Harley off the kick-stand. So he belittles the entire group.

Hahah... man, this thread's really drifting. While I wouldn't yell 'poser' at a bunch of weekend-warrior RUBs scowling at traffic and lookin' all mean and tough in their black leathers and chains and tiny lil brain buckets, I'd sure be thinkin' it.

And FWIW, I can pick a harley off the ground, let alone it's kickstand. And yeah, I can ride too. I've had my knee on the ground at Road A, VIR, Summit Point, and Mid Ohio.

Though, to try and reel this trainwreck back to the original topic... What I've found is that most of the crap-slinging about this or that (say, for example security guards, harley riders, and sport-bike riders such as myself) comes from some will to express a sense of elitism. It's nothing more than chest thumping. And now I've thumped mine. In the immortal words of Tim Allen... Ar Ar Ar Ar.

I think the difference is, I recognize and admit what I've done.

 

[DougDubya]

Tourist's sneering derision is hardly the stuff of THE HIGH ROAD.

Another vote for THE LOCK on this thread.

Then we can have a mall ninja thread with funny stories about mall ninjas, not uncouth, unwarranted, and sneering insults of people who work for a living.

 

[Treo]

A Mall Ninja Thread With Funny Stories About Mall Ninjas,

Then we can have a mall ninja thread with funny stories about mall ninjas,

Your wish is my command

 

[Tom Servo]

I'm surprised we haven't addressed the true threat anywhere on this thread:

That's right, pirates. Who else will keep them at bay? We need ninjas, and lots of them.

 

[DougDubya]

Treo - if they had praise or ratings on THR, you'd score big! THANK YOU!

Eric F - for Ninja infestations, this is the lad to talk to...

 

[DougDubya]

Or this gentleman

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

My feeling is that your concern for the argument actually goes the other way. Meaning, you don't really believe that the crux of my argument is that I have disdain for the tacticool, rather, I think your got rattled by a biker. Big time. Someone on a Harley really scared you silly.

This debate has been going on for several pages--basically all on the same slant. Then you find out I'm a biker, and here's your chance.

If you care to take a trip back down memory lane, you'll find I started laying into you before I found out you were a biker.

In doing that, ClickClickD'oh showed us a parallel fear/dislike he has for bikers. Now, that's something I can remedy.

Are you about done with your fantasy creation yet?

If we were in the same room, I would tell him to go to a Harley shop on a Saturday afternoon and actually meet some folks.

Would you prefer the one in Waco? I've shopped there often enough.

I really don't like to shop in the Harley shops though. They are a rip-off.

ClickClickD'oh has some real hatred

Oh please, where have I directed any negativity, much less hatred towards bikers?

This has become non-sensical at best. I asked you to tell us what your experience was that gives you such a negative opinion of security officers. Since you have abstained from answering that can only leave us to conclude that you haven't had one and you just have a general disdain for security officers based not on experience but instead on pre-concieved notions. If you had read my posts, that is the very same thing I was refusing to do with bikers in order to demonstrate your bigotry in a manner you can personally relate to. I see I failed to connect there.

How you associated that with me fearing or hating bikers is beyond me.

Have a good evening sir.

 

[jrfoxx]

I thought this thread was supposed to about funny/weird/interesting experiences we've had with security type folks.....or, You might be a Mall Ninja...if you take yourself to seriously

That was certainly what I thought the OP was going for, and was certainly the spirit in which I made my post early on.The pic I posted was in NO WAY meant as a slam on security guards, or ANYONE, really.It was intended to be something I did for fun, and to be humourous, and reminisciant of the legendary Gecko45.I'm actually a little surprised and sad (ok, not really) that no one even commented on my dressup pic.I though it was pretty funny.Guess I'll need to keep my day job....
It's too bad this one got so far OT, as we have had sume HILARIOUS mall ninja threads here in the past.I was hoping to get my haha fix with yet another.....