Shot Show 2019: Smith & Wesson admits that that putting keyholes on their revolvers was a terrible idea, that everyone hated it, and that they were no longer going to do it.
Then I woke up.
Very much a possibility. Heck, Ruger finally got rid of the danged LCI thingy that stuck out of the side of the MK III receiver with all of the allure of a compound fractured femur.
If S&W did eliminate the 'keyhole' locks, my bet is that they'd see a significant increase in sales; there are several models that I'd love to get. Of course, earlier in this thread I wished for the return of their 3rd Generation (4-digit) semiautomatics like the 5906, 4506, 1006 etc., but I think that that is a probably a pipe dream...I am willing to chant endless supplications to the gun designer gods if they do it...
I would like to see a .32 LCP II. The low recoil and good trigger will make it so I can get better follow up shots faster. I don't trust most hollow points in .380, the only ones I've seen that are any good are Hornady Critical Defense and XTP's, but I'm not one to want to rely on a hollow point coming out a 2.75" barrel, so I'm going to use a solid projectile anyway, either a Polycase Inceptor in .380 or the Lehigh Defense in .32 ACP.
More 10mm everything. Pistols, rifles, carbines... i don't care, just make them.
More .32 H&R and .327 Federal ammo and bullets. The .32 needs support from the industry, it's clear that women are getting into .32 revolvers, the demand is growing. How any ammo manufacturer can justify making expensive ammo in .41 Magnum and not reasonably priced .32/.327 Mag doesn't make sense. The .41 demand is decreasing, people would rather have .44, if the .41 hasn't taken off since the 60s, it never will.
Ruger making an updated .44 carbine, but not in just .44, I want it in .327, .357, .44, .45 Colt and I want the mag tub to be full length, no more of the 4 round limit. Also, I want it to have two magazine tubes like the KSG does to the capacity is closer to 15 rds and I want the tubes to alternate the feeding. Can you imagine a 15 round semi auto .357 or .44 Mag? I wouldn't even want a 10mm carbine if something like this existed.
The Midland rifle barrels to finally come out. Seriously, it's been a year, let's get them going Midland, I want a damn single shot .357 already.
GWACS to unveil their updated polymer AR lowers. Hopefully these will come with interchangeable pistols grips and buttstock spacers.
I would like a .22lr LCPII , don’t shoot rimfire much but I’d shoot the crap out of an LCP.
You might try the Phoenix Hpa. Excellent short barrel pistol.
Ruger knew that those stupid things caused out of battery firings from time to time, a very good reason to get rid of them. I didn't mind them but after my third out of battery firing I liked the hole better.Very much a possibility. Heck, Ruger finally got rid of the danged LCI thingy that stuck out of the side of the MK III receiver with all of the allure of a compound fractured femur.
If S&W did eliminate the 'keyhole' locks, my bet is that they'd see a significant increase in sales; there are several models that I'd love to get. Of course, earlier in this thread I wished for the return of their 3rd Generation (4-digit) semiautomatics like the 5906, 4506, 1006 etc., but I think that that is a probably a pipe dream...I am willing to chant endless supplications to the gun designer gods if they do it...
4516 too! Loved those model S&W’sI'd love for S&W to start making the 1006, 5906, 3906, 4506 and 4006 again. I'd buy five of each. Not holding my breath.
Will this do?Wisco said:I want a Glock brand 9mm carbine
Yeah, Ruger copied the P3AT to make the LCP and the P3AT was just a .380 dropped into the P32, so you're not wrong when you say the .32 is what the LCP was meant to shoot.Ditto on the Midland Barrels. In fact just tried to contact them on this. The 32. in the LCP would be a great choice since I believe the gun is designed for that cartridge in the first place and not 380. The Keltec right now would be my choice for the 32, because of the very LIGHT weight and ability to shoot Lehigh ammo.
The Midland in 357 might be very nice. Especially the Light Weight of only 4 1/2 lbs. the rugged build quality and the low price. The Little gun already proved to me that shooting 00 buckshot with a 18" barrel and getting very good groups at 25 yds was no problem with a box of 25 shells shot back to back. Even the 9mm insert did well considering I was using a Bead sight.
I would love to see what the Midland 357. could do with a light weight Scope like a Bug Buster or Clearridge 11oz scope mounted on it.
Ruger knew that those stupid things caused out of battery firings from time to time, a very good reason to get rid of them. I didn't mind them but after my third out of battery firing I liked the hole better.
4516 too! Loved those model S&W’s
Yeah, Ruger copied the P3AT to make the LCP and the P3AT was just a .380 dropped into the P32, so you're not wrong when you say the .32 is what the LCP was meant to shoot.
I like the Keltec's weight for the P32 as well, but the trigger is a no go, as are the sights.
The Midland is going to be the next H&R Handi Rifle, but better as the barrels will be drop in just like the T/C single shots, but at half the price.
I love the MK3, one of the best firearms I have ever handled. Im angry they discontinued it. As you said, the Standards weren't really that hard, and you only need to take them apart every 20,000 rounds or so anyway. I would buy a MK4, but they switched to an aluminum grip, and now its not a natural pointer. If interested, the LCI on the MK3 was two piece, so you could keep the hole covered, and remove the metal fin that pushed it out (and caused my OOB's)I was unaware of that...likely 'cause I never bothered buying one of the MK IIIs. I have two MK IIs, one a stainless Gov't 6 7/8th barrel and the other being 10'' stainless MK II that held me over until they got rid of the danged LCI. I like the MK IVs, even with the weird lumps under the receiver. Never had much trouble taking apart the MK IIs although I cansee how it could be hard if familiarity lacked. I could never get past the idea of having a hole in the side of the receiver where the LCI was.
I love the MK3, one of the best firearms I have ever handled. Im angry they discontinued it. As you said, the Standards weren't really that hard, and you only need to take them apart every 20,000 rounds or so anyway. I would buy a MK4, but they switched to an aluminum grip, and now its not a natural pointer. If interested, the LCI on the MK3 was two piece, so you could keep the hole covered, and remove the metal fin that pushed it out (and caused my OOB's)
this here makes the pcc builds cheap. i think i could do one under 250 and i am in a state where they need to be compliant. these have a life time warranty to .https://www.meanarms.com/products/detail/endomag-9mmA few things:
1. A little competition in the .22 DA revolver department. For $400 or less there are loads of .22 semis: SR22, P22, mosquito, mark pistols, buck mark, issc...the list goes on. For a plinker I only know of the Charter Pathfinder.
2. A reasonably cheap way to build a 9mm carbine that accepts glock magazines. The PCC did a nice job of this but I’d like a way build something in the same way as an AR.
3. A double actin black powder revolver.
yes if they come out and are sub 200 they will sell good, i would not mind a 357.I have to join all of you hoping for Midland to come out with their rifle barrels. As soon as they come out with a .357, .223, .300 Blk, or .308 I'm going to get one of each and get them threaded. An affordable single shot rifle like that should make a great platform for quiet plinking.