How many foreign firearms do you own?

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The following foreign countries are represented in my accumulation:

Argentina (2)
Brazil (5)
Bulgaria (1)
China-PRC (3)
Czeckoslovakia (defunct) (1)
Germany (1)
Hungary (1)
Italy (1)
Poland (1)
Romania (1)
Russian Soviet Socialist Republic (defunct) (1)
Serbia (1)
Spain (1)
Turkey (1)
 
80 made in the US

Spain 4
France 1
Austria 1
Germany 1
Belgium 4
Czech 4
China 2
Italy 2
Hungary 1
Turkey 1
Sweden 1
 
Half.

Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic (the absolute most), Belgium (second most), China, Romania, Bulgaria, Italy, Austria, Germany, Turkey, Finland and Russia.
 
troy fairweather said:
there all good guns, but i would bet at the same time there were better guns, cost is a big factor in what is used especially by military.
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We're cool, Troy, but when you make a statement like that you should be prepared to back it up with at least a researched opinion as to why there were actual models of non-US firearms which performed better at their designed task at that time. I stand by my assessment that the were no comparable guns produced anywhere in the world generally superior to the SAA, M1911, Registered Magnum, or Garand at the time of their introduction.

Were the '91 and '98 Mausers generally superior to the Krag and even the early '03 Springfield, sure.
Were the FAL and G3 generally superior to the M14, yep.
Was the Glock 17 generally superior to any US made service pistol in 1982, ok.

Im not denying that there have been excellent firearms designed and produced worldwide which outshone their US contemporaries, but to say that we have NEVER made a world-beating firearm is just untrue.

Prove me wrong, and Ill admit it.
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
We're cool, Troy, but when you make a statement like that you should be prepared to back it up with at least a researched opinion as to why there were actual models of non-US firearms which performed better at their designed task at that time. I stand by my assessment that the were no comparable guns produced anywhere in the world generally superior to the SAA, M1911, Registered Magnum, or Garand at the time of their introduction.

Were the '91 and '98 Mausers generally superior to the Krag and even the early '03 Springfield, sure.
Were the FAL and G3 generally superior to the M14, yep.
Was the Glock 17 generally superior to any US made service pistol in 1982, ok.

Im not denying that there have been excellent firearms designed and produced worldwide which outshone their US contemporaries, but to say that we have NEVER made a world-beating firearm is just untrue.

Prove me wrong, and Ill admit it.
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best is very subjective, i am just saying just because it was made here does not mean it's the best. i hate when people will hate a gun just because it's not made in the usa. the new winchester model 70s are a good example, they are as good or better then the pre64s
 
troy fairweather said:
15 i never understood the guys that say they must be made in the usa, there excuse is the usa makes the best guns in the world. well we don't and never did.
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“excuse” has nothing to do with it. Every manufacturer, foreign or domestic, has had products with problems as well as good products. (I had a SIG P229 with the take down lever snap off upon initial disassembly. I had a Glock 26 that was missing the spring that the take down bar was suppose to rest on. It happens.

As for U.S.A., some just like to support domestic companies.
 
Interesting question. I had never really thought about my "arsenal" in those terms.

It's actually kind of a difficult question to answer because there is more than one way to put guns into foreign and domestic categories. I'm going to do my assessment by saying that guns made by a company that is primarily a foreign company (even if they have a U.S. branch and make some guns in the U.S.) are foreign guns.

So a Springfield Armory XD is a foreign gun because it is made by a Croatian company. A Beretta is a foreign gun even if it is made in the U.S. because Beretta is primarily a foreign company.

Using that criterion, here's how it breaks down.

About 70% of my long guns are foreign.
About 50% of my handguns are foreign.
About 55% of my firearms are foreign.
 
Fabric National has a factory in Colombia SC. Beretta had a factory in MD, but I think they moved. Does SIG have a factory in the USA? Doesn't the federal government insist that makers of USA military arms make them in the USA?
 
My SIG522 was made in the US and imported into the UK. There were several versions available,

Regarding companies with a footprint in the US and EU for example, they can be distinct from one another to the point that you can consider them separate entitites entirely.

An example is FN.
I made several enquiries a few years back to FN this side of the pond, with regards to acquiring the FN SLP shotgun. That's the one I wanted after doing quite a bit of research into it.

I was told they could not help me at all with this, it was an American product and they couldn't import it for me.
I had to enquire with the US branch and they couldn't export that to the UK. Barrel length is a couple inches too short and they didn't have any workarounds for me (it is too short for a section 1 license).
 
troy fairweather said:
15 i never understood the guys that say they must be made in the usa, there excuse is the usa makes the best guns in the world. well we don't and never did.
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While I will admit that the Europeans have an edge on 9mm semi-autos and nothing can compare to a British double rifle or shotgun and that the German Mauser defined what a bolt action rifle should be but I'm hard pressed to think of a foreign company that could make a revolver as good as a Colt or Smith& Wesson.
 
brutus51 said:
While I will admit that the Europeans have an edge on 9mm semi-autos and nothing can compare to a British double rifle or shotgun and that the German Mauser defined what a bolt action rifle should be but I'm hard pressed to think of a foreign company that could make a revolver as good as a Colt or Smith& Wesson.
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Well, theres the Korth, but its production is so limited, I consider it a custom or bespoke peice, rather than a true production item.
Some folks will put the Manurhin above the US revolvers too. I handled and shot one. It was nice, but no way I judged it superior to a M27 or Python.
 
About 40% of my guns are foreign made and only about a third were made in the last quarter century. Of the guns that get used the most, all are over a half century old, about half US made and half foreign and a couple over a century old.
 
I've seen a Korth, way over my price point, more of a custom gun and while I've never handled or shot one I doubt if the quality, fit and finish could be better than my Colt Python or a M27 Smith.
In addition for the price of a Korth you should be able to swap out barrels like on my Dan Wesson.:p
 
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