30 days on FX Gun nation

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Myself and the owner of the gunshop in the show (John Thyne) had the full auto's and suppressed guns at the fun shoot filmed.

Pia seemed very distraught by the concussion of the guns, as well as having some "artistic" conflict with the producer of the show. He wanted to film sort of a mad minute to start and I'm the one with the HK91A3 on the line, and the MP5SDA3 later in the shoot.

There was a lot filmed during the month that never made it into the final broadcast. John, Pia and Ken had several stat fights, but it really made for boring TV as it was point, counterpoint, ad naseum. The producer felt that having Pia in more events would either change her mind or not, faster than airing a You Tube style statistical debate.

BTW, several members of the film crew bought guns during the filming of the show.

I had many conversations with Pia and she never did get the terminology correct as far as the difference between automatic and semi-automatic. We got into a interesting conversation one evening about rap music and the parallels it has with fostering a violent culture. I had asked her if her dance livelihood or personal choice in being able to listen to whatever song she wanted to dance or enjoy would affect her if the parrallels were true, and the government banned all music that contained violent or offensive lyrics.

I had never met Ken until I was involved in the 30 Days filming as a part owner in Peabody Sports. During the time I was exposed to him, he seemed a decent, hardworking, typical rural father trying to raise a son in a difficult economy. He's not Charleton Heston or Wayne Pierre, but I think that a polished, stat spouter would have been detrimental to the premise of the show. Ken is a red blooded Americam Marine that believes in the 2nd Amendment, who was able to help pass along some knowledge to Pia.
 
I just finished both watching the episode (I dvr-ed it) and reading through this entire thread. Time for my $.02. First, I thought it was a fantastic, very well balanced show. I really was nervous about watching it, fearing a distinct anti slant. However, having watched several other 30 Days episodes (I'm a fan of the show in general) I hoped for the same even portrayal as all the other episodes I've seen. IMHO, that's exactly what I got. A true, Massachusetts style (I'm from here, I know the type) anti-gunner, and a true, responsible average American gun owner. On that note, I've read many comments from people wishing he'd made better arguments on this, that, or whatever. Let us not keep in mind that this is 720 hours (30 days) of people's lives crammed into an edited, 60 minute (including commercials) show. Let's not fault him for not making the right arguments just because we didn't see them on TV. Maybe he didn't say the all the right things, but she's on record in the Boston Herald saying that he is a responsible gun owner, and not the type of person an anti would need to worry about. What more can you really ask for?
 
More tidbits of info:

For the day shoot, the production crew consisted of four people (producer, assistant producer, camera man, and sound guy). The producer, camera man, and sound guy took turns shooting the .50 BMG. They had a blast.

When I was packing up to leave, the assistant producer asked me if the ammo for the .50 was expensive. I replied, "Yea, kinda. But I think we only shot around $60 worth." She then handed me $60.

They never offered to pay for the .308 ammo I shot through the FAL. But that's O.K. ... I was extremely grateful that they paid me for the .50 ammo. I never expected that!


I believe it will be shown again at the following times:

- Friday, July 4th 10pm Central/11 pm Eastern
- Sunday, July 6th 10pm Central/11 pm Eastern

And dammit, I still haven't seen the show. :scrutiny:
 
BTW, im sitting here watching this with my SKS across my lap. I'd better put it down, i might get herpes.

I'm expecting a check to cover the cost of my keyboard. :D
 
Let us not keep in mind that this is 720 hours (30 days) of people's lives crammed into an edited, 60 minute (including commercials) show. Let's not fault him for not making the right arguments just because we didn't see them on TV.
I agree that it's important to remember that when critiquing the guy. Also, I'm sure having a fil crew recording your life for 30 days, knowing that it was going to be broadcast nation-wide, on prime-time TV, cam be a little distracting, and unnerving. Likely makes it a little hard to always give your best, well thought out, in advance, response.While we all like to think we would have done better with this or that, I'm willing to bet, few of us would have really done (or come off), a whole lot better, overall.
 
Here is a link where Pia Lalli talks about her experience on 30 Days.
http://news.bostonherald.com/entert...e_on_FX_s_‘30_Days_/srvc=home&position=recent

Quote:
Despite their differences on gun control, Lalli said her experience with Ekermeyer and his son was a positive one.
“He’s a law-abiding gun (enthusiast) who owns a gun, several guns. If it’s against the law, he won’t do it. He’s not the person I need to worry about,” she said.

And another. http://www.metrobostonnews.com/us/article/2008/07/01/02/2912-66/index.xml

Quote:
Lalli says Eckermeyer was a gentleman despite their differences, but she was a bit overwhelmed by the isolation of her rural surroundings, the oppressive heat and the fridge stocked with Hot Pockets. She is a fitness instructor after all.
 
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Here is her website for anyone interested.

http://www.hiphopfunshop.com/

I sent her this e-mail
Pia,

As a strong supporter of 2nd Amendment rights in the country and as a US Marine, a sworn defender of the Constitution. I want to thank you for not only participating in the show but having an open mind and being willing to travel outside of your comfort zone to explore what the "other side of the coin" is like. I must say I have large amounts of respect for you and what you were willing to do and learn given your background and history on the subject of firearms.

If you are ever out in Texas and feel the need to shoot don't hesitate to send me an e-mail and I would be more than happy to take you out shooting here locally.


Once again thanks and I hope you have a safe life back in Mass.

Stay safe out there,
SGT. XXXXX, XXXXXX
USMCR
 
thanks, count glockula, for the herald article. and big thanks to SMGCat and Molon Labe for their insights. i hope you'll stick around on the site, SMG...

I had never met Ken until I was involved in the 30 Days filming as a part owner in Peabody Sports. During the time I was exposed to him, he seemed a decent, hardworking, typical rural father trying to raise a son in a difficult economy. He's not Charleton Heston or Wayne Pierre, but I think that a polished, stat spouter would have been detrimental to the premise of the show. Ken is a red blooded Americam Marine that believes in the 2nd Amendment, who was able to help pass along some knowledge to Pia.

as one of the people who said they wished he had been a bit more articulate, i want to clarify that i am not calling him trailer trash by any means. i definitely respect him for exactly the reasons you mention above.

it also sounds like he may have tried more arguments with pia that we didn't get to see, which i guess i can understand, as it would be boring TV to everyone but those of us who are immersed in gun culture. i guess the part that really bothered me was when the ceasefire ladies were grilling him and they cut to a shot of him shrugging and smirking in silence. drove me crazy! maybe he said something again that we didn't get to see, but it was frustrating to see their BS go unchallenged in the program.

still, i agree that it was good exposure for us.
 
As I've already stated, I feel Ken did just fine representing the pro-gun side of this issue in the show. Beyond that, however, I feel if he had always been perfectly spot-on with counter-arguments and whatnot for everything the anti's had to say, it would have presented a much more rehersed, staged appearance and wouldn't have had a genuine feel. Ken's just a regular guy. He's not Wayne LaPierre, John Lott, or Alan Gura. That's a good thing, because the knee-jerk reaction of the anti's is to reject anything that the "gun lobby" says. Ken came across not as a hardcore lobbyist or activist, but as a friendly neighbor and responsible parent that happens to enjoy the shooting sports. That's exactly what the anti's need to see. They need to understand that we aren't extremists. We aren't scheming lobbyists constantly trying to advance our agenda. We aren't hotheads who shoot at anyone that has more than 12 items in the express lane at Walmart. We aren't criminals hoping to prey on the weak with our firearms. We're just ordinary people, just like Ken, leading ordinary lives. We also have guns, and ya know what, that's ordinary too.
 
The links on post #154 are working now. I think they are archived after 7 days so they may not work for long.
 
I sent her a nice letter as well. I think that it would be cool if she got a bunch of supportive letters from gun owners that show that Ken isn't the sole "decent" gun owner out there.
 
Yeah, she's a cute little thing with a great ass. Quite the energetic little spinner, I'd guess. I'd give it a whirl for sure...
 
I just found a link where Pia was interviewed at a radio station the day before the show aired on FX. I don't think she has changed her opinion about guns as much as it might have appeared on the show. The interview lasts about 9 minutes.
When you hit the link below, scroll down to the eighth interview listed and hit the "listen" link under "Pia Lalli."
http://www.kiss108.com/cc-common/podcast.html
 
She replied to my e-mail. I guess some guys over on ARFCOM had photoshopped a picture of her and she has taken offense to it.

First let me say thank you for your message. I'm glad that I earned the respect of people like yourself. On that note....I am going to ask that you and your friends on "AR15.COM" give me the same respect. I might be wrong, but I believe I saw your name posted on that website. I am extremely offended by the doctored photo that someone posted, as is my boyfriend, my parents, and anyone else that might stumble upon it. You seem like an intelligent man and I would ask that you post my reply to those knukleheads, since I can't. Thank you...

To AR15.com community:
Hello from Massachusetts. I am your favorite "anti-gunner" and I want to thank you for making it so easy for me to expose all of you as the redneck, ignorant hicks that you are. Posting doctored photos of me? Seriously? And you are angry about us "city folk" lumping all of you into the "trailer trash" category? We have a saying here in Massachusetts, "let the idiots speak"
If you ever decide to come to the East Coast, leave your guns, your skoal, and your Budweiser....and you might want to bring a dictionary.
This is what she told me about whatever they did to the picture. I have yet to find it she asked me to post that response over on ARFCOM for her. I was going to but can't find the thread where she claims it happened. I assume it's on the General Discussion board and if it is it's probably buried 20 pages back by now

I absolutley do not lump you into that category, that is why I felt comfortable sending you the message to post. Just so you can understand how & why I am upset, the picture has the word "cream pie" written across my chest, a fishing cap on my head, and a machine gun strapped to my body. (I could deal with the hat and the gun, but the comment on the shirt is unacceptable)

Thank you again, and if you are ever in Boston, don't hesitate to email me. I would love to take you out for a "lobstaaaa" & some "chowdaaah"

And thank you for all that you do to keep our country safe. My father is a former marine. semper fi!
pia
 
What a freakin' drama queen. :rolleyes:

I'm on AR15.com all the time and have NEVER seen what she's talking about. Lobstaaa and chowdaaah? No thanks. You might be cute, but when you start talking with that Bwaaah-stin accent? It's ball gag time, baby.
 
I watched it last week, quite a transformation in the girls attitude in a relatively short period of time.
 
There was a situation that occured involving the fine young lady in the episode and IIRC ar15.com over a picture of her photoshopped that included a gun. There are many on this board that probably know more about it than I. I do have to say I liked the episode alot.
 
People that say they need guns for protection are paranoid, who are you afraid of? Who are you protecting yourself from? I live 2 miles from where 4 murders in 4 nights were committed and I don’t have a gun.

An Anti: someone whose misplaced anger overcomes their ability to understand cause and effect.
 
It was a good show.Was good to see she changed her views somewhat and now understands guns are not evil.
 
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