Accurate BB/Pellet Pistol?

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Because Pell Oil is, indeed, a petroleum product, it's not meant for the spring powered airguns.
It will cause detonation, according to the airgun folks.
While it is recommended apparently for the other pump up guns
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Because the compression is much slower in a pump compared to a springer.
 
Thanks alot guys! I am going to clean the bore of my new pistol with 91% rubbing alcohol on cotton patches with the airgun cleaning kit I got. Below the pump arm it looks like there is plenty of lube right now so I think I'll hold of on lubing down there. Thanks for the info on lubes, I think I'll just use pelgun oil to be on the safe side.
 
Suggest you VERY lightly lube the outside "at least that that you can" of the cylinder with White Lithium grease. Will not harm the seals and much, much better than Pell Lube/30 weight non detergent oil.

Did you bother to do any searches on the links provided?
Believe me in the oil industry there is no super duper highly secret lubes produced in the far reaches of the universe by Elves keeping their blending secret, shipping small quanities via flying saucers undetected by man.
 
jcwit said:
Suggest you VERY lightly lube the outside "at least that that you can" of the cylinder with White Lithium grease. Will not harm the seals and much, much better than Pell Lube/30 weight non detergent oil.

Did you bother to do any searches on the links provided?
Believe me in the oil industry there is no super duper highly secret lubes produced in the far reaches of the universe by Elves keeping their blending secret, shipping small quanities via flying saucers undetected by man.
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Yes I read all the links! Very good info. I'm not sure where to find 30w non detergeant oil though... will it say on the bottle?

Thanks so much for your help!!
 
Believe me in the oil industry there is no super duper highly secret lubes produced in the far reaches of the universe by Elves keeping their blending secret, shipping small quanities via flying saucers undetected by man.
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There's a reason for the term "snake oil." Still no reason to NOT buy Pellgun Oil if you have nothing else suitable. It does cost 100x more per oz than it should, but you're paying for a small applicator/container that drops into the same box with your pellets or CO2 containers that will probably last longer than your ability find it. :)

That last sentiment can also apply to my can of lithium grease, which I have no idea where it is. Only in this case I'm out more than a few bucks, lol. Had that can for 10 years and used maybe one spoonful. But if it IS better for a pneumatic, I might have to start digging around for it.
 
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Usually can find Non Detergent oil at an auto parts store in qt, bottles, yes it will be lables as such.

Another option is air compressor oil, the stuff used in the pump, available at WalMart.

Gloob, you have problems with things escaping from you also, I usually blame my wife, normally doesn't work out for the best as she controls the cooking & meals. LOL
 
Awesome! I'm really excited to shoot my new gun. I need to first make sure he's really cleaned before doing so!
 
Don't go crazy cleaning Airguns. They are not like firearms that we clean after every use. Mine get an exterior wipe down of the metal after use and that's it unless accuracy starts to suffer. No need to patch the barrel constantly and may do more harm than good.

No worries dry firing a single stroke or any stroke pneumatic. NEVER dry fire a spring piston gun.

Your gonna love your indoor in home shooting range and the accuracy strive is addictive. Enjoy.

Chris
 
Thanks Chris!

Funny thing, I was listening in the car a couple hours ago to a rerun of Tom Gresham's Gun Talk radio program, and they talked about using air guns for indoor training. That's exactly why I bought this gun!! What a coincidence eh?

I was just looking through the manual of my Daisy 747, and sure enough they say to use 20 (twenty) weight non-detergeant oil to lube the gun. I think that answers the question as to what lube to use!

I won't overclean the gun, just make sure it's clean before shooting it for the first time and will follow the manual on how to clean and do things like adjust the pump arm after every 1000 shots etc.

I've got to say, learning about air guns is really fun and cool. It's a whole microcosm of the shooting sports.
 
Read the Manual

I just received a Beeman P17 - also a single pump pneumatic. The recommendation for lube is white lithium grease. The manual for the P17 warns against the use of regular firearms cleaners as they can cause dieseling and damage the seals.
I expect that the same applies to the 747.
Pete
 
Cool gill, I doubt any gun of any kind would know the difference between 20 wt. or 30 wt. non detergent oil. LOL

As far as small bottles, I get so many for eye drops and other meds, I just fill one of those with whatever is required ai the time.
 
Just got my Beeman HW70 out of a few years storage last night and lubed it up and shot it 20/30 times. Forgot how accurate it really was, shot one 3/8 group of 10 with it which my 70+ year old eyes is pretty good. Must say I now have to use a rest also as I have acquired shaky arms & hands.

But hey, I'm still having FUN!
 
Coodill- pellgun oil works, non detergent motor works- or if you want to splurge, go to Mac1airguns and grab a bottle of his "secret sauce" oil which he has especially for pneumatic air guns. I think it's $13 and will last a lifetime.

I've never cleaned the barrel in my 747- just shoot it. It shoots at such low velocities I've never bothered. My target skills are poor enough where I wouldn't notive the difference:)
 
A lot depends on the pellets as to whether the barrel needs to be cleaned or not.

Try using Crossman pellets and see how black/grey your fingers get loading them, this also deposits on the inside of the barrel which leads to the need to clean, or maybe not depending on how much accuracy one wishes.

But then this is a non issue when using H & N or RWS pellets.
 
jcwit- I thought the coating on the crosman was a corrosion preventive? I'm not saying that one shouldn't clean, just that I haven't. If I were serious about it, I'd probably look more into things like that. 'm just a meathead who likes plinking:)
 
Thanks guys!

Well it says in the manual "this gun has a special coating that must be cleaned off before shooting" so I need to get the packing grease out of it (especially the bore) before shooting. I'm going to use my airgun cleaning kit with cotton patches and 91% rubbing alcohol to do the job.
 
If you haven't cleaned it yet, throw out that cleaning kit and just use some fishing line to pull some patches through there. If you use the cleaning kit be very, very, very careful with it, as airgun barrels tend to be softer than firearms barrels and easier to damage and affect accuracy. No need to use anything but a patch with a fishing line to pull it through.
 
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If you haven't cleaned it yet, throw out that cleaning kit and just use some fishing line to pull some patches through there. If you use the cleaning kit be very, very, very careful with it, as airgun barrels tend to be softer than firearms barrels and easier to damage and affect accuracy. No need to use anything but a patch with a fishing line to pull it through.
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Thanks for the tip. I used the cleaning kit, seemed to go okay. I just used the .177 pieces and cotton patches w/ 91% rubbing alcohol. Seemed to get everything clean.

I shot the gun, only 5 yards because I was worried it might be off and hit the wall or something LOL! Here is the group of about 15 pellets, with the gun and tin of RWS Meisterkugel 7 grainers:

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The gun seems to be doing great. I played with the adjustable trigger, and set it to about 75% open which gave a nice light pull. Functioning seems excellent, the bolt is a little stiff but I've heard it smooths out with time. As I kept shooting, I started to feel a bit of gritiness when working the pump arm. It seems the gun is breaking in; I wiped out the "pump channel" with a rag and there was some gritty stuff, it smoothed out fine after that.

All in all, I'm very happy with this purchase. I am by no means experience at air gun shooting, it's mostly new to me but I'm really excited to learn and feel I'm off to a great start! Thanks all! :D
 
Yes, yes I am! What do you all recommend as far as what pellets to start with for accuracy? I'd like to get a few different kinds to try out but am not sure where to start. Also, concerning o-rings, when will I need to replace those?
 
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