An unsettling experience my friend had recently

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Warp:

First of all, I didn't say criminals are stupid, I said the average street criminal is not good at deferred gratification. Not the same thing.

Secondly, after previously posting that I was wrong about the points I said would make a house less attractive, you now cite all the same things I cited as, guess what, making a house less attractive.

Then, after writing that criminals don't want to be seen, you say people who are home are more likely to leave their doors unlocked. Well, if they're home, won't they see the BG? (And for the record, while I understand that in places like rural Wyoming people may leave their doors unlocked, here in Los Angeles County I can't imagine anyone doing that, except maybe while taking their trash cans to the curb or something.)

I said that burglars of empty homes don't want to be seen.

Not all home invaders are burglars of empty homes.
 
OLD LADY, NEW SHOOTER - " ... (And for the record, while I understand that in places like rural Wyoming people may leave their doors unlocked, here in Los Angeles County I can't imagine anyone doing that, except maybe while taking their trash cans to the curb or something.) "

I lived in Los Angeles for 36 years and I can assure you some people there leave their doors and window unlocked, and their cars unlocked both at home and when out in public. These are the "living-in-denial" men and women. "Ahhhh, it can't happen to me."

I had a friend who lived in an upscale neighborhood along with his wife, who never locked his doors or windows. He told me that if someone wanted to come in, they'd get through a locked door anyway. Besides, he said he wasn't worried about losing stuff. It was all insured. I've known others like that.

There are lots of bliss ninnies out there. And some become victims in their own homes because they do not lock doors and windows.

For example, Richard Ramirez the Night Stalker of Los Angeles, tortured and murdered 14 people, most in their own homes. He usually went in through an unlocked door, an unlocked window, or once though an open garage door.

Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker.

http://www.biography.com/people/richard-ramirez-12385163

Check it out. Fortunately, he died in 2013.

L.W.
 
Not all home invaders are burglars of empty homes.
By the generally accepted definition of "home invader", NONE of them are burglars of empty homes. The most commonly accepted meaning for "home invasion" involves intentionally breaking into an occupied dwelling with the intent to commit a violent crime against the occupants.
I doubt the average street criminal...
You underestimate. Not all criminals are dumb, not by a long shot.
Not "all criminals" are "average street criminals" and therefore the fact that not all criminals are dumb is not in the least contradictory of a comment about the intellect of the average street criminal.

While there are certainly some very smart criminals, on average they're not very smart.

It is true that some criminals are willing to break into occupied homes (or do so by mistake). But in the U.S. most break-ins (about 3/4 of them) take place while the occupants are out.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf
 
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Leanwolf:
With all due respect, your experience is not current and neither is Richard Ramirez' serial murder spree. When I was a child there were people here who didn't lock their houses. Today, at least in my neighborhood, I don't know a single person who doesn't lock their house with deadbolts, and many also have alarm systems and/or locked fences around their property.
 
By the generally accepted definition of "home invader", NONE of them are burglars of empty homes. The most commonly accepted meaning for "home invasion" involves intentionally breaking into an occupied dwelling with the intent to commit a violent crime against the occupants.Not "all criminals" are "average street criminals" and therefore the fact that not all criminals are dumb is not in the least contradictory of a comment about the intellect of the average street criminal.

While there are certainly some very smart criminals, on average they're not very smart.

It is true that some criminals are willing to break into occupied homes (or do so by mistake). But in the U.S. most break-ins (about 3/4 of them) take place while the occupants are out.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vdhb.pdf

Not all average street criminals are dumb, or lazy.

Preparing for a criminal with the expectation that they are dumb and/or lazy is not recommended.


I didn't realize Richard Ramirez raped and murdered victims (at least) as young as 9 years old.
 
...all average...
This is a meaningless juxtaposition of terms.

Average is a concept that talks about statistical likelihood. It takes a wide range of data and boils it down to a single characterization that represents the group but does not even attempt to describe the range of the data or the outliers in the data set.

The average street criminal is not smart. In fact, the average criminal has an IQ about 8 points below the average IQ of the overall population.

All street criminals are not dumb. Some are smart. The fact that the average criminal is below average intelligence does not constrain ALL criminals to be dumb.

One should not expect all criminals to be dumb, but it's reasonable to expect the average criminal to be dumb since that is the actual state of affairs.

When planning, one decides what they are reasonably likely to encounter and what they can reasonably plan for and then works toward that goal. For example, I have a safe that will defeat the average criminal but that can be defeated by a truly adept criminal. Not because I believe that there are no truly adept criminals but because there's only so much I can plan for. So I looked at what I'm likely to be up against statistically speaking, and what I can afford and made my decision accordingly.
 
We as people can plan something's. One being the weapons you can carry. Me, a Glock 19 4th Gen, plus a spare mag, Glock 17 with 17 extra rounds.

I think the 911 call, and back to the original start point? Good thinking.

I have a 2016 Jeep Cherokee, all done up with my Son's Security Company's art work. No offers to clean Windows, no begging signs.

My Wife and I go out every two weeks, for Supper with a couple of friends, my Buddy drives, he does not drink. I have one glass of red Wine.

And we chat for at least an hour!

I watch all activity's, always! Sixteen rounds of 147g Ranger T, ready to go, is kind of nice, being sober, and alert is important.
 
Everybody missing one point. He was not alone!!! His wife was next to him.
Great decision was made by smart man.
 
Now into five pages with nothing new for a while, and a bit of wandering, this one has run its course.
 
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