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TC Campbell

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Maybe some of you Dealers can help i just purchased a Rossi R92 ss in 44 mag they shipped it too the closest FF L Dealer to my residence but cannot pick it up until they call me why is that are they putting a tracking devise in the weapon somewhere whats the deal does someone know??
 
That sounds odd. My FFL has never called me, I either call them or check the tracking. If it's there, I pick it up the next day or so.
 
Did the seller tell you to wait until you hear from the dealer or the dealer that received it told you to wait? Could be since the receiving dealer has to log it in before they can do your 4473, they request you don't show up as soon as the tracking info shows it got delivered.
 
The FFL doesn't want people coming in to pick up guns that they know have been delivered to their FFL thanks to tracking emails, but that the FFL hasn't had a chance yet to log into their books. Give them a break, for crying out loud -- they can't transfer the gun to you until they've done their ATF-required paperwork. There's nothing nefarious going on.
 
It's because the receiving FFL needs to acquire the firearm before it's ready to dispose it to you. This takes time. IIRC, they have 24 hours to acquire it from the time it gets to their place of business.

It happens frequently where I work. A person gets a tracking email that shows the gun is in our shop. They show up at the shop an hour later expecting to be able to take the firearm home. Then they get mad when we tell them it isn't ready for them to pick up yet.

Most people are clueless about the amount of paperwork that has to be done before they can take their gun home.
 
TC Campbell said:
whats the deal does someone know?
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Is it a small shop?
Maybe "their guy" who logs stuff in is out for personal reasons.
Could be that, despite the tracking showing the item at a given location, it might only just be on the truck en route. Really hard to transfer a firearm that's still on the truck.

All kinds of reasons, and usually quite mundane and not at all nefarious.
 
wiscoaster said:
The FFL doesn't want people coming in to pick up guns that they know have been delivered to their FFL thanks to tracking emails, but that the FFL hasn't had a chance yet to log into their books. Give them a break, for crying out loud -- they can't transfer the gun to you until they've done their ATF-required paperwork. There's nothing nefarious going on.
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My intent for answers were not to ruffle feathers just lookin for some answers
 
While I haven´t had a firearm transferred in a number of years since getting my C&R license, the FFL I did use for transfers once upon a time would call within an hour or two of getting the gun. Their routine was the FEDEX or UPS guy stopped by, they received and signed for everything, accounted for it, and started contacting customers after that was done. I suppose on a very busy day it may would be several hours after the truck came. I remember once I called them. They said they were literally making the calls and I was on the list and about to get a call from them.

But yes, I could see during peak traffic, someone is out, or a store that does a high volume of transfers may could have a day or even two of turnaround. Some FFLs get a significant amount of transfer business, doing over a dozen a day on average. That´s almost enough to cover all overhead costs just through transfers. Depending on location, going rates for shop rent and utilities, and going rates for transfer fees... of course.
 
The place I do my transfers with does a lot of them and calls me as soon as it shows up. At $25 a pop and exended hours of operation, it works out great for me to go there from work in the morning. Nothing to complain about, unlike a couple of previous guys I've used who either screwed up, or didn't have enough time available to open up more than a couple days a week. And night openings? You'd have thought I asked him to transfer me a gun at 3am, not 730 PM.
 
I always give the local shop a day or two to process the arm and file in the paperwork.

Impatient customers are the bane of these guy’s lives and I feel bad for the people they have to deal,with on that basis daily.
 
I recently bought a mauser reciever, had it sent to my ffl but didn't hear from him, he usually calls when my items are ready. So I xalled him after a couple of days, the seller didn't sent his photo ID, which delayed my transfer because my item couldn't be logged in to his inventory without previous owner info. I contacted seller who said that he'd send the info right out, but took him 5 days just to send the information, 5 more days in snail mail. Good thing I wasn't in a hurry to get it.
 
My local FFL calls me when They receive anything for me. I always call them to let them know I had ordered something and to expect it. They also know me and that I only do so for good deal used guns or very hard to get ones he couldn't get for me himself.
 
#1 I'd loosen the tinfoil hat a notch or two, it's gotta be uncomfortable being that tight...
#2 The FFLs don't need to install the tracking devises now-a-days...they're pre-installed at the factory ;).
 
My FFL has always called or emailed me to temp me the gun had arrived. That not only makes sense because I can’t pick it up until the FFL a has it. It is also good customer service. I don’t want to stop in and find that the gun is not there yet, and I don’t want to have to keep calling. As for the OP’s question:
are they putting a tracking devise in the weapon somewhere
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I am simply miffed. A tracking device? C’mon.
 
TC Campbell said:
Maybe some of you Dealers can help i just purchased a Rossi R92 ss in 44 mag they shipped it too the closest FF L Dealer to my residence
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Did you contact the dealer prior to shipment or did they just receive a gun?
 
Prior to 2020 I used to show up about an hour after my gun had arrived at my FFL to pick it up. They normally just had a few transfers to do that day so it was easy to grab my gun and do their own paperwork wile I was filling out the form 4473.

Now, they get in dozens of transfers a day and they've asked me to wait until they've had time to sort through the shipments and log them in their books. Yeah, it sucks when I want to get my gun and head to the range but I like this gun shop and want them to stay around so I try to patiently wait.
 
TC Campbell said:
Maybe some of you Dealers can help i just purchased a Rossi R92 ss in 44 mag they shipped it too the closest FF L Dealer to my residence but cannot pick it up until they call me why is that are they putting a tracking devise in the weapon somewhere whats the deal does someone know??
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The only currently in use tracking devices I am aware of are being used in the COVID Vaccines. :)

Seriously, there are no tracking devices.

Gun arrives at shop and shop signs for the gun. Once I have the gun in my possession I log the gun in my firearms log book. I reflect where the gun came from and all pertinent data. Once that is done, a quick and painless process I call you and tell you your gun is in. At this point federal, local and state laws apply. Here in Ohio for example you come in, complete a standard form 4473 produce identification and I call in your background check. Assuming things go fine you are out of my shop with your gun in 15 min give or take. Some busy shops may want a day or two to log the gun in. Nobody is placing any tracking device on or in your gun. That is pure nonsense. Been some years since my wife and I sold our gun shop but what I covered is pretty much how things flow. Again, don't take nonsense as gospel.

Ron
 
1. "They shipped it to the closest FFL dealer to my residence".:what: Why on earth did they do that?o_O It's YOUR responsibility to find a dealer willing to receive your firearm. Letting the seller pick one means you might be paying an exorbitant transfer fee and negating the bargain price on that gun.
2. Did you contact the dealer prior to purchasing the firearm? If not why not? That's an opportunity to find out some pretty important information like fees, hours of operation, when to expect your transfer to be ready and if he even accepts transfers. Heck, he may be on vacation, sick, or like many FFL's holds another job.
3. He runs a business. He won't earn a nickel until you pay him for the transfer. Thats his motivation to contact you.
4. How does he contact you? Who knows. Not every online seller includes buyer information. I'm sitting on a used AR that arrived yesterday from a pawn shop I've never heard of. No buyer info inside. I've searched every email received and sent for the last two months and no one has told me they have this brand inbound.......that's annoying.:cuss:
5. ATF regulation require the dealer to record the aquisition into his bound book no later than close of business the next day. That doesn't mean he has to call you five minutes after UPS sends you tracking info or delivery confirmation.
6. Tracking info..........no dealer really needs you to give him tracking info. I know the package has arrived when I'm holding it in my hands. Just because tracking shows as "delivered" doesn't mean it's actually delivered, it just means the driver entered that info into his scanner......he can do that while parked and eating lunch. Even if tracking shows who signed for the package Tom? Yes. When a USPS/UPS/FedEx drop deliveries, the receiver signs ONCE for all packages. It then shows twenty packages as "delivered"......but the driver only dropped off nineteen boxes. At the end of his route or even the next day, he finds that orphan in his truck and brings it back. This happens regularly, especially in December.
7. If you haven't done so, call that dealer, introduce yourself, tell him what is inbound.
 
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